it does NOT cost 1 conquest point...and i doubt it gives +40 ranged acc along with the other stats, that would make it at least 4 times better than the musk. bolt and put knight arrow to infinate shame...im only saying that since there are no pictures and the other info is wrong. its also stupid that any other job besides ranger can use this since only rng gets US at lv51...
and i doubt it gives +40 ranged acc along with the other stats, that would make it at least 4 times better than the musk. bolt and put knight arrow to infinate shame...im only saying that since there are no pictures and the other info is wrong.
its stats are correct. except for the CP cost, its a rank 7 item.
If you do a /equip ammo (leaving it empty) then do /equip ammo "regular ammo" it will guarantee that you will never, ever, under any circumstance shoot off your PPA, even if you run out of your normal ammo. Because if you just do /equip "regular ammo" into your macro, if you've run out of that ammo, the PPA will remain equipped and you will shoot it off.
so i had mine for about 3 days and shot it off on accident. learned from my mistake and designed a great macro setup. I used to have alt1 be /ra <t> and then i would have macros that change which ammo i am using. I got the bright idea to just throw a /ra <t> in after each of the ammo changes. So now everytime i shoot, the macro makes sure i am shooting what i want, i.e. demons or bodkins. for the WS i have a macro "/recast "Unlimited Shot"", if it is up i hit the macro: /equip ammo "PPA" /equip ammo "PPA" (for lag reasons) /ja "Unlimited shot" /ja "unlimited shot" /sh "my shout line" /ws "Sidewinder" <t>
if Unlimited shot isnt up i hit the regular sidewinder macro that automatically equips a demon arrow before. havnt lost my new one with this setup yet. hope it helps. -Snipe
Go here and fill this out and tell them they should make PPA and GMB have a latent effect of ranged attack activated by having Unlimited Shot active. :P
Edit: this is what i wrote in case anyone was wonderin what to write.
In light of the recent update modifying items such as Bomb Core not being able to be thrown. I would like to suggest you add the same thing to at least two more ammo items: Patriarch Protectors Arrow and Gold Muskateer's Bolt. Perhaps put on a latent effect that allows them to be fired when Unlimited Shot is active. This is the only reason these two pieces of ammo exist. Not to be thrown away.
With the addition of the new areas, it's a snail's pace to get more conquest points once you get a job past 65. If it weren't for these two things, i wouldn't be saying this, as I believe in the way the game works. But since those two things are now in play, I believe these pieces of ammo should be given another look.
Just a question before I do something totally moronic, does Unlimited Shot stack with Barrage or just with weapon skills? I'd hate to get one of these and try the above with no knowledgebase.
No Unlimited Shot and Barrage do not stack in fact they will overwrite each other if they are used in succesion with whatever the last ability that was used is.
Note, the new ability <Flashy Shot> does not overwrite barrage or unlimited shot. I don't think that barrage gets effected by it though, and flashy won't wear off until you make a normal shot or a ranged weapon skill. I've still yet to get this arrow... I've been sitting @ rank 6 for around a year now. Think I'm going to work towards that soon, and pump up that Sidewinder damage! =D
I am going to be 60 rng in a couple levels and I want to make a good US / PPA macro. I was going to use this, does anyone see a flaw with it?
Macro 1: Normal Ranged Attack /equip ammo "Scorpion Arrow" /ra <t>
Macro 2: US + PPA /ja "Unlimited Shot" <me> /equip ammo "Patriarch Protector's Arrow"
Macro 3: Sidewinder /p Using {Sidewinder}! /wait 1 /ws "Sidewinder" <t> /equip ammo "Scorpion Arrow" /equip ammo "Scorpion Arrow"
I included the 2nd equip Scorp arrow, because under lagging conditions sometimes it doesn't do the whole macro correctly, so it is just in case. Anyone see any problems I might have with this macro set up?
ok this is the macro that i use for PPA saves alot of time and i still haven't lost it yet.
First off you need 2 SW macros and a normal US macro name one PPASW *this will be the macro you use with US* and other SW *this will be ur all purpose sidewinder*:
for PPASW macro goes as follows:
US: ja "Unlimited Shot" <me> *simple enough*
PPASW: /equip ammo "PPA" /ws "Sidewinder" <t> /wait 2 /equip ammo "normal arrow" /echo *normal arrow* equipped.
SW: /ws "Sidewinder" <t> *another simple one*
not really rocket science i've used this macro set about 500 times and never lost my PPA.
ok, i take no credit for this macro set, as i found it on the Alla RNG forum. i cant remember the name of the OP, but props to him for thinking up a flawless system!
