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DEF:46 HP+25 STR+3 DEX-3 VIT+3 AGI-3 INT-3 MND-3 CHR-3

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# Sep 10 2008 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
Im not new or anything i just havent been on in over a year and would just like to know how exactly this peice of equipment when swapped in for ws's wouldnt do more damage then haubergeon. I mean farming on easy prey or decent or w/e. im a level 60 ninja/war and people on my ls are dead set that haubergeon is better for swapping in to ws. Aside from a 10 accuracy difference from haubergeon and byrnie which i wouldnt think would make that much of a difference on easy prey and decent challenge with sniper rings and a lifebelt why is it worse. Id swap right back to Scorpian harness after ws. Its at 170k right now on my server heub is 230k. Aside from "its just better" and "i love hauby" why is hauby a better choice?
# Mar 16 2009 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
TBH I don't see how a Haub is better. I EXP'd in a Byrnie as SAM Vs. SAMs in a Haub. I hit harder each time and my WS's were dealing more DMG too. On only 2 occasions were the SAM's equipped different;y and that was just GKT choice. Otherwise we were the same in gear. IMHO. I'd take a Byrnie unless ACC was an issue
# Nov 17 2008 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
WS mods

Jin is modded by str and dex at 30% each, byrnie has +3 str BUT that is off set by the -3 dex so its a complete wash, and no the +20 attack wont make up for that when compared to the hauby which has 5 str and dex AND +10 acc & attk.

Haubergeon for ws, byrnie for tp if you have enough acc to make up for it.
# Mar 15 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
if you are a pld and you use your Gallant Gauntlets the -3dex doesnt matter.the +3str and +20 attack is to good to pass up on
# Jun 02 2008 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
I use this piece on my main 68 sam & pld. Its kick ***. and for all those ppl crying about the dex-3.....like someone posted before dex is 1/2 acc....-3 is almost irrelavent. And for those still stuck on the whole "-3, sam needs all dex it can get or it doesnt give +10 acc", use a lightning bow + 1. it gives +3 dex to cancel it out or one of the grips which all jobs can equip, and you should be eating food to make up for stats in any xp or hnm or w.e. Combine this piece with acc+ food and your golden. And on top of that ppl forget that sam has "Hasso" now. Thats increased attk speed, +attk, and +acc. I dont kno hasso exact numbers but i have used it with this piece a few times with no food on IT+ mobs and i still landed 3/4 of my hits. Not to mention Zanshin. thats like a sams second wind when it comes to attacking. when solo or farming with nin subbed using seigan + thirdeye + ichi, its straight ownage. -3 doesnt even play a factor. Hauby is good piece, but to say that its better for sam only for the fact that it gives +10 acc isnt a good enough support to me.
# Feb 04 2007 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
hi, i need some attack gear for farming...is this a good body for a pld with great sword to be farming with?
# Dec 11 2006 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
ok the site says i need:
Behemoth Leather x1
Darksteel Sheet x1
Dhalmel Leather x1
* Ram Leather x1
* Silver Mail x1
* Tiger Leather x1
but the guild guy says i only need:
Darksteel Sheet x1
Dhalmel Leather x1
* Ram Leather x1
* Tiger Leather x1

Edited, Dec 11th 2006 12:51pm by akasephiroth
# Nov 14 2006 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
those who are advocating the HQ byrnie, try 18-30 million gil for the HQ one. thats enough to buy a mountain. haha yeah.
hidden killer effect
# Jun 15 2006 at 2:00 AM Rating: Excellent
I think this thing gives a hidden effect of one of the killer traits. I was hunting megalobugard one day as my 59NIN to see if I could kill him. Well I couldnt but I was close so I went and got lvl 60 (I use a byrnie). The next day I noticed I was intimadating a lot of the bugards, at first i thougt it was a fluke but it happened probably 5-10 times and it worked on megalo too. This was the only thing i changed in my gear and ninja doesnt get a killer trait so I'm pretty sure this is what caused it. Killed megalo and got drop btw ^^

*edit* figured out it was the food that gave me the effect >.< forgot all about it till a couple days ago

Edited, Wed Jun 21 03:01:17 2006
Think about it carefully.
# May 24 2006 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
This item is best suited for a Paladin in Ballista, hands down. As far as the people expressing their utter glee for the +10 Attack over the Haubergeon, it's very short lived. In fact, it's extremely short lived.

