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Level 30 Subjob Items
# Aug 08 2006 at 6:27 PM Rating: Good
495 posts
Level 30 Subjob Items

There are level 30 Earrings, Shields, Belts and Mantles that all trigger on Latent Effects. These all correspond with a job.
All of them activate via Subjob. Nothing else will trigger these to activate, NOT main job, ONLY subjob.
The newest jobs (Blu, Cor, Pup) do not have these items (as of 7/27/06).
Subjob: Bard        - Singer's    (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Song Belt) 
Subjob: Beastmaster - Trimmer's   (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Pick Belt) 
Subjob: Black Mage  - Wizard's    (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Staff Belt) 
Subjob: Dark Knight - Killer      (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Scythe Belt) 
Subjob: Dragoon     - Wyvern      (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Lance Belt) 
Subjob: Monk        - Wrestler's  (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Cestus Belt) 
Subjob: Ninja       - Genin       (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Sarashi) 
Subjob: Paladin     - Esquire's   (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Shield Belt) 
Subjob: Ranger      - Beater's    (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Gun Belt) 
Subjob: Red Mage    - Warlock's   (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Rapier Belt) 
Subjob: Samurai     - Ashigaru    (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Katana Obi) 
Subjob: Summoner    - Magician's  (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Avatar Belt) 
Subjob: Thief       - Pilferer's  (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Dagger Belt) 
Subjob: Warrior     - Mercenary's (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Axe Belt) 
Subjob: White Mage  - Healer's    (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Mace Belt)

There are other Latent effect items that trigger at different things such as Low HP, <100% tp, a bard song on you, This is NOT one of those items.
The only thing that activates these items is your subjob.
# Apr 15 2006 at 12:59 AM Rating: Decent
im going to clear this up as well as what the store TP trait does.

this belt is ONLY triggered when your using /sam

store TP works like this: store TP+1 would be an extra 0.1 TP not a whole number so if u had store TP+1 and you hit for 14TP worth your going to get 14.1 TP not 15, and although you dont see it yes you can get 0.1 of a TP
# Dec 14 2005 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
When i first started DRG/SAM at lvl 60 i got me one of these. Adds one TP per swing when it activates and it seems to activate a whole lot for me. 15% TP per swing + 30% free TP off jumps + another 60% off meditate makes DRG/SAM very secksay indeed. Pssh, and people say that you're gimped without Berserk. When they see you spamming Wheeling thrusts like a **** they seem to change their mind pretty quick. Anyway i would say that if you plan to sub SAM post 60 it's a VERY nice piece of equipment to have.
# Nov 11 2005 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
ok so since sam is a worthless sub till you hit 60 i guess this is pretty much worthless... *sigh* i was looking forward to using this belt too
um latent
# Sep 12 2005 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
ok, im not 100% posative of this, but it prob means u just need to have store TP effect. and this will boost the amount of TP u get when u hit, can someone confirm?
RE: um latent
# Sep 18 2005 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
- read th previous posts unlike some items that 'enhance' some skills this adds to it. . .so yes you will have the ability to 'Store TP' to get +1 to it. the said skill is gained at Samurai lvl 10. end.

Edited, Sun Sep 18 20:31:46 2005
# Jun 06 2005 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
this only works with /sam nothing else and /sam has to be atleast lvl 15
# Dec 27 2004 at 3:24 PM Rating: Default
Its amazing how long this has continued.... anyways.. the trigger is /samurai ! for full time effect.
# Dec 27 2004 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
Its amazing how long this has continued.... anyways.. the trigger is /samurai ! for full time effect.
RE: the obi
# Dec 26 2004 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
415 posts
I just bought one of these, because a sam in my Ls said its perfect for samurai. I haven't tried it out yet, but Latent Effect means when you get in the yellow, it works. I really dont think that it only works with sam sub, it probably works with either sam main, or sam sub, but o well, i hope i didnt ***** myself =/
RE: the obi
# Oct 20 2005 at 5:52 PM Rating: Default
lol, you just screwed yourself
RE: the obi
# Sep 14 2005 at 7:41 PM Rating: Decent
+1 Store TP is not noticable by itself. It would be very hard to say when or when it doesnt work. BUT considering the other belts, its sub sam to trigger.
Its done!
# Nov 27 2004 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
OK I just spent 60k to see if this would work or not with SAM main, and it doesnt! I tried all variations to get it to work (get yellow health, consecutive hits, etc.) none of them work, I still only get 13-15 TP as you would normally with Store TP (im lvl 39 btw). Now you dont have to wonder anymore, and I hopefully am able to resell it :-x but atleast I'm putting this thing to rest, I'm pretty sure all BCNM30 items are for subjob only, as someone else said. There you go :)
# Nov 22 2004 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
Just because it says Latent Effect doesn't mean SAM has to be your Sub. As for working on any class, maybe if SAM is your sub you need it for main eh? And each Store TP boost gives you 2% extra TP. This belt rules until, as was said, you get a Life Belt. And also, i'm not even sure if HP has to be yellow. I believe the effect is always active. Not sure on that one.

Edited, Mon Nov 22 00:30:24 2004
RE: Yeah...
# Sep 19 2005 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
723 posts
Latent Effect means, you have to met a certain condition to get the effect. In the case of this Belt, you sub-job HAS TO BE SAM. So yes just because it says Latent Effect means that you have to meet the condition, therefore Means SAM has to be your sub.
to be honest
# Nov 04 2004 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
to be honest this belt is really only good if your a rng/sam at lvl 60+ rangers don't really have to worry about belts so hey if it'll kick in automatically with sam sub more power to ya with the two other tp stores you have from having sam sub at 30. Thats about the only combo though everything else really needs to have a life belt because +10 acc for about 80k (My server) is really really nice
# Oct 15 2004 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I have been using this item since L30 and it dos work. I am a SAM/RNG and from I have read about other Latent items is your life needs to be in the yellow or lower. After reading this information, I set out to test it. I was normally getting 12-15 TP a strike, and in the yellow i started building TP like crazy (14-18/strike). .

