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Scorpion Harness
[Body] All Races
DEF:40 HP+15
-20 +15 +15
Accuracy+10
Evasion+10
Lv.57 WAR/MNK/RDM/THF/PLD/DRK/BST/BRD/
SAM/NIN/DRG/BLU/COR/DNC/RUN

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# Aug 18 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Default
If anyone can craft these on siren server please send zivs a /tell. I know someone who needs 1 crafted and is willing to pay i believe 4.7 mil for 1.
Meh...
# Aug 13 2004 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
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NOTE FOR THIEVES: Forget this item, at lvl 45 get +1 Brigindine for around 800k and then at lvl 59 switch to the Flora Coathardie for around 1.3 million. The stat buffs on these items will do much more for your job effectivness than +10 ACC The +10 Evasion isn't even worth mentioning, thieves have the highest Evasion in the game and they never get attacked after lvl 30 anyway.

This is a very good item for a NIN or RNG, but for a THF the +1 Brig, Flora Coathardie, and +1 Blue Coathardie is the ideal upgrade path. If you want +ACC then get a Peacock Charm, the cost of a Flora Coathardie and a Peacock Charm just about comes to the price of a Scorpion Harness except you'll get a much bigger overall stat boost.

EDIT: If you aren't a mithra then perhaps this might be a good idea, but Mithra already have monster DEX and thus high ACC so the +STR from a Cotehardie is more usefull (and it adds DEX and AGI as well, all on one item)

Edited, Mon Aug 16 21:47:49 2004
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
RE: Meh...
# Sep 28 2004 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Man bringadine +1 in diabolos is 5mil ><
RE: Meh...
# Aug 28 2004 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
Aye but at lv60 THFs get Dancing Edge which damage is Acc-based
RE: Meh...
# Sep 20 2004 at 4:04 PM Rating: Default
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and it looks so pimp
Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 09 2004 at 6:15 PM Rating: Default
On Midgardsormr, the Scorpion Harness is currently going for 7.5-8 million gil. Let me tell you something, people... you'd have to be an idiot to think that price is fair or justified. Let’s take a couple of things into consideration.

First, the recipe for making this item is rumored to be 69 Bonecrafting. As a veteran crafter, I can tell you that raising a craft to 69 is an easy and attainable goal. If you had all the supplies you needed, it would take you about two days (real life) in order to get a craft to 69. Not only that, but you could power-level it to 69 for less than 2 million gil (noting that some crafts are more expensive that other, e.g. Goldsmithing).

Secondly, the "venomous claw", the ingredient that makes this item so expensive, drops almost every time from Genbu (24 hour spawn), frequently off Serket (24 hour spawn) and less frequently off Amikiri (2 hour spawn). Yes, some of these NM are difficult, but not impossible. Two level 75's can take Serket, as can party of 70s. What's happening here, to be quite frank, is that you are being gouged!

Let’s compare the price of a Scorpion Harness to that of a Peacock Charm, shall we? They both give the same Accuracy bonus; only the Peacock Charm costs 4 million gil. Not only that, Argus, with a 24 hour spawn, is FAR more camped than either Serket or Amikiri and drops the Peacock Charm far less frequently. So here's an item (Peacock Charm) that gives you +10 Accuracy and is Lv.33 for All Jobs for 4 million gil. I'd say that's a rather fair price. Scorpion Harness, on the other hand, can be crafted from a fairly common drop, is Lv.57 and for only 11 jobs. If you pay a dime over 3 million gil for this item, you are being screwed.

Another comparison would be the Vermillion Cloak, which you need 3 Damascene Cloths and a 70 Clothcraft skill. On Midgardsormr, they sell for 2 million gil. That's a somewhat fair price considering that Aquarius is about as powerful as Serket and drops the Damascene Cloth about as often. Unfortunately, you need THREE Damascene Cloths compared to ONE claw. Are you starting to see the discrepancies here?

I see far too many people running around with Scorpion Harnesses to believe they all shelled out 8 million gil for one. The easy answer is... they didn't. For anyone who wants this nice harness, do yourself a favor: save your gil, invest in crafting, grab a bunch of your high level friends and go camp some of these NM. If the venomous claw was only dropped from the gods, we might have a different argument here, but it doesn't. Anyone who buys this harness for more than 3 million gil must be suffering from mental retardation.

