Arcana Breaker
Auction House: Weapons - Clubs Arcana Breaker
(Club) All Races DMG:34 DLY:324 Lv.54 WHM/GEOAdditional Effect vs. Arcana: Weakens Defense | Submit a correction Dropped off Mobs:
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to my knowledge, undead are the remains of the dead reanimated thru dark rituals and/or magicks. the only exeption being Fomors, who are fallen soldiers that come back because they were killed in an unjust way, and seek revenge. Arcana/arcanum has a few diferent meanings, one of which being a deep, closely held secret, mostly of a dark kind. the one use in the game for the mobs however, is the one that means of or having to do with magicks, mostly deemed as forbidden in some way. in this sense, arcana type mobs are a form of astral being, i assume, created from a concentrated flow of 'magic' in a given area (crag spines, elementals in focused weather, delkfutt's and fei'yin, etc.). they bear a similarity to fomors in that nothing seems to control them. lastly dolls and pots seem to differ because they are mechanical. my explanation is that they were built by some entity who studied how arcana-type mobs come to exist, and used that knowledge to merge technology with magic to make an independant being. these i cant determine whether they are controled or not. hope this gives people a broader way of looking at things ^^
"Arcana" is the plural of "arcanum", which is a deep secret or mystery. Also, undead supposedly become undead because they have regrets from their past lives, not because they're magically animated.
So, I'm thinking undead and arcana are opposed by what they are: the incarnations of remorse and the incarnations of devotion or some secret emotion. Basically, just the opposition of memories (*thinks empty for a moment...) For instance, the weapons, as stated ina previous post and from the DRK storyline, were used in battles and, afterwards, obtained a mind or spirit, then possessing the poor red creatures as their bodies. The emotions from that long-since-fought war could be the basis of opposition to the remorse from deeds undone by the undead. Maybe even that undead creature was in the war and that weapon was used to "kill" the now-undead.
*Also, someone posted about elementals not being arcana, but a class of their own, which is true, so I'd like to state that methinks Elementals oppose Empty.
Edited, Fri Dec 16 23:06:06 2005
So, I'm thinking undead and arcana are opposed by what they are: the incarnations of remorse and the incarnations of devotion or some secret emotion. Basically, just the opposition of memories (*thinks empty for a moment...) For instance, the weapons, as stated ina previous post and from the DRK storyline, were used in battles and, afterwards, obtained a mind or spirit, then possessing the poor red creatures as their bodies. The emotions from that long-since-fought war could be the basis of opposition to the remorse from deeds undone by the undead. Maybe even that undead creature was in the war and that weapon was used to "kill" the now-undead.
*Also, someone posted about elementals not being arcana, but a class of their own, which is true, so I'd like to state that methinks Elementals oppose Empty.
Edited, Fri Dec 16 23:06:06 2005
wo~ops
[ ^^;;;;;; ]
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Edited, Fri Dec 16 23:01:16 2005
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Edited, Fri Dec 16 23:01:16 2005
Scholar
17 posts
trouble is you hardly ever fight arcana in this game at lower levels
43 posts
tht tat so ugly even my 225 war would flinch
that is one facking freaky taru
that is one facking freaky taru
ok weapons are the the creatures used by the weapon itself, the weapons gain a life of theyre own when left on a old battle feild(or so the game has said anyways) they are drawn to magical power sources<thus y they hang out in the cermet structures that cunduct power from the crystals>, as for y arcanna and undead fight, id go with the fact that undead are the once dead and the arcanna are the magically created, as for y DRKs kill arcanna ppl say because we r like undead, does this mean plds r like arcanna? if so i demand the next pld i party with explode or meltdown...... im waiting.....
lol i like that guy
Scholar
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i tried it and i can affirm that :
- Weapons
- Dolls
- Golems
- Bombs
- Pots
are arcana.
And the effect works well :D
Edited, Fri Dec 31 10:50:08 2004
- Weapons
- Dolls
- Golems
- Bombs
- Pots
are arcana.
And the effect works well :D
Edited, Fri Dec 31 10:50:08 2004
The following also;
- Cardian
- Detector
- Mimic
Elementals apparently aren't Arcana - they seem to be their own type of being.
Also, in reference to one of the posts further down, Undead do "Oppose" Arcana. I think it's a case of the Undead vs. the Unalive ^_^
- Cardian
- Detector
- Mimic
Elementals apparently aren't Arcana - they seem to be their own type of being.
Also, in reference to one of the posts further down, Undead do "Oppose" Arcana. I think it's a case of the Undead vs. the Unalive ^_^
Plantoids > Beats > Lizards > vermin >|
^------------------<----------------------------
Aquans > Amorphs > Birds >|
^--------<-------------------------
Undead > Arcana >|
^-------<---------------
Dragons > Demons >|
^------<------------------
Hope that makes sence.
Edited, Mon Apr 18 18:46:25 2005
^------------------<----------------------------
Aquans > Amorphs > Birds >|
^--------<-------------------------
Undead > Arcana >|
^-------<---------------
Dragons > Demons >|
^------<------------------
Hope that makes sence.
Edited, Mon Apr 18 18:46:25 2005
lol I like the Undead v. Unalive but I'd argue for more an Magically Reanimated Life v. Magically Animated Unlife
Arcana = Ancient, so its anceint lookin junk, liek dolls, pots etc. thats one thing, but im sure XI has adifferent meaning
"Arcana" is the plural of "arcanum", which is a secret or mystery, not some "[ancient looking] junk."
