Vana'diel Bestiary: Ash Dragon  

Found in:Ifrit's Cauldron
Found at Location:F - 8
Grants Title:Dragon Asher
  • Notorious Monster
  • Aggro
  • Not Linking
  • Detects by Low HP
  • Based on Dark
  • Weak against Light
Updated: Fri Dec 28 16:26:12 2007

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Ash Dragon fight strategy
# Jul 01 2007 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
Ive recently come back to FFXI since I was hacked, I started my friends 75NIN, problem was that the equipment isn't the greatest, anyway...

My linkshell has been fooling around in Ifrit's Cauldron lately and they decided they didn't want this NM alive anymore.

Attempt one: We got to the camp with me, 75nin/pld, a 75rdm/whm, 75brd/whm, 75drk/nin.

Cleared the area and the Bard pulled, I began to build hate using damage.
The Dark knight was the leader of our HNMLS and just happened to have insanely godly equipment and next to my sh*tty gear we were duo tanking. It was going well, at about 50% I took a double attack then breath and died, at this time we were sleeping 2 bomb aggros, they raised me and we held it till weakened was gone, then continued to attack. With four members this ted playing mywas a very long fight, unfortunately at 40% HP I was killed once again, and we held it again. When I was raised he used body slam and hit nearly everyone and we wiped.

With no mistakes he is very possible with 4 or even less people, although more would greatly help the bomb aggro problem.

Attempt two: This time we had the same set-up with the addition of a 75blm/whm.

Began fight same as last time(remember to bring tons of food as he dispels it very often but it's nearly a nessesity to be using it at all times for maximum damage potential) we got him to about 80% in 5 minutes this time, and he killed me with breath, this time the DRK was unable to hold him solo because of a tiny mistake and everyone except one person died, this person raised the DRK and then died. The DRK then, weakened, kited the Ash dragon around a lava pond for nearly 10 minutes while everyone got raised... then he died because of a random wyvern aggro... and we eventually wiped once more.

Although we were unable to defeat him this time, we learnt a lot and I hope you can learn using my information.

-Bard and Red mage combination greatly increases chance of survival
-Melee must have blink in some form, as his Body Slam Job ability will deal in excess to 1 000 damage if no shadows absorb damage
-Voidsong removes every buff on everyone within a large range and removes any debuffs currently on the Ash Dragon
-Not a lot of damage is required if you are prepared to fight for a very long period of time
-Not significantly immune to gravity or any other form of magic with the exception of sleep, neither Sleep nor Lullaby will effect this NM, although the bomb aggros are very succeptable to lullaby and will sleep without gaining a resistance for a reasonable length of time
-Be prepared to hold this mob, I highly recommend a secondary shield player or melee with NIN sub job to tank the NM if the main shield is killed, simply raise, and hold it without giving it TP for it's Body Slam ability and let the main shield recover, then resume
-Barfira does greatly reduce the damage dealt from the Flame Breath ability so in order to save MP, and possibly lives, attempt to keep this spell on at all times

Although I haven't yet defeated the Ash dragon...
-Dragon talon(100% of the time)
-Dragon blood
-Dragon scales
-Dragon heart
-Murasame(very low drop rate Great katana)
-And the wonderfully original title: Dragon Asher

Edited, Jul 1st 2007 8:08am by xspyrox

Edited, Jul 1st 2007 8:11am by xspyrox
# Feb 19 2007 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
58 posts
My LS was doing ZM5 last night (I know, that's one of the only reasons anyone sees this monster -_-) and someone wanted to kill it. Everyone in our alliance, of 12, was 65+ with half being 75. Hesitantly, we all decided to give this guy a go.

It was horrendous...

I think we got it down to 90% health, but the puller managed to grab 3 bombs and had to be slept very often, as bombs seem to have a high magic resist (for me at least). The dragon used the Dispelga move twice and literaly a second later, our main NIN dies. Seconds after that our backup PLD/NIN dies. The only thing left for me to do was Escape. So 4/12 survived and took a decent amount of time from missions.

Nevertheless, it was pretty exciting to think we could kill this bastage and get some money out of it. :P
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 29 2007 at 10:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yea well... my friend trioed this bish... funny eh? THF,WHM,BRD i think it was... this is after he got his Mandau
# Aug 20 2006 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
Okay, most of you are idiots. "I ran by doing ZM blah blah blah Sneak Invis no aggro". YOU RAN BY, YOU DID NOT STAY INFRONT OF IT. ITS AGGRO DEPENDS ON THE DAY. I HAD A CHANCE TO PERSONALLY TEST IT MYSELF, WHICH I DID. Here was the result.