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shooting regular arrows:
/equip Ammo "Regular Ammo" /wait 1 /shoot <t>
unlimited shot: (if you dont get the animation for US, you DO NOT load your PPA. this gets rid of the possibility of losing a PPA due to paralysis)
/ja "Unlimited Shot" <me>
loading the PPA: (this gives you five seconds to use your sidewinder macro before unequipping the PPA)
/equip Ammo "PPA" /echo ~~Locked and Loaded~~ /wait 5 /equip Ammo /echo ~~PPA Removed~~
Sidewinder:
/p sidewinder now! /wait 1 /ws "Sidewinder" <t> /equip Ammo /echo ~~Ready for Regular Ammo~~
Barrage: (this one seems to get a lot of people, as theyll use a US/PPA macro and forget about it, then use barrage and shoot off their precious arrow! >.< with /equip at the end, there's no way to make that mistake)
/ja Barrage <me> /wait 1 /ja Sharpshot <me> /equip Ammo
once again, this is not my own creation. but i humbly thank the person who came up with it. i love this macro set!
Hmm.. While reading through the macros i noticed you say,
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loading the PPA: (this gives you five seconds to use your sidewinder macro before unequipping the PPA)
/equip Ammo "PPA" /echo ~~Locked and Loaded~~ /wait 5 /equip Ammo /echo ~~PPA Removed~~
Well in my experience if i were to use something like this and during the wait 5 use another macro, then wouldn't that macro cancle out this macro and just fire sidewinder? and not unequip it? Not sure if thats right but thats what happens to me when i use 2 macros.
You're absolutely right, macros cancel eachother out. But what could be done though with the mentioned macro is to trigger Sidewinder manually which I personally always do unless I'm opening a skillchain or closing it with SATA+WS as THF.
I've waited for a month for Windy to be in last place. Now I go to Windy and the gate guards won't sell me anything. Was this changed in recent updates? Does anyone know?
i just bought some stuff from the gate guard in sandy today. make SURE youre talking with the taru with the WW after his name. otherwise, i cant understand why you cant get it.
Something simple that I did on all of my spells as a whm was <stnpc>.
It's fairly simple. Set up your entire macro as you were, but on sidewinder:
/ws "Sidewinder" <stnpc>
What it will do is give you a little blue targeting arrow. If you wanted you can bounce through all the mobs in the area, but it defaults to the npc you are targeting. Hit okay again, and you shoot.
You can very simply target the mob, equip the arrow, activate unlimited, ready your sidewinder. if for whatever reason unlimited did NOT go off, you can cancel out of the sidewinder and try for unlimited again.
Doable, but I don't see how this is better than macros. Just hit unlimited macro, wait till you see it go off. Hit WS macro that equips this arrow. If you don't have unlimited, hit your WS macro that uses some other arrow. You should also have a recast macro for unlimited shot and sharp shot, at the very least. This is a total of 4 macros...not really that bad. I think it's worth going for a separate unlimited shot macro just in case of lag, instead of putting it within the patriarch WS macro.
You better avoid using the PP arrow (or the bolt) against mobs using AE paralyze, or doing so with great care...
The /recast doesn't alas give any info about wether you managed to successfully activate Unlimited Shot or not in this case, since even if you were "unable to use the job ability" because of paralyze, the recast time becomes 3:00 nonethless. Thought that was worth mentionning since it is a case where just checking the /recast "Unlimited Shot" (wich I actually include in my unlimited shot macro) isn't enough.
Aahh, glad you brought this up. Paralysis can make an otherwise flawless action (or macro) become totally screwed up. Losing Barrage or Sharpshot to paralysis is bad enough, but looking at your Unlimited Shot counter, seeing 0, and kicking off one of the macros that doesn't allow you to stop if Unlimited Shot fails... eew. That's just not fun to think about.
On another note, I just hit Rank 7 this past week, and have 50k Conquest Points, so if Windurst is in last tomorrow (and it looks like they will be), the PPA is mine!
I'll be sure to post regarding how well it works in parties, whether the Ranged Accuracy +40 is really noticeable, and how strong the resultant paralysis is (and its duration). Also since I'm not terribly clear on how to get it or how much more (if any) it costs because I'm from Bastok, I'll post about that, too.
*crosses fingers* *goes to sleep like a 6 year old on Christmas Eve*
Get a grand knights arrow if your from sandy, if your a rng from bastok, then you get jacked, and gotta buy grand knights or patriacrh from sandy or windy. Though i may be wrong and bastok might have one of these insano arrows also.
Bastok has something that some would say is better than either of these. They have a killer bolt. And who would use the grand knights arrow? Really? Lol.
k.. im not to the point yet where i can use this arrow.. but very very soon.. and im wondering being from sandoria.. what are the situational stats in conquest that will allow me to get this arrow from the npc in windy.. also bein that im from sandy im guessin that it will cost a bit more.. can anyone in a similar boat shed some light on this question thanks..
