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Am i enough
# Feb 23 2005 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
53 posts
Will a 47 sam/24 war be able to take this bad boy out?
for sale
# Feb 21 2005 at 8:28 PM Rating: Decent
i'm selling my kotes on valefor sever
give me a /tell
my in game name is Landon
# Feb 20 2005 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
im 47drk do u think i would get any agro at this time if i were to camp these in castle oztroja?
RE: hi
# Apr 04 2005 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
i had gotten mine for 990k even thow last 10 sold for 750k lol ya a 47 anything can kill it i did it as lv47 thf without bloody bolts woth little effert
paying for this thing
# Feb 18 2005 at 12:23 AM Rating: Decent
Hello, I am trying to pay for this thing by teleporting it is slow but slowly working I average about 80k a day teleing. This thing hit 1 million now on valefor. SE help a broke player out.
Finally SE ACTS!
# Feb 17 2005 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
Feb. 14, 2005 19:30 [PST]

Actions Taken Due to Member Agreement Violations

On February 14, over 800 accounts which repeatedly violated the PlayOnline
Member Agreement were permanently banned from PlayOnline.

The users of these accounts would form groups to monopolize the hunting
spots of notorious monsters (NM). They also repeatedly performed harassment and MPK actions against other players.

Grief tactics, including harassment, are listed in the PlayOnline Member
Agreement as violations and are not allowed for any reason. Also,
interfering other players' game play in order to monopolize monsters which spawn in hunting spots is not allowed.

Based on the above, we have taken strict actions against players who have
violated the PlayOnline Member Agreement.

If you become a victim of harrasment, please make a GM Call and report the issue directly to a Game Master.

Your understanding and cooperation will help us provide the best experience possible to our players.

WHAT!!! There you go people for all those greedy [email protected] who want to monopolize items and money and make low lvl jobs miserable for no real damm reason! Somplaint complaint complaint till your voices be heard lmao. About time someone do something about this ridiculous way of playing.

I was right mee deggi is free time to get those gloves! =D
RE: Finally SE ACTS!
# Feb 20 2005 at 4:05 AM Rating: Decent
47 posts
That's cool, knowing there are fewer gilsellers in the world. But the zoo's(blantant gilsellers) and the guy that camps Ochiudo's 24/7 still exist. =/

I'm on the Pandemonium Server, I did notice one person go bye bye though >=)
# Feb 15 2005 at 7:29 PM Rating: Default
I never truly cared about gil sellers and im sorry to bring this up again but DAMM!

Diabolos was a fair price place but since Bavd Laocha and Redgirl step inside Diabolos everything have been nothing but missery. How d o I know they gil sellers?
1. rank
2. armor
3. Auction house sales
4. 24/7 inside Diabolos

Common when you are rnk1 at lvl50 either game challenge(******), slow, or gil seller. This guys have the Ochiudo Kotes over 20 times only in the pass month! and the prices are at 1.3k. On top of that they've goten the Fuma Boots over 20 times too! WTF. I wake up at 3am only to find out that they dont sleep! WTF!I ask if they have a real life job! They say yes. What is it? They laugh! WTF!I complaint about Redgirl, so she got restricted from area only to find out she still camping some other nm! WTF!
Since they came to Diabolos brown belt went from 400k to 800k kotes went from 600k to 1.3k and almost everything have double! WTF and they dont even let you try to get the nms!
I hate gil sellers, they done nothing but sell gil to people to raise the price so the people who just paid real money give the gil they just paid for back to the damm gil sellers!
great ppl dont buy gil is just stupid! and when a low lvl34 rnk1 buys a 1.3k item u sure do look like a damm gil buyer! o.O
RE: =(
# Mar 14 2005 at 5:13 PM Rating: Default
You sir, are a moron. Gil buying doesn't cause poeple to buy items that poeple put up for MORE than the current prices. Yes. some poeple put them up for more, and they are not gil sellers, they are playes like you, now shut up, if you really want that item and the only one there is 500k instead of 400k you would would probably pay the 500k. Shut up, you have no idea what some normal players do, and blaming gil sellers for all your gil problems won't help you. and on another note.....My friends Bazaar mule is on 24/7 when he takes a break, so hes a gil seller for being on 24/7?
RE: =(
# Feb 21 2005 at 1:33 PM Rating: Default
1st of all... stop sayin 1.3k. its 1.3mil thanks.
learn ur numbers before u start complaining like a girl thanks. And also i camp this dude all the time ive probably sold over 15 pairs of these.. just so i can support more expensive jobs like my nin and rng so dont go assuming that ppl r gilsellers. And yes im greedy.. aint my fault u cant voke faster then me!