# Oct 06 2006 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
985 posts
Actually, you are wrong. Ash Dragon has true sight and true sound AT NIGHT TIME. I like how your post title is "Idiots" when YOU are the one giving out misinformation. Do yourself a favor and don't waste any more time "testing" anything else.
# Oct 31 2006 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
213 posts
Garuda's right.... my LS did ZM5 run. ran past it first time during the day, no true sight or true sound aggro. they finished the run, went back past this as night fell, and got truesight/truesound aggro. so it's obviously a night thing for it. gotta love when ppl try to be Vyers, and scream at ppl for being wrong when they cant get their facts straight... and if i get flamed on this....i know vyers saw it...and i can laugh in his nubish face.
# Jul 04 2006 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
330 posts
Avesta is an incredibly good player.
# Mar 20 2007 at 6:46 AM Rating: Excellent
767 posts
lol, yeah, I saw his video.

Very smart of him to think to use a knife that hits for 0, so that it doesnt feed the dragon any TP.
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# Jun 26 2006 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
the drops are crap? dragon talon is worth 4mil on cerberus... easy gil from this too weak *******
Ash Dragon
# Jun 14 2006 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
Went to farm for wyvern skull one day and this guy was there.

Didn't bother to make a big deal about it, as it drops crap anyway, which is why it was probably up.

However, there was only one wyvern up while Ash Dragon was up. No one else was there but me. So does Ash Dragon take like 5-6 wyvern's spawn places when it pops or something?
Ash Dragon
# Jul 05 2006 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
nope there's only one wyvern poping where Ash pops too
# Jun 13 2006 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
Short version of the aggro situation:

Night: True Sight, possibly sound as well (can walk behind)
Day: Sound aggro

Can be killed with 7-8 people in about 50min-1hr with the right strategy. It not a difficult per se, but you have to watch how much TP you give him (I'll leave the rest up to you to figure out).

Incidentally, he's not undead and doesn't aggro on low HPs.

The bombs in question are Decent Challenge to a 75. These are easily killed by 1 or more BLMs w/o risk of Self Destruct.

As for drops, the Dragon Talon (BLM JSE body main synth) is 100%, which may explain any RMT taru LSs hording him. The Murasame seems pretty rare (haven't seen it in 10 or so kills).

Edited, Tue Jun 13 09:08:50 2006
easy ZM5 strat
# Apr 19 2006 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
i hear alot of ppl still get trouble passing this guy on ZM5... easy strat i always use when helping is have a expericned BLM and WHM or w/e go thorugh IC and rest of PT stay at clif edge in jungle. ppl at cliff all trin mobs and succide then the goup that went in IC comes out and tractors and raise ppl up the clif. very minimal EXP loss over a potental diaster for those groups that dont feel confident going all together pas the dragon ( newbs .. j/k) hope this helps some
# Mar 13 2006 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
My LS got bored one day and attempted to kill this dragon. Not wise i warned, but hey! It was a fun exp. loss.... sigh
he has true sight.
# Feb 22 2006 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
he has true sight.

Saw that also doing ZM5.

Yay for Tractor and R3.
RE: he has true sight.
# Apr 03 2006 at 3:01 PM Rating: Default
20 posts
doesn't have true sight, i ran past him sneak/invis at lvl 30 and he didn't give 2 *****.
RE: he has true sight.
# May 12 2006 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
558 posts
You have to run directly in front of his line of sight for him to aggro. that's probably why he didnt aggro you.
# Feb 18 2006 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
he definitely doesn't aggro while in sneak, 8 of us passed the only one of us died cause he ran out of oils and he got blasted so we left him there and later tractored him, we had a laugh he took 3 hits, lol, but we did the rest of the zm successfully, lol what a trip through the Cauldron

Edited, Sat Feb 18 15:37:29 2006
# Feb 16 2006 at 2:31 AM Rating: Decent
My Ls just tried Ash Dragon, and we got ^@#$ed. First bad thing was we had to wait like an hour becuase no one knew how to get there. We had 2 nins but one died becuase of Ash Dragon. So we raise them, then we pulled it. we were doing ok, but then a bomb poped, and thats when it got bad. It used Self-destruct and killed most of us. The mages that lived started rasing but then another bomb poped and killed them. We just werent ready for him. One thing that made me feel a bit better was another LS tried him, but they wiped also lol.
# Feb 08 2006 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
rdm soloing it, kinda bored to look at it XD but yeah nice achievement
Ash Dragon fight
# Jan 18 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
128 posts
Well since nobody has really posted their fight expierence /w this NM I thought I'd post our fight (which didn't go so well ><)

To start I'd say do not underestimate the Ash Dragon. We did and it was our downfall. We attempted to try and pull it back a bit to the zone tunnel - which we soon gave up on b/c it kept drawing the puller in over and over :S.