Haubergeon +1 > Byrnie +1 > Haubergeon > Byrnie

One thing that must be considered, is even at higher levels, the +10 Attack is nothing compared to the exorbitant amount of just simply better stats the Haubergeon gives. As was stated earlier, you lose 8 Dexterity, 10 Accuracy, and 2 Strength from using Byrnie over Haubergeon.

Of course, I can rightly justify using the HQ Byrnie over the NQ Haubergeon. The difference of between those too is too great. Other than that, and this is a reference for all jobs, but Paladin, the Haubergeon is very much the more clear choice for Warrior, Dark Knight (especially), Samurai, and Ninja.
# May 23 2006 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
This is odd too me. Maybe i havent been paying much attention but it seems weird that this recipe requires a behemoth lether when that synth caps higher then the byrnie. I have never seen a higher material cap than the primary craft level for the item. Being leather in this case.

Edited, Tue May 23 17:26:58 2006
# Feb 24 2006 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
61 posts
Mmk, At Lv.75 most EXP PTs chain VTs quickly. Really no need for extra Acc whn your almost hitting 99.9% of the time with sushi.
I do agree for IT++, HNM, Gods, etc that +10 Acc would be better than 20 attack.
When it comes down to it, it REALLY depends on what your fighting.
I just bought one for my DRK and BST, because I didnt want -20 Eva and -6 AGI, because I never party anymore, and -20 eva and agi is horrible in farming, helping poeple out etc.
Goes for 8-10 Mil on Bismarck, Hauby goes from 6-8Mil. Prices have been jumpping and falling by a couble of mils latly tho.

Good for T-VT Chaining, ok~ for IT~, Better from LV.74-75, I wouldnt use one from Lv.60-74 tho.
Byrnie *^^*
# Feb 08 2006 at 2:42 AM Rating: Decent
23 posts
If you are any melee class, you want to get as much accuracy you can get your hands on. 10 accuracy is much better then 20 attack. Attack means nothing if you are missing half or more of those hits. The haubergeon blows this armor out of the water.

To address this statement clearly, you are sort of right but im guessing you have never used Byrnie or even Hauby. The NQ is amazing for most any job listed for soloing and the HQ is even better depending on your budget. On most servers Hauby is cheaper then Byrnie mostly cause of the high demand of higher level DD's who prefer Atck+ when at higher lvls you lvl more off of VT++ to IT instead of IT++. Thus because of the weaker mobs you can hit alot easier with less accuracy, so the Atck+ comes REALLY in handy. Hauby is a great piece of armor, dont take me wrong, but alot of ACC doesnt come in handy if you cant dish out the damage needed with all that ACC.

Byrnie is by far one of the best pieces of equips I have picked up. I also keep a Hauby with me at all times just in case I need the +10 Accuracy but that so far has never happened. Byrnie doesnt look as great as Hauby does on WAR but it is by far a much better piece. If you have the gil the HQ is worth it by far.

Scorp harnesses are made for nin, but when it's twice as expensive as a Byrnie I can understand ninjas buying Byrnie.
How Byrnie+1 got to 20M+ I'll never understand though.

