I have 2 Avengers, Akidos, and Cross Counters so even when I don't turn on Counterstance I'm still countering roughly 1 attack for every 6-7 that land while when I do activate it I counter around 85%.....it really comes in handy when I pull off a 600-700+ Raging fists on a IT mob.
welll i was testing this out after buying it for 1.2 mil in luf meadows as 43WAR/NIN. tried it on Death Jackets ( d/challange) i had 2 counters out of 4 bees i killed. so it does work but i would say save your money unless you have a crapload to blow and want some amusment, taht about all they are good for if you are not MNK or /MNK. the damage you get from a counter is the same as if you had a double attack so its nice to see the counter but it isnt good enough to make a diffrence. :( thats too bad
oh ya and also tried this on my 75BLM/RDM and use NO AGI gear on the same mobs as my WAR and no counters at all so based on how counter works its not even worth it to use while farming messing around etc. :( thats too bad hope i could have get some fun out of these.
Me(33war) and my friend (54 Bst) were skilling up in Eld[tab] and the mob was there. We didnt know what it was but we couldnt pull well with it there, so we killed it and it droped the earring. Selling it for 1 Mil now, spliting 500K each. Great Christmas Present! MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Whats The pos of these in Eldieme Necropolis????? i been all over that place god i hate it.. but i have never ever seen one of these... My mnk would love these just got it to 43 today woot^^
Whats The pos of these in Eldieme Necropolis????? i been all over that place god i hate it.. but i have never ever seen one of these... My mnk would love these just got it to 43 today woot^^
Whats The pos of these in Eldieme Necropolis????? i been all over that place god i hate it.. but i have never ever seen one of these... My mnk would love these just got it to 43 today woot^^
me and a thf friend were killing these for 5hrs practically non stop in yhoator, no drop even on darksdayfull moon, so these are really rare (if they still drops in yhoator) and anyway about what u were saying about no counter during pts in valley of sorrows and 20min in rolanberry you cant say they dotn giv counter because chances r +1counter will giv u like 0.0001% to counter as pld/war and even less on IT mobs so there is no real proof that they dont giv counter to non mnk or /mnk but hey i dont have the earring out so idk , Good luck to everyone PS if ihave an error or misspelling dont jump on me just tell me ad ill try to get back and fix it k? ty good night everyone lol
I know you say "PS if ihave an error or misspelling dont jump on me just tell me ad ill try to get back and fix it k", but you have like 350 spelling and grammar errors. Between that and your 1337omgwtforz talk and your complete lack of periods, it took me my whole lunch break to decipher your jarble.
"chances r +1counter will giv u like 0.0001% to counter as pld/war" huh? So you're saying that I would counter one attack out of every ONE MILLION attacks? Where the hell did you come up with these numbers?
In addition to what I said before, I later farmed in the Glacier for about 20 minutes -- fought EP Golems and Elementals. Never countered. As soon as I Outpost Warped, changed my sub to MNK, and came back to the Glacier, I started countering attacks.
I may not have 'definite' proof that PLD/WAR doesn't get counter from Avenger's Earring, I'll grant you that, but take this into consideration: when I wore it for three hours fighting ITs in an exp party, killed TWs for 20 minutes, and also farmed EP like 20 minutes, I never countered once when I didn't sub MNK. If I can't counter "Incredibly Tough" mobs, "Easy Prey" mobs, or even farm "Too Weak To Be Worthwhile" mobs, I can only come to one conclusion: Avenger's Earring doesn't give Counter to jobs that aren't MNK or don't SUB MNK. It may bestow some INCREDIBLY small chance of countering, but I'll believe it when I see it.
I read everyone's statements on how this would actually bestow the Counter ability to those jobs who aren't MNK or don't sub MNK, and I decided to try it out. I forked over 350K and took it out to Rolanberry Fields as 59 PLD/WAR. Killed a variety of mobs for like 20 minutes. Tried Sword/Shield, Sword only, and hand to hand. Never Countered once. This does not give the Counter ability if you don't already have it.
More News: Tried it again last night. Earned 7K exp in the Valley of Sorrows over 2-3 hours time. Fought Velociraptors and Perytons. Equipped an Avenger's Earring to see if it would work for me as PLD/WAR. Forgot to take it off the entire session. Didn't counter a single time.
