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Scroll of Utsusemi: Ni
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NIN Lv.37
Teaches the ninjutsu Utsusemi: Ni.
Uses the ninja tool, "Shihei." Creates shadow images that each absorb a single attack directed at you.

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# Jan 17 2009 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
This Method: 95% of the time, it works every time.

Jobs: 3 x BLM/NIN (preferably capped sub for boosted stats. Just in case.)

Items to bring: One yagudo drink for each one of you, every round. (If each of you have an orb, bring 3.)

Shihei (the whole point of the method.)

Pies (You want a lot of MP and INT. Obv.)

Gear: Dual wield some HQ INT wands or something. (I'm not sure if they're better than the staves, because of level synch)

A lot of RSE/Seer's

Strategy: As soon as you enter the BCNM, cast Utsusemi. Reraise if you want (just in case.) Hike up to the arena, and get close to the edge of it (Don't get too close!) Pick an exact time on the game clock to inform your party to start casting (it's important to synch up, so you kill off the two grunt Hecteyes.)

But before you start casting, drink your juice and use Elemental Seal (also important.) When the clock hits the time you selected, all of you begin casting your best -aga spell on the big guy in the middle.

When your spells land, immediately start casting your next best -aga spell. (Thundaga for most level 40 mages.) If your shadows are down, recast them at the next safest opportunity. (Preferably when you have no hate)

Keep sending off your next best spells, until every one of the bastards are dead.

If at any point you require Manafont, I suggest you use it!

We broke the record every time we did it over the next few weeks.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2009 2:05pm by EtherealTwilight
# May 08 2009 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
407 posts
I agree on this method, have done it several times. The only exception is that we all subbed /whm so we could cure ourselves/eachother when needed.
I have gotten two pcc's this way so far, plan to get more sometime.
# Jul 15 2008 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
anyone know which of the bcnm for this are the easiest to do
# Jul 15 2008 at 3:59 PM Rating: Default
Under Observation
# Mar 18 2008 at 12:17 AM Rating: Default
wich bcnm has the best drop rate for this scroll? been trying for mouths to get it and no luck
# May 03 2009 at 5:25 PM Rating: Default
Royal Jelly has the highest chance of this scroll dropping with a total of 32.5% chance of dropping one Uts: Ni scroll and a 7.3% chance of it dropping 2 scrolls in one run. As for difficulty... you need the right set up, as 1 RDM and 2 DRG's we did it with ease.

My Strategy:
I was the Red Mage. I entered and buffed up with Protect II, Shell II, Aquaveille, and Stoneskin then I through a Shell II to each of the DRG. I used a Yag drink and healed to near full mp (Though I never got lower then 100 MP every time). We then charged up the tunnle the DRG in the lead. Once to the circle I ran to the right while the DRG took the left. They did their thing and I binded, gravitied the jellys from left to right gravitying one,binding another and silencing any of them. I kept going and occasionally cured them. It was very easy.
# Jul 20 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
40 posts
Anyone know if any of the BCs that drop this are do-able by a 30WAR/NIN or 30PLD or 40PLD? I need Utsusemi: Ni and I don't have the money by a longshot.
# Jul 26 2007 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
yes royal succession is very much doable with a PLD.It is doable with many different jobs.
# Jul 26 2007 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
royal succesion is very much a PLD bcnm.This bcnm is good because it isn't as job dependant as other bcnm.
# Jul 26 2007 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
yes royal succesion bcnm40 is very much a PLD job.I like this bcnm because it is doable by many different jobs.
under oberservation bcnm
# May 14 2007 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
it is confirm that Under observation bcnm 40 will no longer drop utsusemi ni anymore.I ever got peacock charm together with utsusemi ni total worth bout 5mil on my orb^^ lucky~
under oberservation bcnm
# May 20 2007 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
Well, carlynie, you are incorrect I just obtained the scroll of Utsusemi: Ni from Under Observation! 24% Moon phase.
# Nov 18 2006 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
today i went and did worms turn 5 times Ni dropped the first,second,fourth,and fifth orbs @ 62% waning crescent
Average Drops rate?
# Oct 31 2006 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
I have done Worm Turns twice now and Royal Jelly eight times, and I have yet to see the scroll drop. >_< Its getting rather frustrating with thing preventing me from leveling NIN any further. Does anyone have any idea what the average drop rate is on this bugger?
# Oct 21 2005 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
Can anyone tell me why i'm only getting 3 shadows with utsu: ni???? I've checked extensively and yes, im only getting 3.
I'm not talking about utsu: ichi and im not mistaken. that's right, just 3 ><
God hates u
# Jul 16 2006 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
Clearly in some way u must be mistaken either that or god hates u one of the 2
RE: ><
# Dec 06 2005 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
57 posts
Erm... sorry guy, but you're only supposed to get 3. Ni doesn't give you any more than Ichi.

If you're maybe wondering, 'what's the point then?', here it is: Ni is an extra shadow spell, so instead of waiting for the Ichi timer to go down, you can cast this one to fill in the gaps, making you a more effective tank.

The casting time for Ni is much shorter, but the downside is it has a longer cooldown period. (45 seconds, I believe)
RE: ><
# Dec 27 2005 at 1:05 AM Rating: Good
Actually, you are mistaken, Utsusemi: Ni gives you 4 shadows as NIN main, but only 3 shadows as NIN sub.


Edited, Tue Dec 27 01:13:09 2005
im a sexy taru on shiva
# Oct 09 2005 at 7:32 PM Rating: Default
utsusemi ni has a 1.5 casting time and grants you 4 shadows.

utsusemi ichi has a 3 second (or so) casting time giving you three shadows.

