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Level 30 Subjob Items
# Jul 27 2006 at 3:20 PM Rating: Good
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Level 30 Subjob Items

There are level 30 Earrings, Shields, Belts and Mantles that all trigger on Latent Effects. These all correspond with a job.
All of them activate via Subjob. Nothing else will trigger these to activate, NOT main job, ONLY subjob.
The newest jobs (Blu, Cor, Pup) do not have these items (as of 7/27/06).
Subjob: Bard        - Singer's    (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Song Belt) 
Subjob: Beastmaster - Trimmer's   (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Pick Belt) 
Subjob: Black Mage  - Wizard's    (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Staff Belt) 
Subjob: Dark Knight - Killer      (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Scythe Belt) 
Subjob: Dragoon     - Wyvern      (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Lance Belt) 
Subjob: Monk        - Wrestler's  (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Cestus Belt) 
Subjob: Ninja       - Genin       (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Sarashi) 
Subjob: Paladin     - Esquire's   (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Shield Belt) 
Subjob: Ranger      - Beater's    (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Gun Belt) 
Subjob: Red Mage    - Warlock's   (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Rapier Belt) 
Subjob: Samurai     - Ashigaru    (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Katana Obi) 
Subjob: Summoner    - Magician's  (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Avatar Belt) 
Subjob: Thief       - Pilferer's  (Earring, Mantle,  Aspis, Dagger Belt) 
Subjob: Warrior     - Mercenary's (Earring, Mantle,  Targe, Axe Belt) 
Subjob: White Mage  - Healer's    (Earring, Mantle, Shield, Mace Belt)

There are other Latent effect items that trigger at different things such as Low HP, <100% tp, a bard song on you, This is NOT one of those items.
The only thing that activates these items is your subjob.

Edited, Aug 8th 2006 at 7:18pm EDT by FenrirValendros
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 16 2004 at 4:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Keekles, I have yet to meet a melee that out-damages me. The only ones that come close are MNK. And in 2 levels I can SATA raging rushes for 1000+ O.O
Ranger
# Nov 14 2004 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
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A ranger subbing warrior could really use this because of thier unability to hold shields, just some extra defence and the occasional blocked attack.

Edit: The "Killer" shield only has 4 defense with latent effect HP +5 and CHR +2

Edited, Sun Nov 14 16:52:06 2004
mages
# Nov 14 2004 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Black Mages could equip this, just because they can...they still use wands at this level, and they have the open slot (Faerie Shield is really horrible and overpriced). So 6 DEF won't be bad for them.
fvds
# Nov 13 2004 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
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This shield is pointless.


Nope. Ive seen War/Nin not dual wield, because of delay, just exploiting Utsusemi
RE:RE:Eh?
# Nov 10 2004 at 8:48 AM Rating: Default
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Of course that still doesnt explain why someone would want this Sheild, but think about a tank with Utsusemi AND Shield skill, and if you are going to use a shield you might as well use one that adds attack.

After your previous statements adding this only implies that you think you can equip a two handed weapon and this shield to add to your ATT rating.
Ludicrous. This shield is pointless. And may god have mercy on your soul for thinking otherwise. PS: It is nin subjob to use.
RE:RE:Eh?
# Sep 18 2005 at 11:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Jabed, WAR has the same rating in 1 handed axes as 2 handed ones. High level WAR/NIN tanks sometimes use a 1 handed axe and a Tatami Shield (or other shield) and reap the benefits of Utsusemi and a shield. There is no law that says you have to weild 2 weapons just because you are /NIN.
RE:RE:Eh?
# Oct 09 2005 at 7:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Jabed, WAR has the same rating in 1 handed axes as 2 handed ones.


