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Strike Baghnakhs
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# Jul 25 2004 at 9:48 AM Rating: Default
Got mine last nite with help from a lvl 20THF named Blackhawkz. Thanks again!
Also got the shield,the other day though

Edited, Sun Jul 25 10:49:07 2004
these orcs
# Jul 07 2004 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
Whenever I go NM camping (I want the shield for WAR and knuckles for MNK) I always read these posts - and to tell the truth get a little depressed hearing about all the time wasted camping these things, and then you hear about people killing it first try, not even expecting the items. Its no wonder why psychiatric medications are becoming increasingly available to the public.

At least this spawn has 2 monsters to camp and the delay is an hour (or less)

See you at thier spawn. =P

Amount Of Gil
# Jun 12 2004 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
305 posts
How much does the item sell for at AH?
RE: Amount Of Gil
# Oct 21 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
I've seen these on sandy ah (Bahamut) for around 20k
RE: Amount Of Gil
# Oct 21 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
I've seen these on sandy ah (Bahamut) for around 20k
RE: Amount Of Gil
# Oct 21 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
I've seen these on sandy ah (Bahamut) for around 20k
# Apr 29 2004 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
I got these at lvl 16 and didnt find them to be that good....I sold em and used Bastokan til I hit lvl 20 and got Cougar
H2H and Sneak Attack
# Apr 22 2004 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
im a 18 lvl thf and i've used both daggers and H2H, and yes you can use sneak attack with knuckles.

also, i prefer H2H over daggers because it seems to me that knuks do more damage than daggers do, and altho the dagger WS wasp sting poisons the monster your fighting, H2H WS Combo can do some good damage later on.

hope this helps,

18 lvl Thief
Alexander server
RE: H2H and Sneak Attack
# May 19 2004 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
59 posts
Hey, just as a little side info:

Using H2H for THF untill level 20 is good. But I suggest you switch to Dagger from level 20 (maybe 25). A lvl 33 THF will get Viper Bite as a weapon skill ability. This combined with a Sneak Attack/Trick Attack will cause major damage. Its even to be told that a SATA-Viper Bite outdamages the RNG Barrage. I do not agree on that. RNG Barrage does more damage. However, a Barrage needs 5 minutes reload, SATA-Viper Bite (with good dex) will need a maximum of 3 minutes. so basically they'll do about the same damage.

Hope this was any help at all.
RE: H2H and Sneak Attack
# Aug 05 2004 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
agreed when i was in garlaige citadel i saw SATA Viper bite hit 450...so i challenge use barrage plus food...500 damage :)
RE: H2H and Sneak Attack
# Aug 16 2004 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
30 posts
This may be true at lower levels, but once you get nearer to the lvl 50ish mark, the THF SATA with Viper Bite does around 600+, when the barrage is rarely used, and only does around 400ish if they get lucky.
RE: H2H and Sneak Attack
# Sep 29 2004 at 10:13 PM Rating: Good
722 posts
As I THF who has PTed with plenty of RNGs, I have to save I have never seen Barrage outdamage my SATA+Viper Bite. And that's even counting this one really good RNG I PTed with who used a gun and just overall played his job very well. Hell, one time he used Eagle Eye Shot and did about 480 damage (this was to an IT Soldier Crawler at about level 38), then I did SATA+VB for like 540... plus about 250 from Distortion. :P
# Apr 19 2004 at 8:10 PM Rating: Decent
All I can say is wow. These knuckles kick *** but its 20k on my server!?! I mean I think I might go hunt them instead. Is the Orc an NM?
what to use...
# Apr 18 2004 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
134 posts
ok a few questions.....

1: How can you tell if a h2h weapon is better than a dagger? the stats are displayed differently and h2h hits twice so i cant think of a way = /

2: At this lvl, would it be better to use these instead of a dagger when playing a thief? ive heard that you should always use daggers with thieves, but from what ive checked, the only good lower lvl dagger is a Bee Stinger till about your 20's, but bee stinger is very out dated by this lvl, so it makes me wonder...