WS + Abilities I saw it use:

Voidsong: Used this frequently - mages must stand far away. It stripped up to 5 buffs from everyone in the alliance inculeding the WHMS reraise :(

Body Slam: I only saw it use this once, but it did heavy AOE damage to everyone (at least 1k to surrounding melees)

Flame Breath: Heavy fire damage. Undetermined if it was AOE or frontal cone damage. (it was facing the mages when it used it and we were pretty much instantly KOed.

Curse: Typical Black Dragon type WS. Is a real killer combined /w flame breath.

To concluede we found out why this HNM is always up >.>. Maybe one day we'll give it another shot.

Edited, Mon Mar 27 00:21:15 2006
spawn time
# Dec 21 2005 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
21 posts
roughly 72 hr repop
# Dec 15 2005 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
This guy is soloable with 75RDM/NIN.

RE: Solo!
# Jun 10 2006 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
i would like to know how he avoided the 6 or so bombs that pop in that room and didnt get magic agro. seems pretty much impossible and i dont really consider it solo if you have ppl killing adds for you. i watch that movie and did not see one bomb....
RE: Solo!
# Mar 29 2007 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
i dont really consider it solo if you have ppl killing adds for you

Thats about stupid. If you kill a mob by yourself, you have killed it SOLO. If you kill the entire zone by yourself, then you have also solod the zone. Having peeps kep links off of you doesn't discount the fact the he killed the mob SOLO. Don't be a lame jealous fool. You start killing badass mobs solo then you can talk.
RE: Solo!
# Apr 19 2006 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
great video. His gear looks tricked out and im sure maxed merits etc... is that AF2 hat he has on? cant make out the digets for his MP to see his refresh rate.
RE: Solo!
# Aug 01 2006 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
I dont read JP but it looks like he's doing 0DMG with his sword and about 2-20DMG from his Enspell and u never see avesta do a weapon skill either-- which is why the Ash dragon never does a TP move since he's gaining none i guess. So basically he DoT'ed it to death. It looked like at times he got 10-30MP a tick?o.o
RE: Solo!
# Feb 12 2006 at 9:37 PM Rating: Default
Yes, he is soloable by a 75RDM/37NIN, but, not many would stand a chance, even being 75RDM/37NIN, you would need a lot of gear and items that I'm not going to go into :-P

Avesta also solo'd KSNM "Operation Desert Swarm" as blackmage I believe.

RE: Solo!
# Dec 23 2005 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
30 posts
this is impressive. i started rdm about 3 weeks ago to be my main job and this is why i chose to do so.. because of the versatility depending on the situation and sub

Edited, Fri Dec 23 16:38:15 2005
1 K.O.
# Oct 27 2005 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
my party for ZM5 and i were walking past this as another party was fighting it and all of a sudden, all of our hp go to 0. i was stunned for a second trying to figure out what happend. then i read the chat log and i saw that everyone took 1100+ dmg from his fire ws or w/e it was called. I had filters on but i still saw all of our dmg. About 30 min later, its still not dead and my party and i are waiting for them to kill it so we could get raise 3's. Well, we see the nin tank fall, then, it went after the mages. But it didn't move alot or i just didn't see it moving since i was sorta of far away from it. But anyways, the rest of the mages dropped and good thing one blm casted bio2 on it. i think thats what killed it since it was so close to being dead. luckily the whm survived and it took a few mins for her to raise all of her party memebers and then i got raise 3from another whm in their party. MAJOR delay but i have my fire fragment now and i'm happy ^^ only need wind, ice, and earth now.