Ya if you have the ability Counter it adds to it. If you do not it gives you the ability. If it says Enhances like in the 70+ Earring "Enhances: Dual Wield Effect" then you have to have the ability for it to be enhanced. Like the items Magic and Attack Bonus + it gives you those.
Does the Anemone in Yhoater drop this but it is a rare drop like Stroper Chyme or is theyre an actual NM in Eldime?
U'mmm here's a thought. Like other abilities you can only lvl on certain jobs im going to lvl monk a fair bit to get my counter skill up and then go back to lvling nin=lvl 48 right now and see what the stat caps at for it. The abilty will work if u have it lvled from another job I.E shield skill ect. im going to get the earrings, im an inedpendently wealthy alchemist lol and try it both ways and see if they help much lvling thru an area on the same mobs ill post again in a month and let you know!!
im going to lvl monk a fair bit to get my counter skill up
Counter isn't a skill, it's a job trait for Level 10 Monk. You can't level it up, it stays the same whether you're a level 10 Monk or level 40 Monk. The only way to increase counter is through equipment like these earrings.
If you don't have the ability counter these will give it to you. I'm a NIN/BLM I tried these out while farming at a friend's suggestion and bam, I counter.
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between "Counter +1" and "counteratttack +1"? Some pieces of armor are listed one way some the other. Is there a difference?
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Posted:Mar 12 2005 at 12:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Counterattack is a reusable ability i think, and counter is an ability that is always on
the reuseable ability is counterstance not counterattack. counter+1 and counterattack +1 are the same and if im not mistaken SE is changeing all the gear to counter+1 to avoid the mixup. i hope this helps
Another example as proof that these do give non-MNK jobs (not main nor subbed) the counter-attack ability. Myochin Kote (Samurai AF Hands) give the effect of "Enhances effect of Rice Balls". Tonosama/Shogun Rice Ball, when eaten with these Kote, give Double Attack +(either 1 or 8). As I was out questing with a linkshell-mate, as a SAM/RNG, I was infact double attacking. being that the effect of the Kote + Riceballs is +X to DA, these earrings would enable even a DRK/THF to counter attack.
i just bought 2 of those for war55 mnk52 and sam46, im gonna try them for a week and give yal news, but i was using dodge earring, atm i soloed some mobs but didnt counterattacked (with sam/rng) , at a point im even wondering if the +6 evasion of the dodge dont help more cuz counter work with the hit the mobs dont lend, right? i will like it on war/mnk for sure :)
Leveling BACK to 30 in Yhoator yesterday. Besides the selfish children constantly zoning the same train of gobs for fun, there was an Anemone zoned right on top of us. I checked my strat guide because I wasn't sure if it was an NM or not, then saw that it was level 54... someone at the cave entrance laughed and said it was coming back, so I packed up my party and went the opposite direction from whence it came. We don't know quite what happened, but there were many screams and oaths cried as it emerged... when we dared peek around to the cave entrance, the Anemone was dead, and so were about two parties and an AF Paladin, who apparently slew it. When asked through /tell, he said he received a Warm Egg.
It definately gives you counter attack even if you do not sub mnk.
Same thing applies for koneing shields that pld's use. They receive the killer ability on it and it will activate even if they are not subbing bst.
Also notice that some abilities on those shields are buffing beast killer a lv 70 bst skill. It is not possible to get this ability even via sub so it is definitive proof that equipment that give you abilities will give it to you reguardless of if you have the sub or not.
The lv 73 suppomemi earring +dual wield is an exception and will NOT give you dual wield w/o subbing nin.
These earrings WILL let a pld/war counterattack. A pld/war using koneing shield WILL intimidate creatures.
I have +9 counter, and it doesn't impress me enough on IT mobs. It goes of a lot on worthless mobs, if by some reason I don't evade their hits.
+1 is definitely worthless. Certain stats increases are only useful if you are able to concentrate a large amount into it. And counter would be one of those. Unless you can get your hands on the Cross counters, don't bother buying these earrings. You will get more use out of Beetle +1 or Spike earrings.