Um, no. WAR has an A in 1-Handed Axes and an A+ in Greataxes. Sure, only a 6 point difference in skills, but the ratings are different nonetheless. Not to mention that Greataxe is the only weapon Warriors own with WSs that only they can use. No offense, but please be sure to straighten up on your facts next time. ^^;
Smn/Whm
# Nov 10 2004 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Call it pointless if you'd like, it'll help keep the AH prices low. I'll take the 6 defense points for my Smn/Whm, and to hell with the latent effect. Nothing else in the slot otherwise. Healer's Shield is only 2 Def, and I don't really need +2 Dex as a Smn.
not SAM
# Oct 31 2004 at 12:33 AM Rating: Default
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Genin means "low-rank person, menial" in Japanese, so I doubt it's for Samurai. Most likely, a lowly 'soldier', ie Warrior.
RE: not SAM
# Nov 13 2004 at 9:33 PM Rating: Default
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A Warrior is a "lowly soldier"? K, sure, yeah, lemme just outdamage you hit for hit and protect you from harm, k?
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RE: not SAM
# Nov 13 2004 at 9:33 PM Rating: Default
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My first double post!

Edited, Sat Nov 13 21:34:31 2004
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RE: not SAM
# Nov 13 2004 at 11:26 PM Rating: Default
Lol, Galka WAR thinks he can outdamage Mithra THF.. You can outdamage for a minute, but then you're blown the hell outta the water.
RE: not SAM
# Nov 14 2004 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
sorry dude but a galka war can outdmg mithra thf, at 37 galka war can hit for almost 100 dmg a hit with berserk and do sturmwinds for up to 400 dmg with sneak attack. I beleive that outdmges there 10-20 dmg a hit and 250 dmg sneak trick and 500 dmg viper bites. Thfs only have good dmg once a minute, its nice for skill chains and holding hate but wars do more overall dmg. Wars also outdmg darkknight until up into the 60's. drk weapon skills suck till than, and they have to choose between sneak attack and berserk while war can get both.
Eh?
# Oct 01 2004 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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The main reason to sub NIN is dual wield, so why on earth would anyone equip a shield when subbing ninja?
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
RE: Eh?
# Nov 22 2004 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Uhm...Hi. My name is Kraken Club. When I'm used by a WAR/NIN with this shield, I kill people.
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RE: Eh?
# Oct 02 2004 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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The main reason to sub NIN is dual wield, so why on earth would anyone equip a shield when subbing ninja?


um.... the main reason to sub NIN utsusemi.

Edited, Fri Mar 31 11:19:03 2006
RE: Eh?
# Nov 15 2004 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
haha..... you try it ... then tell me what does more DMG. i know for a fact that my 2 war. axes will do more DMG then a G. axe at the same lvl.
T.T
# Jul 27 2004 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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i believe this one is in fact triggered off of /nin sub.. sorry ^^;;

just because they are keeping things balanced with a shield for each job, doesn't mean they have to be useful XD
Latent Effect
# Jul 21 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I think these lvl 30 shields' latent effects are triggered like the lvl 30 earrings - so ...

Genin
Latent Effect Trigger: Must have NIN as sub-job
ninja shield?
# Jul 14 2004 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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well, it doesnt have to be useful, but they are keeping it fair with one for each job, so at least its real.. if not useful for the job it's intended for ^^

think of it like this: your 30whm/15blm gets a nifty 6def shield ^^
not getting this one
# Jul 09 2004 at 9:39 PM Rating: Decent
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These shields from this update probably have their latent effect activated if you have a certain subjob. If I understand correctly what a genin is, this one is for ninja (and why would anyone subbing ninja be using a shield?)
RE: not getting this one
# Jul 09 2004 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
ummmm....yeah.....warriors sub ninja all the time.....especially if they are doing the "blink tank" combo...
RE: not getting this one
# Jul 10 2004 at 12:00 AM Rating: Default
But NIN sub gives dual wield...

Thus all the 2 axe WARs...

This shield is odd.
RE: not getting this one
# Jul 11 2004 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
It must be for a different subjob then, maybe samurai...
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