I definetly agree with megapoopile (>.> nice name lol). i know people that have been playing this game for about 3 years and still don't have their relic weapons. Although i don't see any monks on the ifrit server with the monk relic lol but yes SE made this for a reason and that was to challenge the people of ffxi. do you expect for the best pair of hand-to-hand weapons in the game to be easy to acquire?
I don't really understand why people always post on forums just to flame people. Don't you have better things to do like learn proper spelling and grammar? Just a thought, how about you get the weapon before you say it sucks. A lot of things people take for fact, are just hearsay. I congratulate anyone who has relic weapons. Whether you had to buy gil for part of it or not, what is anyone gonna do? "You bought gil. People stand by while the world all gangs up on you and pwns you cuz you ruined the game for everybody. Onoes!" If someone buys gil, it's not awesome super cools or anything, but you can't stop them. You can give them a hard time, but they just rate you down. You hurt yourself when you flame people, and you waste your time. I don't post very often, but I like to keep my posts clean, flame free, and flame retardant. Good day.
Stfu and gtfo, you guys destroy the game with your opinions. Stats, Info only, not your crapy damage record or crying about mnk having it and going ninja insted. KK have fun. (don't want to waste my time on your whining asses)
Anyone try tanking with the enhance counter effect? Any numbers on how often it procs? These look like a great weapon for a varity of combat. Of course there is faith b. and destroyers, but is the time and effort to get these worth it? Idk if someone has all 3 and has parsed them with different set-ups, I'd be curious to know the results.
A Mnk with: destroyers + shura body / osode + turban / ohat / shura head + str/dex rings + b. hadaite + fuma / dune boot + af / b. kote + brn/blk belt + str/dex/atk earings + merits in str, counter, 2x atk, HP, crits
This set up works great for spam style xp, and I never have a problem with dmg output. (War/nin with riddil / joy / maneater + adaman harb are right there on dmg if not top) But really once you get past xp chain500 @ 17k+ xp/hr is there a point to the massive dynamis grind for relic h2h? Maybe full merit tanking mnk counter / -phy dmg / guard skill could counter tank with these? Why break tradition on jorm, faf, vtra, etc idk.
Just some questions and thoughts for all you vultures to pick apart. :)
no it's not better , and it's not "Narishma" it's "Nashira" and shura is not 3 pieces it's 5 so should've been 3/5 or 5/5 (i highly doubt that you even play the game) nad yeah SE would'nt allow a LS named "SoFukinUber" to exist they would ask the leader to break it. please buy the game and play it instead of posting crap in Allakhazam.
that depends... if your gil is too gimp to buy +DEX and +STR... and you dont have time to merit, then the destroyers would be the worst possible choice to make lol
I was reading some of these posts and I get a kick out of them. Funny how people argue and go on and on around the same stuff. Thanks everyone for giving me 5 minutes of amusement. Keep it up!
ive seen this in action and was saddened TBH, the time put into it is not worth it, this was in ballista though where the 3x dmg cant proc. atleast in ballista i say faiths > these by alot.
maby my mind could be changed on them if i was to see them in xp, sadly the mnk on my server who has them ive never seen xp since he gots maxed merits ;; and the thing that really makes me cry is that hes on nin more than mnk at ballista now a days.
im personally going to try for scythe now after seeing these, they arent to great of upgrade over destroyers from what i hear, xp wise, and in ballista faiths are way better. scythe though has drain 1/4 hp ontop of ws and i hear it does 1k dmg usually on hnm at 100% tp which is crazy. + the haste it gives makes it super fast anyways. and yes i know this isnt scythe forums lol i just got onto ranting from being let down....
WTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ???? and what can't proc in ballista ?? i think your a lv10 MNK whos regretting leveling MNK to 10 coz it took u long time and don't hit for 9999 DMG like FF7 and you can't use your game shark, so you decided to lv DRK to get Apocalypse from Jeuno AH (when you reach it). one word "Uninstall"
somthing tells me in 10 years Square wont be supporting the servers anymore =P.
