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Alchemy is used to synthesize these bundles of fiber. Glass fiber shows remarkable heat resistance.

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# Aug 01 2008 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
you can make a small amount of gil if you desynth masks... i just got 1 stack with 2 masks so 2k for 2 masks and 1k for stack crystals = 3k-7k= 4k profit

but i have also lost 3-4 masks in a row
De-synth of Goblin/Moblin/Bugbear masks
# May 17 2006 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
Whenever I have tried to de-synth any of the masks I get either failure (50% of the time) 4 fibers or 8 fibers. I've never got 2 but I have seen people gain 2 from them.

I used this as a cheap way of getting a load of fibers for Artificial lenses and Prism Powders.

Drop rate isn't too good on masks depending on area but I get enough to make it worthwhile ^^
another source
# Apr 12 2006 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
got three with lightning crystal + tonberry latnern
Glass fiber desynth
# Mar 13 2006 at 6:31 PM Rating: Default
I found the best results for:

Lightning crystal+Goblin mask.

I did the quest in Selbina Donate to Recycling
got the Waste Basket, I removed all my Furnishings except the Wastebasket, I equiped a Thunder Staff
(Don't know if the Staff makes a difference or not) out of 10 tries I failed 2 time only lost the Goblin Mask 1 time every other try I got HQ#3 (8 Loops)
I will continue to log my results to see if this trend holds true. And by the way Alchemy skill is at lvl 26.

Edited, Mon Mar 13 17:34:58 2006
# Jan 08 2006 at 3:11 PM Rating: Default
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Alchemy (21)
Yield: 2 (Max: 8)
Crystal: Lightning
Goblin Mask x1

The cap is not 21. My alchamy is lvl 18 and I was able to hq these up to 6.
RE: Nope.
# Jan 17 2006 at 11:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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17,302 posts
Just thought you'd like to know, you can HQ and be under a synth cap. Plus, I'm pretty sure that's a desynth, and with that, comes the fact that desynth recipes fall under a different set of equations than normal synths.

You can HQ desynths a lot more frequently, and further under the cap, than you can synths. You can also fail a lot more frequently with desynths than with synths.

So, just cause you HQ'd something below it's cap doesn't mean the cap is wrong.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Desynth Records
# Oct 18 2005 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
56 posts
Ive been recording my results while desynthing these with the lightning + gob/mob mask and so far the HQs and Fails have evened out to about 2 glass fibers per synth on average. I still have alot more I'm going to record but what I have so far is on this quick page I threw together

Edited, Tue Oct 18 19:24:40 2005
Best time to De-Synth
# Sep 26 2005 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
126 posts
In my experience the biggest effect on the chance to de-synth is the moon phase- I think the new moon has the greatest chance of success, while with a full moon I couldn't de-synth these suckers even with 56 Alchemy. I did get .2 in skillups of these back when I was only 16 or so alchemy, so it's possible- but it took me almost 30 synth attempts to get them, so this is not a good way to skillup. Good luck to everyone seeking to make money off these!
best day to desynth (?)
# Jul 12 2005 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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there seems to be a lot of confusion over how to get successful desynths from this recipe. i'm as confused as anyone else, but i'm trying to figure it out in a semi-scientific way. here are my early results:

Lightningday: terrible! no matter what time of day, or what direction i face, i break about 90% of my attempts at any time of day. i used to try this a LOT while i was leveling up around 20 and i didn't know the difference from normal synthesis. i've tried again a few times recently, and i can say with some certainty, lightningday = bad.

Watersday: amazing! out of 9 masks, i broke 2, and i had about 6 crystal breaks without losing the mask. i gained 26 carbon fibers. most of my synths were HQ1 or HQ2. i was facing NORTHWEST (fire) for all of them, and the majority of my breaks were after 6:00 game time.

so, this suggests to me that either watersday is good, or day-beats-direction is good, or early morning is good, or some combination thereof. i will post more results as i get them, and would love to hear others' results as well!
RE: best day to desynth (?)
# Jul 19 2005 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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i'm still trying, and i'm still not finding any real pattern. part of the problem is that these masks are not available in enough abundance to establish a pattern. it could be that there isn't a pattern anyway! but, for what it's worth, here are my current thoughts:

Lightningday and Lightsday are no good for this desynth. Avoid them. All other days seem to me to be neutral. Early on, I had a lot of success on Watersday, but now I can't confirm that.