3: With h2h, can you still use all the thief abilitys/skills correclty?? i think once i heard from someone that you cant sneak attack with h2h, but it was in ronfaure and it might have been some noob comment, so i was just curious

sorry for the noob question's but im new to thief and ive always been wondering about this, usually people say "h2h is for monks, use a dagger!" so yeah, thx in advance for any info =)
Mojozk - Ragnarok Server
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Which is better
# Apr 04 2004 at 12:23 AM Rating: Decent
Which is better?

The Strike Baghnakhs


Legionnaire's Knuckles

# Feb 20 2004 at 3:34 AM Rating: Default
Uhm they are rediculousely good for a lvl 14 charecter...
# Feb 01 2004 at 9:36 AM Rating: Default
Best till claws come along
(Know your place in this world) 21/8 mnk/war
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 01 2004 at 9:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Best till claws come along
Why are they so valuble?
# Jan 27 2004 at 8:51 PM Rating: Default
Look at the DEX +2 bonus. That would equate to a +1 Accuracy bonus, and the delay is roughly 45% less than standard hand to hand weapons. Plus it's a rare drop.
you wouldn't believe me...
# Jan 15 2004 at 1:12 PM Rating: Default
Heh I was stumbling thru ghelsba without a map and happened upon one of these uncamped... killed it and got the knuks... just wish i had this sort of luck with the leaping boots.... oh yeah they go for around 30k on the alexander server in sandy

Lvl 27 Thief
Alexander Server
RE: you wouldn't believe me...
# Apr 02 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
149 posts
how much
# Jan 13 2004 at 7:33 PM Rating: Default
how much do these cost at the AH?
1st try
# Jan 05 2004 at 5:15 PM Rating: Decent
lol exact sam thing happened to me. tried it a few more times but hasnt dropped afterward.
my camping experience
# Jan 02 2004 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
to all those wanting to get this item, as of yet i have been unable to (only killed 4 of the guys). In my wait however i have gotten my lantern shield :). I have noticed the spawn time for the two are the following:

1st spawn of Wallbreacher (whenever, dependent on when last was killed)

The spawn of the Barricador comes shortly afterward anywhere between 2 min and 15 minutes later.

2nd spawn 1hr 25min - 1hr 35min after death of the 1st orcish wallbreacher

The spawn of the barricador comes same as before 2 minutes to 15 minutes later...

This drop is really rare for me... the lantern shield was not (got it on second kill).

After this off for LL for the Leaping Boots... hehe
almost giving up
# Dec 31 2003 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
352 posts
Went to where the wallbreacher spawns. 2 other people fighting for it and it only spawns every hour (1 game day). The only thing making go back to keep trying is the ridiculous AH prices.
I try again
# Nov 21 2003 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
I try solo again last night,

Try to kill that thing. I forgot that orcs name, I think he is the one who drop this baghnakh.

I'm only take him 1/3hp and I got beat to dead. I think this mog at lest 18 - 20+. Well, I will try again with a group next time.
RE: I try again
# Dec 08 2003 at 3:55 AM Rating: Default
I solo'd it as an Elvaan 16/8 WHM/BLM today. I have 240 HP, 150 MP and 73 DEF with Protect on.