On topc. These are beautiful, +23 dmg is very nice. I am not to fond of the delay but what can ya do? These things are somthing i will probably never have, but for those that do put the time into getting them i say they deserve it. Good job and Gratz to the people that have obtained this item ^^
Is it true that the more you use Final Heavan, the stronger it gets? I'm thinking it must cap at a certain amount, otherwise it would be powerful beyond belief. Then again, seeing how much trauma people have to go through to acquire these, it sorta seems like a fair trade.
im sure this is untrue, i ve been told final heaven is just a horrible attack overall, the weapon is beautiful tho... sadly, most ofthese special weapon skill suck
to all of you who have been rippin the guy who said he bought gil on the last stage give it a break anyone who can devote 11 months to getting just one item deserves some kind of break and if you think he's some worthless @$$hole then lets see your spharai that you worked on for a year.
man back off that guy u f@g's are just mad cause you aint got one who cares how he got i know if i could get my full relic i would man so **** off and i did buy gil one day right before the price of emp jumped and bought one and i just sold it for 9.7m
This is probably the best Relic weapon in the game for soloing next to the Excalibur/Aegis combo, but who's heard of someone having 2 relic weapons on one character. With these, and the gear combo I have, Hundred Fists basically becomes irrelevant. Black Belt and Byakko's Haidate give a 17% Haste boost, and coupled with the Dune Boots, let's just say I have a lot of fun. I was messing around with the Desert Manticores in West Altepa, hitting constantly over 200 damage, and with the insane Kick Attack bonus from the Dune Boots, Kick attacks are fairly consistent. With all the merit points you get from farming the ungodly amount of crap you need to get these, you should have a nice boost from your Merits. I used mine on Critical Hit, and with the Critical Hit bonus that the Spharai provide, it's impossible for even the best tanks to keep hate. That's the only real problem, but the enhanced Counter allows you to control the situation until the PLD can get hate back, if ever. The only way to lose hate with these is to stop fighting, and remove any evasion+ gear you have so you can get hit. Record damage with Final Heaven is 4791, but that was on the Boreal Hound, so that doesn't really count. It was a weak one anyways. I've seen Guillotine get over 4000 on Boreal Hound no problem. So to all you morons who would use something else over this, I will tell you right now; THIS IS NOT A WASTE OF TIME! Took about 11 months to get, and I didn't have to buy gil until the last upgrade, so I was fairly happy. For those of you thinking I am a severe gil buyer, who sends Garuda's economy down the toilet, you're wrong. The only way I was able to get this stuff is by being extremely lucky on lots, and having a lot of really nice Dynamis partners. By the way, the video is accurate for the most part, it's just much more impressive being able to see every frame, instead of every 5 lol. As for DoT, I can outdamage my static RNG buddy. We did a party total for a half an hour, and I did about 2K more than him, and he's no slouch. As for the fun factor with these, I get tired of the same WS over and over again, even though Final Heaven is amazing. The real awe-factor from these just comes from how incredibly hard and fast they hit. Beating the crap out of stuff is my favorite past time with these. ^^ Anyways, I hope that gives you an idea of what they are capable of, and don't give up on these! The last upgrade is the longest, but these are WELL worth the wait. Thanks for reading.