Edited, Mon Feb 21 13:36:09 2005
RE: =(
# Mar 25 2005 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
Oh lord yes, we're horrible complainers, don't even get me started on that!

And he didn't assume everyone who camped it was a gilseller, just one or two people.

Please read the post you're responding to.
RE: =(
# Feb 16 2005 at 1:10 AM Rating: Decent
2,192 posts
You complain too much.

1st off. Brown belt is a quested item. Meaning you can't obtain the item more than once per character.

So these supposed gilsellers really have no affect on brown belt.
RE: =(
# Feb 17 2005 at 2:51 PM Rating: Default
Dude you make no sense,
Doh I know Brown belt is a quested item, Im a mnk54! What's wrong with you!? The reason why an item doubles is because the people have more money to spend therefore people is willing to pay more and more just to get the item. For example, This belt was at a steady 300k to 400k for 6months. Gil sellers go inside Diabolos, sell gil people who pay for the gil have more money now so they compete to get the item and the price goes up. (simple economics) If there is less relative to capacity people can raise the price to crazy numbers. On the other hand if people cant make that amount of money the price stays steady, simply because if the seller increases the price no one will afford it therefor the item will stay in the auction house till it is return to the seller. If you cant see that then i'm talking to a wit nd theres nothing else i can say to make you understand the impact of gil selling.

Where else i ever complaint? NO WHERE! go find a post made by me... you will only find one and is not even a complaint is a suggestion... so with that said. Think before you speak... gil selling affects all prices... you dont believe me go ahead with your life then it aint my fault you cant understand how price, quantity and gil selling is affecting each other.
RE: =(
# May 20 2005 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
Alright i see *lots* of ppl not understanding the vicious circle around the gil sellers. Some will never understand cause they are just dumb and stubborn.

To make it simple i've detailed this in a timeline with a specific item (OcKotes for this one) :
1-Gil sellers go camp Mee Deggi.
2-Normal farmers who wants item (or gil) camps it too.
3-Gil sellers (being more experienced with camping NM), claims Mee Deggi and gets the drop.
4-OcKotes drops and Gil sellers puts it on AH.
[1 through 4 repeats]
5-The player that wants the item decides to buy it instead (and if he wanted gil hes going somewhere else).
6-Money goes in for the gil seller
7-Gil seller sells the money online
8-Gil buyer buys the money online
9-Gil buyer builds a PC and spends money on say... OcKotes.
10-Gil sellers gets their money back and sells it again.

I hope this is clear for everyone and their mothers.
RE: =(
# Apr 01 2005 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
What he ment to say was. Through people haveing more money to spend and are willing to spend it, because they bought gil, prices will rise to the point of not being able to be sold thats when the price will steady. But then the player buys more gil to support the extreme inflation which gives them more gil to spend and prices go up more. So anything with a large price tag goes up because of gil selling/buying its not just cause of the sellers. The sellers put them up at large numbers cause people are willing to pay for it still.
RE: =(
# Mar 27 2005 at 12:55 AM Rating: Default
dude... youre a (%&#ing idiot. your last 1,000 posts were jibberish and didn't they teach you how to say "is" in plural form? people is a plural word my man.

and also, WHAT are you talking about? People dont pay for gil in the game douche bag, they buy it off a website. you dont see a gilseller and a player walk into a secret alley in jeuno and trade 2mil for 100 bucks. sor-ry.

oh yeah and whats so simple about your simple economics? i couldnt understand a word of it. when people COMPETE they LOWER Their price so its sold first jackass. and why are you calling people wits? wow man, talk about reverse psychology.