It's your imagination, all of the BCNM30 belts are subjob triggered. This item only works if you have SAM as your subjob.
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I thought of it first:

a waste
# Sep 25 2004 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
75 posts
unless SE boosted the amount of TP gain you get from TP Store, this item is garbage.

You get like 1.5-2% extra TP with the store tp +6 pants. +1 wont add up to much.

dont waste your money on this unless your one of those ppl who can.
Life Belt Vs. This
# Aug 28 2004 at 12:44 AM Rating: Default
Ok at 30 this is perfect for samurai but like Valhallodin said accuracy is better but since this is the only good belt for SAM up to 48, you keep this till you can get Life Belt.
RE: Life Belt Vs. This
# Aug 31 2004 at 4:16 PM Rating: Good
28 posts
No, it doesn't work if SAM is your main job.

Think about it, IF it only worked if your main job is SAM, then why is it equipable by all jobs? This would be a good belt for anyone subbing SAM until level 48 (Say WAR/SAM or something), but @48 the Life Belt would be the obvious choice. If you're subbing SAM at the higher levels, this belt would only really an option if you already have tons of Acc. stuff on (Sniper X2, Haubergeon, Merman's or Spectacles, etc.) and possibly are lucky enough to always group with a BRD. Then this belt may be worthwhile again.
RE: Life Belt Vs. This
# Sep 05 2004 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
Maybe it works if SAM is your main or your sub, who knows, perhaps someone should get one and try it... I've been trying to get one but there hasn't been any for sale.

Edited, Sun Sep 5 12:22:12 2004
RE: Life Belt Vs. This
# Oct 05 2004 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default
I have been using this item since L30 and it dos work. I am a SAM/RNG and from I have read about other Latent items is your life needs to be in the yellow or lower. After reading this information, I set out to test it. I was normally getting 12-15 TP a strike, and in the yellow i started building TP like crazy (14-18/strike). I have kept it ever since. I have not had a chance to try the Life Belt, so I'm afraid I can't compare the two.

Edited, Tue Oct 5 16:04:08 2004
Better off...
# Aug 04 2004 at 8:47 PM Rating: Decent
972 posts
Wouldn't you be better off trying to up accuracy so that you hit more often than trying to set up a latent effect? Really for 15 or 16 TP rather than 14 or 15, you have to figure with a good piece of accuracy up gear, you would hit a lot more often. So if you hit 80% of the time w/ this on, you still don't build TP as fast as you would hitting 90% with some accuracy gear on. (The %s are made up for example, no real relevence.)
Formerly Valhallodin of HouseAtreides on Caitsith
Caitsith - San d'Oria - 75SAM - 75RNG - 65WAR - 45THF - 44PLD - 40NIN - 36BLU - 30DRG

BCNM30 Items
# Jul 19 2004 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
399 posts
All of the BCNM30 items (at least until someone proves otherwise) are triggered by subjob only. It could be triggered with low HP for the main job too but I doubt it.

I sub RDM on BLM so I am very excited to get the Warlock's Cape (Enhances Fast Cast effect), if someone proves it's low HP that'd be depressing.
oh boy obi
# May 04 2004 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
Like the level 30 earrings, this might be for people with samurai as a subjob. If that's the case, it will be constantly "on" if you fit that requirement.

Though for Rabizu's sake, I hope it works for Samurai main, too. ^^
# Apr 29 2004 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
278 posts
i hate items with latent effects. as a dmg dealer i rarely get into low hp, so they never kick in. if anything i'd have a /equip waist "Katana Obi" macro. one question, if you equip an item like this when your hp is already critical, will it still take effect? or must you be wearing it when you go into critical?
the obi
# Apr 29 2004 at 8:13 PM Rating: Default
latent effect is store tp + 1
pretty much a must have if you a sam like me.
i've givin up the life belt in order wear this.
the change on tp gain that i have saw is this.

before tp gain was this:14 15 14 15

when the latent kicks in the tp gain is this.

15 16 15 16.

keep in mind it wasnt a big deal for me to drop the life belt because i'm a sam/rng.

for this new waist item,it is a must have for a sam or anyone that subs sam.so i say this.

My god square enix....thank you.

from the many times that they've screwed us sams,
they finally reward us.

RE: the obi
# Oct 06 2004 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
122 posts
very often...i'm a lvl 40 samurai/ 20 ranger as well and the crits are very good. I get about 4-5 per battle. although with the ranger sub and a good bow/arrows...you do more dmg with the bow. I've outdone rangers (on the single arrow shots...dont' even talk about barrage =P) my same lvl with my bow/arrows/equips.

Sam/rng is very versatile...that's why i like it. I'm raising thf and war subs tho for all those ppl that can't stand partying with any job combo that's 'out of the ordinary'.
RE: the obi
# Jul 26 2004 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
man how often has square made any other MMORPGS with samurai as a job, too?


oh wait they didnt.

**my rendition**
latent effect is store tp + 1
pretty much a must have if you a drg/sam like me.
i've givin up the warrior's belt +1 in order wear this.
RE: the obi
# May 09 2004 at 1:09 AM Rating: Default
what is the trigger for the latent effect on the katana obi, is it low hp?
RE: the obi
# May 03 2004 at 11:32 PM Rating: Default
man how often do you get criticle anyway as a sam/rng
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