And correct me if I'm wrong, but pots and dolls don't look too ancient.
I have an idea! let's try this weapon on Ancient Goobue or some ancient quadavs e,e
Edited, Fri Dec 16 19:37:18 2005
And correct me if I'm wrong, but pots and dolls don't look too ancient.
I have an idea! let's try this weapon on Ancient Goobue or some ancient quadavs e,e
Edited, Fri Dec 16 19:37:18 2005
#REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 17 2004 at 9:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) to clearify; for all those that just talk hot air
actually, you know, ive NEVER seen a bomb use magic to stay alive, or dolls. Make another theory please ^^ MINE > YOURS
Arkanum (Arkana is plural)
1. A deep secret; a mystery.
2. often arcana Specialized knowledge or detail that is mysterious to the average person: “knows the arcana of police procedure and the intricacies of litigation” (George F. Will).
3. A secret essence or remedy; an elixir.
1 seems to make the best sense, but meh, anything that looks old, or secrety is my guess.
Arkanum (Arkana is plural)
1. A deep secret; a mystery.
2. often arcana Specialized knowledge or detail that is mysterious to the average person: “knows the arcana of police procedure and the intricacies of litigation” (George F. Will).
3. A secret essence or remedy; an elixir.
1 seems to make the best sense, but meh, anything that looks old, or secrety is my guess.
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In referrence to the "magic to stay alive" comment...
There is some truth to that, I assume what he meant was " any mob that is based on magic or has magic based existence." The term "uses magic to stay alive" is a rough term. Anything in the game that was "created with magic or by magic means" applies to this, think summonings in a way. Arcana or arcane, or arcanum, however you put it means "of or relating to magic." So if a mob is summoned or created using magic means then yes I can understand that theory. But to just flame someone for throwing out an opinion is a little rude. So what if the person made a mistake in what he meant, it happens, people should put more thought into what was said instead of going off half cocked just because someone else made a mistake.
There is some truth to that, I assume what he meant was " any mob that is based on magic or has magic based existence." The term "uses magic to stay alive" is a rough term. Anything in the game that was "created with magic or by magic means" applies to this, think summonings in a way. Arcana or arcane, or arcanum, however you put it means "of or relating to magic." So if a mob is summoned or created using magic means then yes I can understand that theory. But to just flame someone for throwing out an opinion is a little rude. So what if the person made a mistake in what he meant, it happens, people should put more thought into what was said instead of going off half cocked just because someone else made a mistake.
Hmmmmmm *strokes chin* Would Argus be considered arcana? :p
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if you can find that NPC in bastok that shows you a connection diagram of the various beasts of vanadiel. He's in Bastok market somwhere. Also there's a different one in port windurst. I'm sure there's another in sandoria.
Well anyways, find him and look at the diagram. The picture for representing the arcana family of monsters is a weapon. Hope that solves any delima.
Well anyways, find him and look at the diagram. The picture for representing the arcana family of monsters is a weapon. Hope that solves any delima.
The San d'Orian one is in Northern San d'Oria by the upper level carpenter's guild.
The Bastokan one is on the wall to the west of the AH in Bastok Mines(a child galka in a corner, you can't miss it)
The Windurstan one is in one of the schools of magic. I believe it's Port Windurst, like you said, but it may be any one of them.
Edited, Sat Dec 17 19:27:12 2005
The Bastokan one is on the wall to the west of the AH in Bastok Mines(a child galka in a corner, you can't miss it)
The Windurstan one is in one of the schools of magic. I believe it's Port Windurst, like you said, but it may be any one of them.
Edited, Sat Dec 17 19:27:12 2005
Yeah, weapons are most definitely arcana. I'm a DRK and I've experienced the intimidation phenomenon first-hand.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Feb 22 2004 at 10:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) no i think wildrose is right i dont think weapons are arcana.........but i could be wrong =/
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jan 26 2004 at 8:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) meant to post this for simurgh..not this
Anonymous
b4 u go and even try, this NM is consider a very hard NM. Most likely require a full party of 70s or more. I seen *** websites saying it whopped 2 party of 50-60s.
Anonymous
It's called Arcana Breaker for a reason... the defense reduction effect on Arcana is insane. I was doing nearly double damage to Cursed Weapons.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 26 2004 at 11:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Gee, that's odd considering they aren't arcana class. Arcana are classified as "non-living objects" in XI. This dictates Cardians, Elementals, Magic Pots, and Orcish Warmachines primarly. (Maybe a few more I can't think of, those are the main ones.)
thats even more odd as they are.. lol, get your facts right please
Anonymous
weapons are also arcana
#Anonymous,
Posted: Feb 22 2004 at 10:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) no i think wildrose is right.I dont think weapons are arcana............but im not 100% sure so i could be wrong =/
Anonymous
Weapons are Arcana, Speaking as a 47 Drk who get the message, "The Weapon is intimidated by your presence" when soloing weapons.
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Alright now this is just to explain the Weapon creatures. I'm currently going thru DRK AF quests, and in the story that goes with it explains that the flesh and blood creature u see is not the true enemy. that is just a beast that has been possesed by the "Weapon" ( sword, wand, scythe, etc...) that is floating over its head. Doesnt explain Bombs.. in my eyes they are living. also, maybe its just me, but i've never "Intimidated" an Elemental in my entire career as a drk. make me question if they are arcana.
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