oh, and youre complaining right there. nice one dip
RE: =(
# Mar 16 2005 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
<English> <Do you have it?>
RE: =(
# Feb 15 2005 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
hahahaha when the gilsellers took a break for their new year regular gamers took over the spawn and the kotes jumped straight from 1mil all the way to 2 ******* MIL can u believe it the american players are worse then the gil sellers at times i mean come on 2MIL thats crazy!!!
# Feb 14 2005 at 9:02 AM Rating: Decent
They went from 600k to 1m in just 2-3 weeks on Hades...
# Feb 14 2005 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
I hate this drop rate with a passion, took me 8 kills to finnaly get it
RE: Drop
# Mar 13 2005 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
dude 8 kills arent bad i kiled leaping lizzy like 15 times and i still have no drop so dont start about 8 kills
Main reason for price raise.
# Feb 13 2005 at 11:28 PM Rating: Decent
1,978 posts
Apart from the fact that they are overcamped. The reason prices go up so much for these items are the following:

Supply/Demand - Come on, no matter how many times the NM spawned/dropped these items, the number of times isn't enough that there is one of them for roughly 50% of a servers population, even more than 2 years after the game's release.

Almost no one who has them is willing to part with them - Even when they stopped long time ago to play a melee job, most mages I know still haven't sold their prized O.Kote, just because they fear losing their investment. lol, they might be right, in part, if everyone who had one just freely sold it at the AH, the prices on them would drop dramatically in just a couple days.

There might be hundreds more reasons for this, but, it's already late, so I'll let others go on about it.
Is it a game?
It's a SERVICE. Not a game. It's a WORLD. Not a game. It's a COMMUNITY. Not a game. Anyone who says, "it's just a game" is missing the point.

Beastmaster 75 on 2/5/2008 at 12:00 am EST

BFTM - Seriously, Beastmaster is Serious.
# Feb 11 2005 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
I remember when this thing used to be 600,000, now it's 850,000... I dunno if I want to use or sell it if/when I get it...
dam prices
# Feb 11 2005 at 4:51 PM Rating: Decent
On Seraph the kotes got up to 1.4 mil with pin at 850k and boots 700k and striders 11mil and just today shinei got 13k when i was 7k two days ago man the prces of everything are thruogh the roof.
Outrageous Price...
# Feb 11 2005 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
91 posts
Pushing 1.4mil gil now on Cerberus....there go my plans to level Monk *sob*
# Feb 11 2005 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
you all think that server prices are outrageous and unacceptable, so do I.These damn gillsellers need to get a real life and stop ruining this game for everyone else who plays it.I've been playing for like 10 months now, when I first started, the Peacock Charm was only like 1mil now they are 8mil!These bastards need to be stopped!
Ochiudos kote
# Feb 10 2005 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
hi guys
im about to try this quest and was wondering don i need to be given the quest by a NPC before i go there or can i just go straight there and fight mee degge the punisher to get them?

Edited, Thu Feb 10 15:14:31 2005
RE: Ochiudos kote
# Feb 10 2005 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
294 posts
you are correct, it's just a drop from mee deggi.
I need an O Kote.
# Feb 04 2005 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
263 posts
I hate these things. They are great stats and all, don't get me wrong, but the are 800k on Shiva Server. ; ; {/cry} I WILL have these one day, no matter how much BCNMing, farming, and questing it takes, i shall get them. Lol.