Direction to face: Seems to be SW, to go with the strength of the crystal. I'm level 41 alchemy, 20 levels above cap for this recipe.

When following these basic ideas, I *usually* end up with 1 or 2 stacks of fibers from 6 or 8 masks. Of course, sometimes I can end up with nothing, and sometimes it could be a little more.
RE: best day to desynth (?)
# Oct 25 2005 at 2:23 AM Rating: Decent
132 posts
I have to disagree with the Lightsday thing, that's one the the best days to synth for me. Lighteningsday is obviously the worst I think we can confirm that and also SW is the worst direction to face. West and NW seem to work well. out of five masks the first 2 failed facing SW then the next 3 passed facing west on lightsday. Watersday is okay but I find it to be the same as every other day.
Hate This F***er
# May 24 2005 at 2:00 AM Rating: Good
I never Use This To Skill Up. Ninja ToOls to 28. Then I need A Lens and Which is Glass Fiber 2X + Fire. So I stared to De Syn These. I have MOG Enhancement De Syn.

This IS SOB#1 Crafting.
#1- Fail
#2- Fail
#3- Fail
#4- HQ 3 = 8X WTF I am Skill 28, Did it On Ice day.
#5- Fail (Got Greedy)
#6- HQ2 = 6X

Took Break and Then on Ice Day Tried. 4 in a row failed. Then 1 hr later. 4X HQ 1 and 2 in a Row. WTF is Wrong With SE.
# Mar 01 2005 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
De-synth is NOT always HQ. I'm lvl 53 Alchemy and have de-synthed goblin masks and received only 2 (the normal de-synth).
It is more common to get HQs with these than with regular synths for some reason but de-synths do not ALWAYS HQ.
# Jan 14 2005 at 12:30 AM Rating: Decent
hey i just want to know if this is normal.. i am only a level 22 alchemy and i always get hq for lightning crystal + goblin mask
RE: something
# Mar 01 2005 at 7:05 AM Rating: Default
De-synthesis is always HQ...
RE: something
# Aug 07 2005 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
RE: something
# Feb 28 2005 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
634 posts
my guess is that you were doing this synth either on Darksday or Lightningsday, when (respectively) the HQ chance was higher, or the crystal was strong. Otherwise you should not be getting many HQ results at your level.
RE: something
# Jul 10 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
40 posts
Desynthing has different guidelines for creating HQ results, though I have yet to fathom them. However, I have not yet noticed a correlation between element day and the chance for HQ on desynthesis, and I have done A LOT of desynthing. I have noticed that the time of day, oddly, has some connection between desynthing and success.
Incorrect recipie
# Nov 09 2004 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
The tonberry lantern to glass fiber recipie still needs to be changed. And moblin/bugbear mask desynth is NOT leathercraft. It's alchemy. Just to... restate that.
Alchemy, not leather
# Nov 04 2004 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
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okay, im pretty sure the moblin mask recipe is for ALCHEMY, not leathercraft. cant confirm, but since 1) this is the same recipe as you'd use for goblin masks and 2) my leather level is 0, im assuming. it should cap around the same level as gob mask desynths, too, because i was desynthing both a few levels below goblin masks' cap and got similar results for it. hope this helps anyone who was wondering. ^^;
RE: Alchemy, not leather
# Nov 05 2004 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
yah. it's alchemy
RE: Alchemy, not leather
# Nov 05 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
This is correct
# Nov 04 2004 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
I'm going to write up a new post on the subject of Tonberry Lanterns because I'm afraid there will be more complaints from people not reading the whole thread.

Alchemy: Tonberry Lantern
There are two (as far as I know) possible applications of these in alchemy (one in smithing) and they are:

Crystal: Lightning
-- 1 x Tonberry Lantern
---- Yields: 3 Loops of Glass Fiber
---- HQ1: 6 Loops of Glass Fiber
---- HQ2: 9 Loops of Glass Fiber
---- HQ3: 12 Loops of Glass Fiber

Crystal: Water
-- 1 x Tonberry Lantern **NOTE** I have not personally confirmed this recipie, but I trust my LS
---- Yields: 3 pots of Olive Oil
**actual HQ quantities unknown, but results are going to be something like:
---- HQ1 More olive oil than 3... :P
---- HQ2 X amount of Slime Oil[EDIT] this and HQ3 may be switched... I'm fairly sure they are. [/EDIT]
---- HQ3 a jar of toad oil

And now,
Smithing: Tonberry Lantern
Now, I'm not so much the smithing nut as I am for alchemy, so I'm not even gonna take a stab at HQ's on this one.