Most NINs who have Byrnie also have a Scorp. Harness. They use Byrnie to macro into WSs and for farming. Scorpion Harness is made for every job and its great for blink tanking cause of the +EVA. Byrnie+1 is 40 mil on my server and its rising because people understand what a great piece of armor it really is.
# Dec 24 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Default
Why is Byrnie +1 cheaper than Byrnie on Phoenix...?
# Dec 23 2005 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
Would this be good for a 69 War or should i just stick with a Hauberk?
RE: good
# Jan 10 2006 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
I would say Hauberk. We warriors at this Lv. are mainly DD's at this point. I keep my AF gear on me just incase. Also I keep A set of DD gear and Def gear as A precaution.Byrine is nice, no dought but if I were to choose on a long trem DD gear, Hauberk for Warrior is best think.
Good for Sam if:
# Nov 03 2005 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
1,222 posts
Good for SAM if you are able to swap ACC gear out. If not, then the Hauby would be the obvious choice.
The price makes the angels weep
# Sep 03 2005 at 1:14 AM Rating: Default
107 posts
I was planning on getting one of these until I went to my server's (Pandemonium) AH and saw that it's like 4.5 mil. Argh! `;=-(;_;) I honestly don't have that kind of money. I'm either going to stick with my artifact or just put levelling on hold for some SERIOUS farmage.
# Aug 15 2005 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
I think this gear is totally awsome for War/nin, if you have a life belt and two viking axes its +30 acc plus shushi, so that makes up for hauby's +10 acc and I think it looks way better. :P
RE: awsome
# Aug 16 2005 at 2:22 AM Rating: Decent
40 posts
lvl 60 is far, far too late to still be using viking axes, they shouldn't be used any later than 55 in my opinion, if you have that much of a problem with accuracy, look over your equipment and choose your food wisely
RE: awsome
# Sep 07 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Good
1,275 posts
60 is definately too late to be mainhanding a Viking. Offhand, you can still toss one into the sub slot if your hit rate doesn't meet your standards, but the low damage on the Viking Axe is going to really show, even with good attack food.
This is great!
# Aug 15 2005 at 9:45 AM Rating: Good
207 posts
Dude this thing would own *** for sam as you should probably be using sole sushi anyways past 60.
This is great!
# Sep 12 2008 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
I thoroughly agree with you as i have been using this on my sam since it was lvl 60. I have the gil to buy hauby but to this day even with doing Hnms dynamis salvage etc etc...i have yet to have acc problems. Hel sometimes i go without food just to see how big difference it is to have this or hauby and i see none. and if i am having acc problems i just use hasso. problem solved.
# Jul 25 2005 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
Since i'm a dd ninja i'm thinin about getting this
RE: ninja
# Aug 05 2005 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
get a hauby =P
RE: ninja
# Aug 05 2005 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
Agi -5 and Evasion -20 on a Ninja?
<Thanks for the offer but I'll have to pass>

Scorp harnesses are made for nin, but when it's twice as expensive as a Byrnie I can understand ninjas buying Byrnie.
How Byrnie+1 got to 20M+ I'll never understand though.

Edited, Fri Aug 5 20:46:21 2005
RE: ninja
# Aug 06 2005 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
20 M, damn our +1 on siren is like 8M
RE: ninja
# Aug 08 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Excellent
87 posts
yea, its 8mil last sold at ah... in feburary!
now that the price has gone up on behemoth hides to 4.3 mil, the synth of a byrnie is now 4.45 mil.. and they only sell for 3.5 mil at the ah, so if i possibly synthed 1/10 +1 with 97.5+3 leather and 60 smithing, then the minimum price for the +1 granted losses in selling regulars would have to be 11,500,000g just to barely make a profit. now, granted the difficulty of +1ing these, the demand for the +1 versoin, and the extreme rarity that these go up at the ah, yea, 20mil for one would be easy to get.
RE: ninja
# Aug 15 2005 at 2:42 AM Rating: Decent
162 posts
On Phoenix Byrnie+1 is only like 1mil more than Byrnie... which is about 3.5mil for byrnie, 4.5 mil for hq
noob question
# May 30 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
someone said it takes 70 smith and 90 leather to get +1 of these items.