--End rant.
# Feb 03 2005 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
i recently bought these for my samurai on lakshmi, i bought it for 1.1mil o.0 prices went way up..
# Jan 31 2005 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
I Did it .... I got the Ochiudo's Kote... it took me three days of camping, and today it spawned right beside me, Im a level 46sam/war ... i did over 2500 damage to this POS of a mob and it dropped the kote and one wind crystel,

So .. im now 1 for 1 on the kote ... first time i got to kill it and last, WooooT

Edited, Mon Jan 31 22:58:18 2005
# Jan 31 2005 at 4:53 AM Rating: Default
i am doing tyhe emissary mission for bastok and was wondering if someone could haelp me.... i am on hades server... for more info /tell me online... ok bye
# Jan 31 2005 at 4:52 AM Rating: Default
i am doing tyhe emissary mission for bastok and was wondering if someone could haelp me.... i am on hades server... for more info /tell me online... ok bye
i just got my Kote ^^
# Jan 31 2005 at 4:42 AM Rating: Decent
I having wanted these gloves since i was a weee samurai i saved all me pennies and purchased these bad boys for 990k on Seraph server (after having unsuccessfully claimed him 4 times and never again cause off two mnks and a drg ><) but i must say these gloves worth every penny +20 to a hume samurai is a god sent subbing thf this has increased my per hit damage by 50-60 points these things are DEFINATLY worth the time/money
I'm gonna have to sleep on it....
# Jan 30 2005 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
47 posts
Well I thought I'd try going after these babies since I felt a 46MNK could take Mee Deggi down, and if anything bad happened, 100 Fists and Chakra would save me >.< I never got to fight him though. Unfortunately I have to wait till level 50, because I'm missing a key ability: Flee. The hardcore players on pandy seem to use this ability to claim every single spawn. The big man here is named Refuace or something, who sold about 10 kote. If he's a real player, kudos to you man, but there are people that need them. Flee seems to be used about every 10-15 mins after a placeholder is killed, I guess so that when something new pops, it is immediately claimed. I'll try out this technique in a few levels and see if I can finally have these things.

Oh and beware, first time I camped him was yesterday and it took 5 hours to spawn >.< However placeholders were EP to me and the high levels were too lazy to kill them I guess lol.
Party Time.
# Jan 27 2005 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
74 posts
Everyone always asks "Are these worth the 1 mil the AH sells them for" and says "I hate hate gilsellers blah blah blah." Come on people. This is fun! Get a claim or two and you'll see what I mean. I love it, it's such a rush and worth waiting those hours camping. The kote are the icing on the cake when you camp this thing. Think about it for a second. You just beat someone to Mee Deggi that camps him for their living! He puts a roof over their head, and you have showed your prowess. And to answer whether or not it's worth the money, YES. MNK/SAM/NIN all need damage output. I personally am a NIN, and at the higher levels, these things can MAKE or BREAK a party. Later everyone, and best of luck! It's not that hard, just keep trying! /moraleboost ^^.
fenrir gilsellers
# Jan 27 2005 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
1,505 posts
OK um...i really have no clue about what gilsellers etc farm this...BUT i have a list of people who i am 99% sure are gilsellsers... they aren't specific names... In Fenrir, there're a group of people who's names start with Home, then a selected letter (P/K/M/N/ETC) (Homep). there are also people who's name start with V, then a selected COLOR: example: Vwhite, Vblack, Vred, Vbrown, etc. i hope this helps the people on fenrir, good luck getting your kote (to mnk/sam/nin's out there mostly...)
fenrir gilsellers
# Jan 27 2005 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
1,505 posts
OK um...i really have no clue about what gilsellers etc farm this...BUT i have a list of people who i am 99% sure are gilsellsers... they aren't specific names... In Fenrir, there're a group of people who's names start with Home, then a selected letter (P/K/M/N/ETC) (Homep). there are also people who's name start with V, then a selected COLOR: example: Vwhite, Vblack, Vred, Vbrown, etc. i hope this helps the people on fenrir, good luck getting your kote (to mnk/sam/nin's out there mostly...)
Over rated
# Jan 25 2005 at 4:58 AM Rating: Decent
+20 attack? At that level?

Completely overrated. All of you are crazy if you pay anything more than 80k for these things.
RE: Over rated
# Jan 26 2005 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
1,505 posts
That's exactly the point: this is an incredibly tough NM. It is high leveled and an extremely rare drop (no experience but i hear so...)...This isn't one of the things you NEED at this level: it's "just for show"...Personally i would LOVE to have it but at my impatience at camping NMs and badness at farming, it won't be any time soon... /cry

Edited, Wed Jan 26 20:47:43 2005
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