This is no stroke of genius, but I've developed a rather simple two-macro way of using your PPA WS with unlimited shot without any significant risk of losing it.
These macros assume you're like me: You use Iron Arrows instead of more expensive ones and just shoot as much as possible.
That's all. The thing that makes this macro superior to the others that have been posted here is this: Assuming you're using a longbow (Delay of 450 or higher), you'll never be able to shoot your PPA without Unlimited Shot on.
If Unlimited Shot isn't ready (You must wait longer to use that ability), or doesn't activate because you're doing something else (Unable to use job ability), you will still equip the PPA. However, you have a full six seconds to make sure Unlimited Shot activated (whether you want to check it in the log, watch for the animation, or just look for errors) before you use that Sidewinder macro. The only time you'd ever shoot off your PPA by accident is under one of two conditions: 1) You don't check to make sure Unlimited Shot activated within that 6 seconds 2) You use a different macro during that 6 seconds, stopping the PPA macro from re-equipping your cheap arrows
Ultimately, no macro set can be fully secure from human flaw, because macros can't have an "if... then" procedure, but I think this is the simplest and most secure of what's been listed so far.
For added security, I also suggest you make a recast macro if you haven't already. I've been using one since /recast was created and I find it infinitely useful
Note that the Unlimited Shot recast is at the end of the list, since that's the only one of massive importance. You won't want to use your PPA macro until you've checked the recast on Unlimited Shot.
Now, after having put all of that down, and said how great the macro is, I'll tell you that I don't do it that way. Here's how I do it:
Subtle difference, but it makes a Ranger with a watchful eye be much faster with his PPA WS. In this case, the recast timer shows up right after you use Unlimited Shot. So, if the recast that's displayed in the log isn't 2:55 or more, you know you need to wait the 3 seconds for the re-equip, because Unlimited Shot didn't work. The other good thing about this system is that if you're fumbling around your macros and hit this one by accident, it takes less time to re-equip the cheap arrows, so that reduces the risk of killing off your PPA.
I probably don't need to mention this, but you should practice with an arrow other than the PPA before you go ******** around with macros involving its firing. I hope that both myself and the other posters here make it explicitly clear that you will NOT be happy if you lose an arrow worth 32000 Conquest Points (roughly equivalent to 80,000 gil, or more if you remember that you can't buy CP, you have to earn it). Especially if you have to wait till Windurst is in last place again to buy another.
Hope I helped a bit. Oh, and one other thing. When you hit level 60 Ranger, I suggest you use the Sarnga bow. Even though its damage is little more than the War Bow +1 and its delay is significantly more, you'll find it does a lot more damage for your weaponskills, and gives you a lot more TP for that delay. In the case of bows and guns, the more delay the better, because when it comes to Barrage and weaponskills... delay doesn't matter anyway.
currently a 57 rng. i setup the macros for unlimited shot as soon as i got it, to practice for having the patriarch arrow. i used lightning arrows in its place for now, just to make sure i can get the hang of it.
the post a couple above was correct, i set up quite a similar one after some failed experiments. do not... do NOT put the equip, unlimited shot, and the ws in the same macro. doing that is just asking for trouble.
this ensures that i will never wasted my lightning arrow. if i use the macro before the recast time is up, by accident, i can simply change the arrow back, without ever firing it.
i will swap lightning arrow with the patriarchs arrow when the time comes. after 2 failed macro attempts early on, i have kept the same 1 lightning arrow for 6 levels straight (51-57). the macro works wonderfully, i have no doubt it would work fine with the good arrow.
really i don't know waht else to say. i think i would have to use "unlimited shot" a whole heck of a lot before i was comfortable using that arrow with it. I'd be SOOOO afraid of losing the thing by accident!!
Is there a way to purchase this arrow with conquest points from another kingdom? i have about 28000 conquest points from sandoria, and i want to buy this arrow but it from windurst. someone told me i can buy it from windurst if windurst is in last place for land control and that i have to pay rank 8 price for it? Can somone find out if this is true? Thanks
yes, you can buy other Nations CP gear when they're in last place. Just head to one of their Gate Guards and spend the CP like you would for your nation. It does cost a certain amount more though.
You pay the CP price for items 1 rank higher than the item you are buying, which would be rank 8 in this case. Your nation has to be ranked higher than that nation in conquest for that week.
Is there a way to purchase this arrow with conquest points from another kingdom? i have about 28000 conquest points from sandoria, and i want to buy this arrow but it from windurst. someone told me i can buy it from windurst if windurst is in last place for land control and that i have to pay rank 8 price for it? Can somone find out if this is true? Thanks