Utsusemi: Ni when casted WILL overwrite Utsusemi: Ichi shadows. meaning you will have 4 fresh shadows only.

Utsusemi Ichi: overwrites utsusemi: ichi but not utsusemi: ni.

i am not sure if utsusemi: ni overwrites utsusemi: ni.

im a sexy taru on shiva
# Sep 27 2007 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
Yes it does ^^
RE: im a sexy taru on shiva
# Dec 08 2005 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
miss post

Edited, Thu Dec 8 21:27:08 2005
gil gil and more gil
# Aug 02 2005 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
all i here is this scroll go's for alot of money and money i dont have ; ;
Drops and Prices
# Aug 02 2005 at 4:46 AM Rating: Decent
436 posts
Ever since the most recent BIG Update, people have been doing BCNMs like crazy in hopes of getting Archer's Rings and Peacock Charms, causing an overflow of Utsusemi:Ni and Erase on the AH. Erase used to go for 500K, now it's 390K. Utsusemi used to be 800K-1 mil, now? how about 350K for you._. That is just sad...Still, it's gil tho, so no biggy ^^

btw, that's how it is on Ragnarok, idk about your server.

Edited, Tue Aug 2 05:55:03 2005
RE: Drops and Prices
# Mar 10 2006 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
wait a minute??? are you complaining that the prices are going down for these scrolls? your just greedy and crazy
RE: Drops and Prices
# Feb 03 2006 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
57 posts
Wow! On Fairy utusemi is still millions. 2-3 million for ichi and I forgot exactly what ni is, but you can imagine from the price of ichi! I need to migrate to a cheaper server XD
# Jun 24 2005 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
First BCNM today and I go this. Currently selling for about 1mil on Hades :D
RE: w00t
# Jul 12 2005 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
68 posts
1,250,000 on Caitsith :P
# Jun 20 2005 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
90 posts
Any thoughts on which is the best BCNM to fight to get this? I have done the Fei'Yin BCNM twice and no drop.

The setup I am currently using is Pld/War, Mnk/War, Whm/Blm
# Jun 19 2005 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
1.1 mil on kujata now :/
# Jun 04 2005 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
181 posts
One Million Gil on Cerberus ; ;
Utsusemi: Ni
# Apr 29 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
82 posts
You guys were all lucky.
Utsusemi: Ni sells on Leviathan for 800k
Quite a pretty penny :/
Ichi and Ni
# Feb 26 2005 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
33 posts
I'm sure alota of you know but for yous that dont, Ichi = 1 in japanese Ni = 2
RE: Ichi and Ni
# May 07 2005 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
thank you, i have always wondered what the deal was with Ichi and Ni being the same spells but different ending and a higher lvl to use.
RE: Ichi and Ni
# Jun 17 2005 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
829 posts
Does San = 3?
RE: Ichi and Ni
# Jul 03 2005 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
yon/shi=4, go=5, roku=6, nanas/hichi=7, hachi=8, ku/kyu=9, ju=10

for those that are curious...
RE: Ichi and Ni
# Oct 07 2008 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
I thought Kyu means Rank.
RE: Ichi and Ni
# Mar 27 2006 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
74 posts
Actually, 7 is nana/shichi. :P
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 23 2005 at 4:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you never heard of BCNM match b4 then i would suggest not doing it, cause u will probably be a main reason for the rest of the party dying in it.
RE: bcnm matches
# Feb 23 2005 at 4:09 PM Rating: Decent
This is probably the most retarded thing i've ever heard from someone's mouth. First off how do you think it was when you first did bcnm? you weren't all too smart either were ya? That and you can run through bcnm 3-6 times or maybe even more depending on the amount of ppl which gives the "rookie" time to learn and get used to how things work. So yeah once again i say that's the most retarded thing i've heard from someone in a while.
# Jan 17 2005 at 3:37 AM Rating: Excellent
The price on Gilgamesh is kinda werid about 2-4 months ago Ichi was like 200ish then jumped to 350kish and Ni was like 400k now is 120k =/

Kat Powah!
lucky %^#&$
# Jan 11 2005 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
665 posts
you guys are so lucky, i couldnt buy it for 400k today... stupid update is gonna kill this game
price in ragnarok
# Dec 22 2004 at 4:54 AM Rating: Default
this scroll sells forr about 200k on ragnarok server. my first BCNM and i get it ^^
im a happy taru now heheh
Steamed Sprouts
# Dec 20 2004 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
805 posts
Edit: BCNM40 Steamed Sprouts still drops Utsusemi Ni

Edited, Tue Dec 21 04:03:54 2004
# Dec 05 2004 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
90-100k on Asura now. Thank god the price inflated days before I went to do BCNM ^^.
RE: Ouch
# Dec 13 2005 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
1,465 posts
change that, it is 600-800k now. i hate farming to get it. and it sucks not having the jobs people want to do the bcnm
Re: Where
# Nov 21 2004 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
Check around on your server before selling this item.
on the Phoenix server this item sells for 30k in San'Doria and Bastok but it goes for 200k+ in jeuno this is price of last ten sales not just random drops
in price! i did bcnm with ls and a friend sold it for 30k and we got another one up for 200 now hope it sells ><

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what is the best BCNM to gget this from?
# Nov 08 2004 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
My nin should be high enough level to use this by the end of the week. What BCNM do you think is easier to get this scroll from?
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