P.S. Chains of Promathia might have a slew of new armor and equipment that puts the Scorpion Harness to shame. If you're thinking about buying one, you might want to save your money and see what better things the future may have to offer.
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 18 2004 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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the problem would, of course, be not in the bonecrafters, but in the campers. Why would they sell a steenkin' claw for 5mil, anyways? ********.

oh, right, because bonecrafters are willing to PAY that price. because scorpion harnesses SELL. because they're _good_. And remember, armor isn't just the stat boosts, it's also the defense and other abilities. Scorpion harness has fairly good defense, and the +HP helps.

never mind that the comparison between peacock charm and scorp harness is pretty false, anyways. peacock charm drops very rarely off a 24hr nm; that NM is ALWAYS camped and the people that camp it pretty much ALWAYS sell the charm, so even though it is rare there is always a good supply. scorpion harness is _crafted_ from a rare drop; that means you need both the drop and the crafter, and the crafter has to be willing to spend 5mil on a totally risky synth. That means scorp harnesses are not created very often; so even though the claw is more rare, the harness itself is not.

OH. and 69 in two days? You are crazy. It took my friend who did barrel through bonecraft 0-60 about a week. and he synthed _every day_ day in day out. he never synthed for profit, and synthed for straight skillup. Never mind that bonecraft isn't particularly profitable, so very few people bother to skill up in it (relative to the people that do, say, smithing).

Nevermind that it's not just 69 bonecraft, but also mid-30s to low-40s leathercraft. leathercraft and bonecraft are both huge money sinks up to 60. How many people do you personally know that have the skill to synth a harness coupled with the money to even buy the claw to make one?

oh, juhle: cooking is kind of special, in that it's cheap as hell and easy as hell. I could get cooking to 60 in one day, it would cost me next to nothing. Oh, wait, I DID. Bonecraft took me _much_ longer and cost me _much_ more.

I personally wish the claw was cheaper; if it was, and people noticed, harness prices would drop. but that's how economy works -- consumers pay what they think something is worth.
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 16 2004 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sure the majority of people with scorpion harness are in a HNM (or similar high level) linkshell. They get the claw drop and either sell that to buy the harness or just have someone craft it for them.
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 10 2004 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
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Anonymous, you're a liar.
It's impossible to get to 69 in a craft in two days, if only because the AH would run out of whatever you're trying to craft.
Saying that this should be cheaper is like saying that speed belt, healing staff, strider boots, serket ring, etc should all be cheaper because they're 'just nm drops' >.>
and no, they didn't shell out 8 million gil for one, but now that there's twice the number of people who want one, why not jack up the price a bit?
-Vert
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Nov 16 2004 at 8:21 PM Rating: Default
i got my clothcraft to lv. 50 in 2 days.. currently 58.8.
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 26 2004 at 9:41 AM Rating: Default
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ug, replying to my own post :D

Ruin the game for everybody? It's not me man, it's the system. The supply stays constant, demand just increases and increases. :D (plus, would you tell me that if you got say, a monster signa, which sells for let's call it 300k, and someone offers 500k, you wouldn't take it?)

Grats on the leather & the cooking, but cooking is rediculously easy to level, and did you run out of skins when you lvled your leather? case in point :D

Yes, peacock charm, speed belt, etc etc are verra rare NM drops, but:
A. they don't need to be crafted
B. the demand is significantly less, even though the supply is too.
Why would we craft items to sell at cost when the materials cost five million? Even silver ingots have a 100% profit if you steal four beastcoins (200 for crystal, 2000 for ingot) so what's wrong with a 40% markup for services, and the risk of breaking?

in other news: i'm on track to craft one of these within the week, i'll post a link to the video later :D
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Jan 07 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
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it's the system. The supply stays constant, demand just increases and increases.


The supply is not constant. Factor in the amount of internet gil buyers are increasing and the price of internet gil keeps going lower. This fact in essence reduces the supply indirectly. The supply being lowered by people that have not earned the gear, reducing the number of items available for the players who play within the games economy.

This fact is also evident in the fact that more people are power leveling crafts from purchased gil, making crafting less profitable, as they are dumping all there crafted item on the market.

The rare items will continue to rise and the crafted items will continue to decrease in price.

Edited, Fri Jan 7 17:08:34 2005
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Jul 05 2005 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
The supply isn't constant, but not for the reason you listed. A change in supply would be adding or removing V.Claw sources (Which SE has done, it now drops from BCNMs, and no longer drops from Tyrannic Tunok [So I've heard]). An increase of people with the gil to buy this is an increase in demand.
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 10 2004 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
Quote:
now that there's twice the number of people who want one, why not jack up the price a bit?