It checked as a decent challenge and gave me 72 XP when it died, but it was a pretty hard solo. Banish and Stone were resisted a lot, so I had to melee it down with my Hermit's Wand (6/216) and a Club skill of 43. By the end of the fight, I had no MP left but some of it was wasted on nuking. I think I cast Cure II about 3 times on myself, so I should have some headroom of I just melee it down next time. Slow probably helped a lot too.
RE: I try again
# Dec 28 2003 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
Decent Challenge?, all NMs check as impossible to guage btw.
RE: I try again
# Dec 30 2003 at 5:47 PM Rating: Default
Well, this mob isn't a NM, by the way...
RE: I try again
# Jan 02 2004 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
haha btw
Orcish Wallbreacher
# Nov 17 2003 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
24 posts
Orcish Wallbreacher
Family: Orc
Level: 15-16
Detection: Sight
Weakness: Water

From what I've heard he's a floater, no exact locations or time of day yet.
Orcish Wallbreacher?
# Nov 13 2003 at 6:17 AM Rating: Default
It says dropped by the Orcish Wallbreacher. Where is this guy located, or does he just float around? How strong is it?
RE: Orcish Wallbreacher?
# Nov 20 2003 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
Ronfaure West, E4. many many level 10+ orcs in there. becareful!! The Orcish Wallbreacher is about 15+ or higher (Not sure). He is Deep inside Ghelsba Outpost. Solo last night, got kill buy this guy. I'm 13 Hum - monk with 221hp with Burning Cesti and level 12 stuff, still can't bet this guy half way. :(

Oh. you need a map for this one too. 600gil get it from old lady in Northern San d'Oria near the fountains
# Nov 12 2003 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
A lot of jobs have hand to hand as an option.. just look at who can use this weapon..
Warrior, Thief, Red Mage, Ninja, Monk, Dark Knight
Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Nov 07 2003 at 11:18 AM Rating: Default
These seem to be pretty rare, and the ones that are up for sale in game in the Auction House ranges from 45k to 50k gil. Why so much for a level 14 item? Crafted weapon that's hard to get, a quest, or major boss fight somewheres to get these?!
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# May 25 2004 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
The main reason they are so expensive is the fact that they add 2 to dex and have a lower delay than some other H2H weapons. It may seem stupid but people pay that much to have their stats raised.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Dec 02 2003 at 12:44 AM Rating: Default
45k or more is plain dumb. Totally not worth it. On Diabolos they have sold for as little as 10k. 15k is probably a decent price, especially when you compare them to other HtH at the same level range.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Nov 11 2003 at 11:01 PM Rating: Good
947 posts
No boss fight, no difficult crafting; just simple rarity.

Strike Baghnakhs are a drop off of a NM (Notorious Monster) in the Ghelsba Outpost.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Nov 10 2003 at 12:25 PM Rating: Default
I can't say why the rarity, but that definitely accounts for the price. I could see a weapon that requires lvl 50 being cheaper just because you will have a smaller market to sell to. Everyone out there playing a MNK as their subclass would want a weapon like this because it is so good and so low level.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Nov 12 2003 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
I was under the impression that one was not able to use H2H weapons if you have monk as a subjob. I thought it was only abilities,bonuses,etc.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Nov 22 2003 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
If your main job can use H2H weapons, and you have monk as a subjob, you benefit from the monk traits that improve H2H.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Dec 04 2003 at 4:19 PM Rating: Default
of course monks can use Hand to hand i think that would be dumb of them to make monks use nothing or just staff..... even MAGEs have two weapons
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Dec 06 2003 at 3:32 AM Rating: Default

Sooo im waiting for the wall breacher to spawn and i thought i'd just say. to all you aspiring monks...you will never have these unless you have major help or are an alt of a high level.

I've killed it 7 times now waiting on 8, and it hasn't dropped the claws. to make things worse it takes MORE than an hour to re-spawn, even Worse its usualy camped!

So don't waist your time like i did, just get to 20 and get some couger claws.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Dec 29 2003 at 1:18 AM Rating: Default
...i was messin around in ghelsba today and came upon this guy. never seen him before so i killed him, he dropped the claws, first try.
RE: Trying to find out how to find these.....
# Jan 02 2004 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
i hate you :P
the claws
# Feb 01 2004 at 9:40 AM Rating: Default
[b]you just have bad luck wait till your in your 20's for couger or lynx baghknah
(Be paiticent Grass Hopper time will tell)
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