i have been told that you could only take 1 guild higher than 60, so how would this be possible.
unless i have misunderstood.

please help me out i have 3 crafts at 60 and not sure which i want to lvl past that.....
RE: noob question
# Aug 15 2005 at 7:59 PM Rating: Decent
334 posts
If you synth this with 80+ Leather and 55+ Smith you'll be in tier 2 (11+ over the cap in each craft), which is as high as you can get for this item, since it's impossible to have 100 Leather and 75 Smith (tier 3 = 31+ over the cap in each craft) at the same time. In tier 2, your HQ rate should vary from about 1% up to somewhere between 5-10% depending on day of the week and moon phase. I haven't seen any kind of statistical evidence on what the highest HQ rate you can get from tier 2 is, but from my observations it's 10% at the most.
RE: noob question
# Jun 13 2005 at 1:05 AM Rating: Excellent
87 posts
actually, you can take 4 crafts to lvl 70 if you wanted to. its not that you can only get 1 craft above lvl 60, its just that you only have 40 synthesis levels after 60 to split between crafts..
so, for instance, you have leathercraft at 100, and cloth at 60. if you skill up to lvl 61 clothcraft, your leathercraft level will drop to 99. armors are not included in the total 40 above the level. so if you took 4 craft skills to 70, you could get +2 on each of them from the armor, then raise 1 to 100, the rest will drop to 60+2 with the 2 armors :)

also, as for the difficulty of +1'ing a byrnie.. its not that difficult apparently (according to a few other high synthers) its just cost prohibitive being a 3,100,000g synth on siren server. and yes, i have a signed byrnie.. i havent made an attempt at another though.
RE: noob question
# Jun 12 2005 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
21 posts
maybe a mule? idk... or you misunderstood him
# May 24 2005 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
Okay I don't know about other jobs but I would have thought Haub is much better for sam than this as sam's main job is gaining TP and hitting the mob lets you get TP...

Haubergeon: Str+5 Dex+5 Acc+10 Att+10
Byrnie: Str+3 Dex-3 Att+20

So this is 10 att more attack for a loss of 8 dex, 2 str and 10 acc. I'd much prefer the large dex and acc gain than 10 att that can easily be made up from Ochiudo's kote or Spike earrings...

# Apr 09 2005 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
Alright I'm a DRK/WAR, and this is an awesome peice of eq, the +on atk helps and its looks awesome, i dont have to worry about the -3DEX because i use leaping boots, and i have about +30 acc, so when i use this i use sushi,Haubergeon i use cheifkabobs, its awesome
RE: Byrnie
# May 14 2005 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
If it didn't have -3 dex then you would have 3 more dex with your leaping boots. I hardly ever see people wear this, Haby is probably cheaper, and better for a DRK.
RE: Byrnie
# May 16 2005 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
419 posts
On Midgard this is about 1.2m cheaper than the Hauby.
RE: Byrnie
# May 14 2005 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
If it didn't have -3 dex then you would have 3 more dex with your leaping boots. I hardly ever see people wear this, Haby is probably cheaper, and better for a DRK.
# Mar 21 2005 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
OMG OMG OMG i bet no one will believe this but today me best friend jsut gave this to me... for free! if you're on siren server, any and every time u see blankx say thanks to him from me :P
RE: omgomgomg
# Apr 09 2005 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
107 posts
Congratulations! That certainly was nice of him.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 30 2005 at 10:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hmmm maybe ill level my crafting on this....
Farming Equips
# Jan 23 2005 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
215 posts
Buying this bad boy for my PLD once i hit 60, mostly just to farm and quest in. the extra attack will come in handy and its either this of a vermillion cloak...this wins for the soul reasons that it looks better, oh and i can equip headgear with this so i don't gotta give up my coronet!
All about how you play your job.
# Nov 18 2004 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
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ppl think that the haubergeon is way better then the byrnie. Why? Because they look at the -dex and -agi, then look at the +accuracy and think that this is the best of the two.