Now it makes sense. Vert's on here calling people liars because he's one of the one's who's jacking up the price on these and ripping everybody off. Way to ruin the game for everbody! Good job!
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 12 2004 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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aww! /cry!!!!

If you want one, stop complaining and either save for it, or get the items for it. If I had it, and could sell it for 7mil, I would. It's not "ruining the game" for anyone, it's just making you mad, because you can't get the armor you want without having to do some work for it. Getting those skills up to that level is easy? you can do it in 2 days? Go for it. Get both up to where you need them in 4 days, get the items, and make those and sell them cheaper till your heart's content. \o/ Yay!
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 10 2004 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
i got my Cooking to 60 in about two days and actually made a profit from it. right now, i've gotten my Leathercraft to 43 in about 3 days and may have been able to get it to 60 in two days had i actually not been so lazy and gone out to farm Ram skins. that's only cost me about 90k so far.
so it's definately possible to level a craft to 60 in two days. heehee, if i had 7-8 million gil, i could easily level all my crafts to 60! *drools*
as for the Harness, i agree. i, myself, would LOVE to have one. but 7 million gil is too much. it's an absurd price for something that's just not that rare.
my feeling is that people will keep selling items like this for outrageous prices as long as other people continue to buy them. so don't!!
if ever your itchy finger hovers above the "Buy" button, think of how 7 million gil could raise your Goldsmithing to 90 and then you could be making rings that sell for 200k a pop!
btw, i have heard that on most servers, the scorp harness sells for about 4 million gil. >.<;
RE: Don't Be An Idiot, People
# Aug 10 2004 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
Ummm... Vert maybe you should learn to read things a little closer. Here's what Anonymous posted above:

Quote:
Argus, with a 24 hour spawn, is FAR more camped than either Serket or Amikiri and drops the Peacock Charm far less frequently. So here's an item (Peacock Charm) that gives you +10 Accuracy and is Lv.33 for All Jobs for 4 million gil. I'd say that's a rather fair price. Scorpion Harness, on the other hand, can be crafted from a fairly common drop, is Lv.57 and for only 11 jobs.


The Peacock Charm, Speed Belt, Healing Staff, Strider Boots, and Serket Ring are very rare NM drops. What I think the above poster was trying to say was that those rare drops cost less (even though they are harder to get) than an item you can craft yourself from a receipe whose ingredients are fairly often dropped from 3 different NM.
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# Aug 03 2004 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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69 bone and 69 leather? but the site says leather 0?
Can you read?
# Jun 25 2004 at 10:31 AM Rating: Default
how many times do ppl have to say "THE HARNESS IS CRAFTED".... dumbass
your answer
# Jun 15 2004 at 11:52 PM Rating: Default
The armor doesn't drop, its is crafted you need 69 bone crafting, and 69 leather crafting, and the recipe alone cost millions.. but the sell is good and yet the harness is even better.. sells for about 4.4m in my server in Asura..

Serket drops the claws to make this item. it is an HNM in Garliege Citadel that spawns once a day.. and is heavely camped and timed by higher levels such as I. ^^
RE: your answer
# Dec 13 2004 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent
Can anybody who has actually produced one, confirm how high your leathercraft needs to be in order to safely craft a scorpion harness. In case you are worried about competition, i am on the seraph server. Thanx for the help.
harness synth
# Apr 28 2004 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
genbu drops the venomous claw. as a HNM, it explains why the claw alone costs millions.
k
# Feb 12 2004 at 5:14 PM Rating: Default
I believe that part of the recipe drops from serket in garliage citadel. good luck killing it though i have seen an army of lvl 70 take down this thing ;p
ARG, these cost 10 mill on my server
# Feb 11 2004 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
which HNM and what is the Recipe?
yeah
# Feb 11 2004 at 4:47 PM Rating: Default
since I'm a ninja I really want to know were I could get this is it droped by a NM Scorpion, or is it just crafted... does anyone know ?????
Not dropped
# Feb 05 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
It is crafted. Part of the recipe is dropped by a HNM that pops once a day (if my source is correct)
scorpionking
# Feb 02 2004 at 12:30 AM Rating: Default
any idea where this armor drope from?
RE: scorpionking
# Sep 27 2004 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
its not droped. its crafted only.
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