Crystal: Wind
-- 1 x Tonberry Lantern
---- Yields: 1 x Brass sheet
---- HQ1: ****
---- HQ2: ****
---- HQ3: ****

And, to clear up some confusion that may occur on new recipies from expansion drops, i.e. Moblin Mask, Bugbear Mask, here are some recipies (sorry, no skill caps confirmed yet ; ;)

Crystal: Lightning
-- 1 x Moblin Mask
---- Yields: 4 Loops of Glass Fiber
---- HQ1: Glass Fiber x 6
---- HQ2: ****
---- HQ3: ****

Crystal: Lightning
-- 1 x Bugbear Mask
---- Yields: 4 Loops of Glass Fiber
---- HQ1: Glass Fiber x 8 (not 6)
---- HQ2: ****
---- HQ3: ****

And that's all I know ^^ hope this helps.

Edited, Tue Nov 9 12:50:04 2004
Does not work for Alchemey
# Oct 28 2004 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
603 posts
I tried this yesterday, using the Wind crystal and 1 X Tonberry Lantern and it raised my Smithing skill and i got a bronze sheet. Actually, I HQ'd on my first synth for smithing....which was weird. Then I tried 3 more times and I could not synth again. I then looked at smithing and saw that this is a lvl 51 smithing receipe. I have never got this to make any glass fibres.
RE: Does not work for Alchemey
# Nov 04 2004 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
That's because the recipie is wrong, lightning crystal, not wind ^^

It's the best feeling when you HQ3 on this recipie, a stack of fiber for low investment.

Edited, Thu Nov 4 18:32:17 2004
new recipe
# Sep 15 2004 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
a new recipe for this is Lightning crystal + Moblin mask. just made it at Lv18 alchemy and i got .1 skill up from breaking the crystal the first time and 4 fibers the second try. wasnt payin atention but i think it was a HQ animation.
RE: new recipe
# Oct 21 2004 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
78 posts
Bugbear masks can also be done this way... except a normal synth yields 4 and i've HQ'd for 10.

Edited, Thu Oct 21 12:59:41 2004
# May 23 2004 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
there are FOUR different fotmula's rwad the top ppl
# Apr 16 2004 at 8:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok,I tried the Wind Crystal > Tonberry Lanter. A little background information: LVL 19 alchemy and 0 in smithing, well what I got was a bronze sheet. Now i checked it and it has Wind > Lantern as making both Glass Fiber and Bronze sheet, how this can be, I will never know. What I read though was that the Bronze sheet was a lvl 52 smith skill with that synth recipe. Can anyone give me some feedback on this please.
RE: Weird
# May 15 2004 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
First off all, using the Goblin Mask combo will make a yield of 4, not 2. Secondly, there's either an additional skill required or the level needed is higher than 21. My alchemy is 21 and i was only able to craft successfully 4/9 times.
RE: Weird
# Jul 02 2004 at 11:04 PM Rating: Good
726 posts
First off all, using the Goblin Mask combo will make a yield of 4, not 2. Secondly, there's either an additional skill required or the level needed is higher than 21. My alchemy is 21 and i was only able to craft successfully 4/9 times.

Lightning crystal + goblin mask is desynthesis. It works quite differently to synthesis - there is a lower chance of normal success than there is of outright failure and HQ success.

Normal yield: 2 glass fiber.
HQ yield: 4, 6 or 8 glass fiber.

High chance of both failure and HQ means desynthesis is a gamble, and it can be very profitable if you get more HQ than failures. You can recognise a HQ craft by the different, flashier crystal animation and higher/better yield.
RE: Weird
# Jun 09 2004 at 1:10 AM Rating: Decent
28 posts
normal yield is 2 for goblin mask>lightning combo ....but i've HQ, it sometimes creating 4 and 6

Edited, Wed Jun 9 02:15:05 2004
RE: Weird
# Jun 29 2004 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
2,214 posts
Fear de-synth. I am 22 and I still fail more often then I succeed. If it wasn't for the fact that I am good at setting up EX results I would be taking MASSIVE hits for this. Still, I run into days that I break even.