In a way it's true. The haubergeon would be a great body piece for sam because they need accuracy to DD (more hits, more WS, etc.). But then you can just equip sniper rings+1, dex rings and more acc+ up items. On the other hand, your just filling up your inventory slots because of this body piece. Yet, you do the same with the haubergeon.

I seriously see this body piece working best with war/nin, because most wars (me for example^^) use a Viking Axe as our sub, and before you start flaming me about gimping my job because of the low DMG, I've tested the dmg ratio on the sub weapon, and the dmg dif is hardly "gimped", in fact I hit more often with the viking axe. Anyways, my suggestion is, if you want to hit harder, get the byrnie sam. And I highly suggest you get Byrnie to all you war/nins^^

Oooo, srry for the edit but I forgot something. This is also good for ninjas, because of the +VIT and +atck, they can sacrifice a lil agi and dex for, just helps them keep hate. Of course, with nin, you can't keep hate with just brute STR and provoke, you need your ninjistu, but that's another story ^_~

Edited, Fri Dec 24 13:24:12 2004
RE: All about how you play your job.
# Mar 16 2005 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
look, i'm a ninja as main job and i hold hate without any ninjutsu except utsusemi. i have about str+12 and it helps alot. Most of the time i get hate from the thf SATA'ing onto me~ once im 60 im gonna get one of these and hopefully hold hate even more. I do more dmg than the sam in some parties and occasionally more than warrior. (Eris' Earrings also help much :P)

Edited, Mon Mar 21 21:44:19 2005
RE: All about how you play your job.
# Jan 19 2005 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
imo haubergeon is better (except for nin prolly, cuz of the -eva)

if u r a war using gaxe, u wont have a viking axe to give u more acc. i dunno how expensive snips +1 r on ur server, but on quetzalcoatl you cant 'just' get them, atm they r like 3.5mil, which is over twice the price of a haubergeon.

in the end i think that attack doesnt do much, if u cant hit the mob, which is why i personally prefer a haubergeon or at 69 Hauberk

Edited, Wed Jan 19 13:44:21 2005
RE: All about how you play your job.
# May 23 2005 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
Chances are, that if you are a war using a G-axe, then ninja won't be your sub. /MNK is much better for g-axe, and stack aggressor with focus and you more than make up for the haubergeon, add boost and the +20 attack from Byrnie to Raging Rush and watch the blood fly.

I sub both /mnk and /nin depending on what the skillchain is. In that case i would take the Byrnie because the haubby is too damned ugly to look at.
RE: All about how you play your job.
# Jan 20 2005 at 3:04 AM Rating: Good
358 posts
If you're a WAR/NIN you shouldn't be using a Gaxe.

If you're a WAR/NIN tank, this is much better than the Haubergon for the same reason that it's also better for NIN/WAR, it doesn't have that -10 evasion.
RE: All about how you play your job.
# Jan 22 2005 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
im not war/nin tank, im a dd, and as dd i prefer acc over att, and 10 acc 10 att is better for dd imo than 20 att
RE: All about how you play your job.
# Jan 27 2005 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
1,316 posts
lol, please read the subject name "All about how you play your job" Never said byrnie in every condition is better then haub for war/nin, I'm just stating that it's good for tanking. In fact, if you wanna be versatile (and if your rich) you should have two sets of eq: DD and tanking

EDIT: Forgot, Scorpion harness is good too (duh

Edited, Thu Jan 27 22:14:04 2005
# Oct 30 2004 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
86 posts
Leather 69
Smithing 55

Required to safely craft this item. Smithing 70 and Leather 90 would be a good idea to go for a +1 on this.
RE: craft
# Apr 03 2005 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
117 posts
Actually... the Smithing required for this is 44.

Edited, Sun Apr 3 06:59:04 2005
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