Edited, Thu Oct 27 23:18:19 2005
ash dragon
# Sep 24 2005 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
I have no doubt that he is TRUE sight or at least aggros sneak and he does "Pull" you in.. if he sees/hears you! I have to say ZM5 isn't hard until you have to get passed this guy >.<!
RE: ash dragon
# Sep 27 2005 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
174 posts
Hellz yeah Zm5 was goin all good until we ran into this guy the worst part was raisin all the dead with those bombs everywhere
Indeed he has true sight and aggros sneak
RE: ash dragon
# Oct 04 2005 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
he has true sight, and i believe true sound as well... but only at night, so sneak/invis during the day and... well, good luck during the night, this guy made me hate zm5... cuz i had to raise everyone -.-
RE: ash dragon
# Oct 18 2005 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
This is no doubts sound aggro too. I had invis on and ran behind it just after it turned. It went straight for me and raped over half the alliance that also were invis only even though they ran behind it.
Note on Ash Dragon:
# Aug 24 2005 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
There's a lot of controversy posted here on Alla and other forums about whether or not this guy has true sight, and if maybe it's at night only. It's also unclear exactly WHAT he aggro's to, since it almost appears to be random. Also, it's speculated that he "blood aggro's", in other words, aggro's to Low HP, similar to what you get from any undead, even though he's not undead.

About the only thing I've seen regarding this beast that IS agreed on is that you can't run away from him if he DOES aggro you ... he "sucks you in". Best advice I've seen on this beast is to hug a wall as far away from him as you can get, and make sure he's facing the other way. It's really not worth dying so close to your goal of completing ZM5.

And, now that I've researched the mobs in Ifrit's Cauldron a bit, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe, just maybe, the reason for all this confusion and seeming randomness is ... Deodorize. Not once in any of the posts advising how to do ZM5 has ANYONE mentioned using Deoderize of any kind. Well guess what, there are at least 3 types of Goblins in Ifrit's that only detect AND aggro by SCENT!! At least, according to the Beastiary. And, it's not just Allakhazam's Beastiary. I'm not sure, but I strongly suspect they got their info directly from SE.

Detect and aggro by Scent (yes, SCENT!)
Goblin Alchemist
Goblin Mercenary
Goblin Shepherd

Edited, Wed Aug 24 17:10:00 2005
RE: Note on Ash Dragon:
# Aug 27 2005 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
217 posts
I've led alot of groups through ZM5 and honestly doesn't matter what he aggros to best to put both sneak/invis up (though been alittle bit since I've been there) but I think there are also bats in that room but I think he is both. I can tell you this guy is 1. annoying and 2. loses his True sight with the day and gains it at night. I've tried to run past him at night and get aggro during the day your good.

Now fighting this thing is annoying. This thing has a crazy AoE Dispelling move that removed just about every buff I had on me... I figured he would be like the dragons from Dynamis runs only bad things they do is that AoE jump move and breaths but no he has a AoE dispeling and I believe a AoE cursing move don't remember exactly but I sure as hell know he curses you.
RE: Note on Ash Dragon:
# Aug 24 2005 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
No, they detect and aggro by sight, they track you by scent, don't always believe alla, go test it for yourself if you must, but trust me, those goblins are sight.

As for ash dragon, He's sight for sure, he has a very narrow field of vision like most of the NM dragons do, and He does have true sight, go play with him too if you don't believe me.
RE: Note on Ash Dragon:
# Sep 14 2005 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
No he is not true sight I stood in his face with Sneak+Invis up w/o aggro Not sure if its sight or sound though...
RE: Note on Ash Dragon:
# Sep 19 2005 at 2:39 AM Rating: Good
11,630 posts
And my ZM5 run we ran behind it with sneak and invis up but he turned (unluckily) and started to feed on the 64(?) SAM.

He does have true sight. I didn't pay 100% attention to time, I know we started at 17:00 ingame time, but don't know if we didn't pass it until 18:00 and if it is by then he would gain true sight.

Of course I wasn't the SAM so he *could* have been running without sneak and getting aggro.

The only thing safe to do is keep both up and run behind it, and as I said, not even that seem to be 100% safe.
# Aug 09 2005 at 4:03 AM Rating: Decent
2,684 posts
Just been reading the other posts about agro and being drawn in etc...

My experiance, During ZM5

I had not looked up the dragon and was told and assumed it was just True Sight.
So I had Invis up and ran past him when he had his back turned, as did 12 other people.

So from this we can assume he dosent agro sound at least.
You can almost guarentee him to be true sight, and will draw in when you are just within visual range so u must be careful not to run to close before he has his back turned.



# Jul 22 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
18 posts
Was in mid ZM-5 trying to run behind him sneaked and, invisd. He turned around and beat me to a pulp in one hit.
RE: sux
# Aug 03 2005 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
83 posts
I just did zm5. Had sneak and vis on. Did NOT aggro. Went up to it and slapped it.
respawn time
# Jul 18 2005 at 3:45 PM Rating: Default
ne1 knows about the respawn time?
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