De-synth will fail. There is nothing to prevent this. There seems to be some hidden success % programmed in that you can work around. Best I have been able to do so close to the lvl is cut down on the loss of masks, and by getting 4-8 more often then I get 2. I am not over 50 crafts on this (I use it for the next stage... Was stupid and tried doing Rods... but they don't sell well, and they have a high negative return value unless you farm EVERYTHING you need). I now make Artifical lenses, and and I am holding on to those till I am high enough to make them into prism powder for pratcially free:).
RE: Weird
# May 10 2004 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
I've posted this elsewhere.... the levels and guilds they give this tonberry item is totally arbitrary.. it's desynthesis. Doesn't have a thing to do with blacksmithing and you aren't gonna gain a level. really it's a craft level 0 item.
RE: Weird
# Apr 19 2004 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
Ya, you need to use a lightning Cyrstal to make glass fiber from a Toberry Lanter. Am still hopeing that someone can explain how I can't make glass fiber form a goblin Mask
RE: Weird
# May 10 2004 at 3:27 PM Rating: Default
no, it's actually that you get random items. Being desynthisis you can get either glass fiber or brass sheet or something else... just like if you use water u can get slime oil, toad oil, or olive oil...
RE: Weird
# Nov 04 2004 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
no, actually you're very very wrong. -_- Desynth is NOT random items, the example you give with Water + Tonberry lantern is supposed to yield 3 olive oils, **BUT** Can be HQ'd for toad oil/slime oil.

Tonberry lantern: Water crystal = olive oil x3; Wind crystal = Brass sheet; Lightning crystal = Glass fiber x3.

Please post when you know what you're talking about.
RE: Weird
# Nov 04 2004 at 6:38 PM Rating: Default

Edited, Thu Nov 4 18:50:48 2004
# Apr 13 2004 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
Am a lvl 22 Alchemist and I don't understand it. I keep trying to do this craft, but it tells me my skill is not high enough. What am I doing wrong? I even tried with image support, still couldn't get it 2 work.

1X Lightning Crystal
1X Golbin Mask

Is that not right?

The only way am able to make Glass Fiber is by taking one Lightning Crystal and Tonberry Lantern.

Edited, Tue Apr 13 08:32:49 2004
RE: How?
# May 03 2004 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
making them from Lanterns and Masks is Desynthesis anyway.
skill lvl
# Feb 19 2004 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
skill lvl needed to use meteorite and flint stones is 60ish, not 18. 18 is only a rough estimate for gobie masks. at 18 i failed a lot.
# Feb 10 2004 at 6:09 PM Rating: Default
the HQ items varies from either 4,6 or 8 glassfiber loops. base synth is 2, just a fyi
# Feb 07 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
At 24 alchemy, if you synth these on lightningsday with goblin masks, its far cheaper than buying the glass fiber. I spent around 13k on goblin mask (500 each) and Lightning Crystals (1000 per stack), and got 58 glass fibers out of them (almost 5 stacks, about 20k worth).

These prices are according to Midgardsormr though.
Loop amounts?
# Feb 05 2004 at 6:19 PM Rating: Default
I just got 8 loops from a Gob mask with a skill of 13. Is this common, or am I just lucky?
FlintStone is 55-60
# Feb 03 2004 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
The Flint Stone recipe is level 55-60. I'm Alchemy 61 ATM and it has finally stopped being given by the 'B' NPC at the guild.

You CAN level up from breaking down items. I've recieved skill-ups from Goblim Helms and Mail for BSmithing materials, and from breaking down Silver Hairpins/Rings into Silver ingots for Gsmithing. It IS rare and it'll be just about impossible to determine the actuall skill up level range, but it D O E S happen.

Stop the madness. Just accept it. ;oP
# Feb 02 2004 at 12:51 PM Rating: Default
Cancel that, I just got another skill-up from goblin mask. Crafted at 9pm, Lightningday, got 0.1 to get me to lv 21 alchemy.
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