I am not sure of any lies in what he said, but there are some inconsistent info from what he put on merrits. crit +8% is impossible, 4 is max, not sure of the new job abilities, but 3 is max on the new abilities,
I would just to like point out this guy posting crap like he all that, meanwhile he lies about **** that dont even exist.. Vulcan ring? nah ah sorry kid but my friend is 100 gold and HQ'ed many Flame,Snow rings etc, and NEVER EVER has a vulcan been sold nor seen on Kujata, so if your gonna lie do it right ***** cause u corney for lying like this, u basically put EVERY epic piece everyone WOULD wear for the charecter on your rap sheet tomake it like your THAT good, i highly doubt it kiddo. And if u have the balls to say a vulcan exists come migrate to kujata so i can show you what an *** whoopin is really like Final heaven or not. (God damn kids actin like there the **** these days...) *Rant DONE*
1. A 17% haste destoryer is still faster than 17% spharai . (Spharai 386, Destroyer 348)
2. I don't think critical merit have anything to do with x3 damage because it can proc on normal hit. 3. Lavish on Titan have horn, club, and is working on sword. Feather on another server is on her 5th relic. 4. I was already outdamaging post-patch RNG with destroyer. 5. Any monk should've already been pulling hate in lv75 exp pt from a PLD, you're sounding like you could've done it only because of spharai? 6. You don't really sounded like you own one.
Doesn't matter who you can beat with your Spharai, point is you didn't earn the weapon, and thus your opinnion doesn't matter. Put some gear that you actually worked for, then come face me in Ballista.
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no kidding. If you ever bought gil at one point in time, you're not worthy of weapons like this. Hang your head in shame =P
You go spend 11 months on one piece of equipment. Give the guy a break. He comitted 11 months of his life to a game, I'm pretty sure a little gil buying on the side to take away about another month wouldn't hurt.
And one more thing, people like you seem to criticize gil sellers for the prices raising. Yes, gil sellers do raise some prices, but guess what? People that really raise prices are ourselves. I'm sure you do it all the time. "oh look theres no **** in stock, I'll put it up for 5k higher than normal"
dam this does sound like a sic ws but i do wish it was umm well more flashy like asuran fists with a dragon kick and howling fist animations thrown in XD that would pwn
i dont know why people use pwn... its just a mistype of own and little kids liked it so they started to use it because it was the "cool" thing to do.
Edited, Thu Jan 5 17:47:42 2006
Pwn is a typo? I guess my CS buddies that said it meant "pistol owned" a few years back were just ******* with me. Thanks for setting the record straight.
and? pwn = own a common typo >.> why edit 1 mistake when ppl write pwn instead of own anyway. guess you had nothing usefull to add to the post, Guess i had nothing better to do a few month later to even reply to ur post go figure :D
Its confirmed, this Relic weapon has a 3x critical hit and doubles "counterattack" so you can beat the @$%!@#$^ out of stuff and make another Light/Dark SC after a Light and a Dark SC (Gradient from Arcana Imperii from Kujata has it)
I envy the guy who got them :) I know Ryuf on Unicorn was 3/4 on he upgrades for Spharai, but this thing is sick. One day (In 10 years :P) I'll have it.
ok it maybe the WS but isnt my final heaven a 18 hit ws??? if that is the WS whats the point of putting our blood sweat and tears into something thats just a shock wave looking move?!? O_o i mean if i put months into something that may take someone years i want something really ******* worth it here ya know? im not disrespecting the WS but if that is the WS im gona be one pissed mnk.....
Looks aren't everything though. I could care less if the WS looked liked a low grade combo. The real matter is the ammount of damage you can do with it. Yes, it looks like Howling Fists, but I don't think the mobs will be laughing when you hit them, or if you see someone with these equipped on your enemy team in Ballista O.O
ok ok... just to calrify some things... to add to the list of fully upgraded relic weapons... Cleen on Fenrir has V 3/4 of his dagger... (wouldnt surprise me if he's gotten 4/4 by now ^^)... and the RWS on Zebra flood are the animations, and what not (atleast i'm almost positive) but the damage is completely fake... COMPLETELY... and for the person talking junk about "Why dont they do much damage" omg >< ok bud... not only does it add killer +Atk... but look... just LOOK at it... it actually does more damage than any other H2H weapon that mnks can use (and they can use them all) AND... look at that sweet *** delay... mnk isnt all about one big smack.. it's about a bunch of lil smacks really fast... and if the person has bothered to get these he probably has a black belt + other crazy haste ****... so he's almost got instant 100 fists... this weapon's a god on it's own, i'd kill to see anyone wielding it...