what a piece of $#!% and waste of gil... if you want Mog enhancement experience, Get a bronze bed lol, or a nobles bed. (thats expensive too but at least U can get Mog expansion 3 quest)
this bed is 1 mil and does nothing but look fancy in your MH, and ppl cant visit your mog house in the game (so you cant show it off, unless you screenshot it and show it off here)
LOL well now u can visit mog house but it also has 24 aura strength with dark crystal which is prolly good for crafting with dark crystals....there is prolly more known with this bed then meets the common mortal eye too
right now it's 5M on Titan. I've had it on the AH for about 3 weeks, but hasn't sold yet. Don't think it ever WILL sell. I think i'm just going to bite the bullet and /sh in Jeuno for 3M -_-
B4 even try to synt it, i wanted to be sure if this is the right lev. so, wood87,cloth59,gold54 can somebody who synt one can confirm that its the right level of guild. thx for answering, i apreciate it
And unlimited space if you use your delivery box and return to sender your own items to yourself... and you save the $1 a month SE charges you for each mule... but thats one cool display of mathematics, hurray!
Actually, I'm not totally sure that you have to HP to get this effect, if you read the actual notes on Moghancement Experiance, it says that it reduces the XP lost when you die, not when you HP, and with the XP loss cap at 2400, and with a Raise 3, you lose 260xp exactly (Raise 3 gives you back 90% of what you loss, NOT 99%!!! I've tested it, Raise 2 you lose 600xp, Raise 1 you lose 1800xp AT XP LOSS CAP) but yeah, anyway, I think that they might just stack. I'll test it someday with a Raise3a and post the results (Will probably only use a Nobles or something that I can borrow)
Experience Moghancement elements at weak will get you %5 xp back at moderate %10 at strong %15 strong is the max
I only have 12 simple beds in my MH and I have strong element.
and you can combine Experience Moghancement and raise. I get %15 + %25 = %40 with raise 1, %50 + %15 = %65 with raise 2 never tried it with raise 3 so i dont know what it would do.
as proof I did a test with all three levels and calculated the resaults.
ex: I needed 2000 xp I had 1600 xp, with out Mog Enh XP and raise 1 i would have ended up with 1400 instead with raise %25 + %15 i actually had 1480 so I got 80 xp back. 200 - 80 = 120 80 is %40 of 200 so I lost 120xp.
at lev 56 I lost 2000 xp, with raise 2 50% + Mog XP %15 = %65 I got 1300 xp back thats only a loss of 700
Your facts and subsequently your math are a little off for Raise II. Raise II gives back 75% of experience lost, not 50%. As a quick (albeit unnecessary example), the max exp. loss is 2400 past level 60. Get a Raise II at those levels and you will receive get 1800 exp back, or 600 lost total.
If Moghancement experienced stacked with Raise II, the experienced gained back with an overwhelming energy would be 90% - the same as Raise III. Your 65% just doesn't add up.
A guy in Jeuno said he had 124 slots using royal bed....
Not sure if its the real deal, and 124 seems kind of an odd number?!?
...maybe he means with storage as well, but even with the 80 slots from nobles bed, 44 is a heck of an amount of storage as well!! ;)
Maybe there is an event like when the simple bed gives you 4 chunks of ore...? There must be something, or it wouldnt be worth having, let alone the price it costs >:(
I also think that the nobles bed + royals bed would mean you lost less xp when you die, as you get a certain strength of element which is increased with more of the same element, therefore increasing the power of the element?? I havent been able to test this theory, and dont fancy dying a few times just to check, but it does work like that with all other elements, so I cant see why this would be any different?
i have this bed with R 3 i lose under 250 xp per death at lvl 75, not sure what i lose without it dont want to die just to find out lol hope this helps if ur 75 mabey u wont mind taking a death to find out if this is worth getting for yourself.
It has moghancement strength of 24, which relates both to the effectiveness of moghancement exp and determining which moghancement you get from your furniture layout. Noble's bed has moghancement strength of 12. So this bed reduces exp loss more than any other, but it is alos a damascene cloth that could be put towards a vermillion cloak...
The effectiveness of moghancements do not stack, exp loss is determined by the highest strength bed in your layout, so having a noble's bed and a royal bed would not save you any more exp than just a royal bed.
Well i have read your posts and i have the money to buy this thing(2mil) OooOOoo. Anyway i cannot find this thing anywhere! I need it and i am willing to pay BIG MONEY!! So if you have one or know someone who does, i am willing to buy! I am on the Siren Server Revolverx send me a tell.
In addition to an additional MH quest, does having it increase the MH Enhancement of reducing XP lost during "death?" I notice the other beds are STG:1 while this bed is STG:2
I'm now in my late 50s and saving XP during death would be an advantage!
This is my estimate on level requirements for crafting this item.
We know that woodworking 87 is required, so let's examine the other materials involved, shall we?
Gold Ingot -- made at Gold 50, used in gold recipes 58-103 Ruby -- made at gold 20, used in gold recipes 82-95
Damascene Cloth -- dropped, used in cloth recipes 70-74 Gold Thread -- made at cloth 58, used in cloth recipes 59-100 Silk Cloth -- made at cloth 53, used in cloth recipes 62-95
Seems to me that cloth needs to be around 70, since the Damascene Cloth is your most valuable ingredient, and Gold doesn't even need to be over 60. Just be sure to caft on Earthday or Lightningday with guild support. This is one synth you do NOT want to fail! ^^
rumor has it that this bed is used for the 4thand final mog house upgrade quest. That is all Ive heard about it and I honestly dont beleive it, So I'll just say it to get peole thinking ;)
It would make sense, and it ould be really hard to know anyways seeing only 3 have ever sold in jeuno on Bahamut. I really don't have 2 million gil nor is one on sale for me to 100% confirm or deny such a rumor.
Damascene Cloth x1 was not available on AH when i looked for it drevv, and those that sold went for 2.4-2.8 million each. I assume there going to vermillion cloaks (which use 3 and go for 7-7.9mil) funny thing is the royal (HQ version) was only 8mil. neither I would buy at that price. I do have a LS mate that said that this was also unavailable and later said he got one finally. Not sure what he paid for it though.
iv only seen this once i think on server 1 in bastok kind of an odd place to sell 1 i i think but i been looking for this and there are none to be found on any of the other servers i been on
sorry in a rush i know this post probably is useless just wanted to say what i know about it
This bed as well as all of the others just reduces the amount of xp u lose when you die. The exception here is much less lost xp and also +2 space in your mog house.
wrong and wrong. This works in conjunction with anything else so if you get a raise its the bed and the raise that figures in your xp loss. Also it is actually a decent ammount, up to 400+ with no raise so add a raise on it and you could potentially lose only 300xp at 55+ (which btw xp loss is capped at 2.4k and not some huge figure)
This was all explained on a post on the main forum but obviously there is a lot of missinformation going around about it.