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# Dec 10 2005 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
I love this instrument its probably my favorite, i mean who doesnt love to run fast longer. Well worth the 1mil gil i paid on Leviathan for it!!!
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# Oct 03 2005 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Correct me if i am wrong.
But doesnt the +1/+2 on the Instrument only give +8/+16 Seconds on the duraction of the song?
And have no effect on the effect.
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# Sep 30 2006 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
As a lvl 9 BRD, with +2/+1 instruments, I can confirm it does have an effect on the effects, not just duration. Maybe not for all songs, but when I use my Minne+1 harp, I get +1 more DEF than with a normal harp. Likewise one more att with my Minuet+1 flute. Granted, that's not much. But it's something.
Bah
# May 26 2005 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
mazurka Horn don't make u run faste at all, it only increase duration of spell (20 sec longer)

make the test with a bard without the horn and ul run same speed as him, but he will lose effect before u .
zip
# Jan 31 2005 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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was about to buy one today for 500k when my other 2 lvl 75 LS bards adamantly warned me that it only affects duration. it's second hand info but they seemed certain enough to stear me away from the buy rather than saying "yea buy it and test it out"

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in my experience, the base power of each song raises with your singing skill, and the additional power of a +2 (or +1) insturment raises with your wind or string skill. Thus a +2 that only adds +5 to ATT at lvl 15 will add +50 (about) at lvl 70 - same insturment but much higher wind skill.

wind and string skill do not affect ballad or paeon at all but the +2 adds +2 hp per tik to paeon (paeon4 + paeon3 +2 ebony harp = 11 hp/tik).

the best argument I have that +2 marzuka dosn't make you go as fast as a chocobo is this:

how many lvl 73+ JP parties have you seen running around w/o chocobos, relying instead on their bard while still keeping up with you on your chocobo?
me personally: none.
RE: zip
# Apr 18 2005 at 2:49 AM Rating: Decent
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+50? You obviously have not tested this. Or counted the atk from minuet IV. Minuets do increase in effectiveness with higher song skills, but they each have a hard cap. Cornette +1 increases the atk from each minuet by a certain percentage- otherwise, minuet I +2 would raise atk to a degree comparable to IV with no cornette +1 equipped. If need be, enter a level capped zone to confirm this- the promys are certainly easy to access. Minuet I should be capped at level 30 (I think), and it should be the exact same in and out of the capped area.
CHR
# Oct 21 2004 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Biriko, that's completely off. CHR does only ONE thing for a bard, and that's lower the resist rate on your offensive songs. That's it. Period. If you're wondering why Paeon starts doing more than it used to at higher levels, that's because of your singing and instrument skill levels, which *do* have an effect on your support songs.

Also, maybe you just worded it badly when you said to use a +1 instrument for Ballad (did you mean just any +1 instrument?) because we all know there's no Ballad-enhancing instrument other than our relic weapon.

One last thing -- why are you casting ballad on the entire party? You're only supposed to hit the mages, and sometimes the paladin. For this, you would definitely not want to use a harp. String instruments have large and rather unpredictable ranges that seem to be based off the level of the song you're singing (and perhaps another stat, most likely your string skill). For example, my Ballad I with a harp can probably fill an entire football field while my Ballad II only stretches about 30 in-game feet. Wind instruments seem to vary *slightly* with their ranges, but they're all pretty much the same no matter which one you're using or which song you're singing.
-_-
# Sep 25 2004 at 10:25 PM Rating: Good
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Quote:
Therefore, Zalim Sage, I would reccommend using a +1 instrument for Mage's Ballad.

-_- and you call yourself a bard? for shame ;_;

there is NO "Ballad+1" instrument in the game. the only thing that comes close is the fully upgraded Relic Horn, Gjallerhorn, which has "All songs +2" in addition to other godly buffs for bard XD
(they should have added "You may sell all other instruments you own" to the description of Gjallerhorn ^_^)

and it is not CHR that affects party buff songs, it is instrument skill: singing, string, and wind
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 24 2004 at 10:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Slight bit of confusion here about CHR. Yes, it is mainly used in debuffs. However, high levels of CHR can enhance effects of buffs. For example, at level 30, a bard with as much CHR+ gear as possible can use Army's Paeon I and get the same effect as Army's Paeon II. At a higher level, II has the same effect as III, and etc. It also aids in the strength of statistical buffs (Valor Minuet, Knight's Minne, etc.). However most posts are correct in that +1 instruments MAINLY add to the duration of the songs. Therefore, Zalim Sage, I would reccommend using a +1 instrument for Mage's Ballad. Personally I end up using the Rose Harp +1 in my ballad macro due to its wider range, allowing me to cover the entire party in one shot. Either way, if you don't want ballad coming off too soon, use a +1, even if it is not specific for that song. The duration effect is not quite as potent, but still works.
CHR for Ballad? O_o
# Aug 02 2004 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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i believe that this is not going to help at all...
as far as i have figured, CHR only helps in cases where the affected target "could" resist it... which is not the case in buff songs for your party.. i would agree that CHR is very useful for landing de-buffs and is the next best thing for "Lullaby" if you dont have Mary's Horn for instance...

edit: oops forgot to mention that a 72brd told me that mazurka speeds up the party by about 50%, so faster than normal, not as fast as chocobo, right between the two... what i was wondering was will this instrument increase that to chocobo speed? 200% normal speed instead of 150%?

Edited, Mon Aug 2 16:02:25 2004
yes its duration
# Aug 02 2004 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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Yea, in my opinion it is duration. I have a few items that are +1 for my insterments. I would cast Madrigal and Minuet, then walk back the the mages and play ballad. I have +1 insterments for the Madrigal and Minuet songs, but i use the royal squires horn for ballad for the CHR+3. Ballad falls off first b4 the other 2 and I casted ballad last. so IMO it is duration.. +2 is just enhancing the legth even longer
~curious on the Military harp~ "Finale" +2
I, Bardbot.
# Aug 01 2004 at 12:45 PM Rating: Default
In my experience, most of the +2 Instruments do a little bit of both. Increasing potency AND duration. However, the +2 effect is heavily weighted to the duration side of that scale. Take for instance, the lowest Lv. horn that is +2: the Cornette +1. While this instument does add a few more attack points than the regular Cornette does, it mainly makes the song last longer. So my guess is that this instument makes the effect of Mazurka last longer than if you sang it or played it with a nonrelated instrument.
yes it is :P
# Jul 30 2004 at 1:42 AM Rating: Decent
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it is indeed a bard instrument...
wind instrument, with "Mazurka +2"
not sure how that actually affects the song, but i'm guessing it would have to be either:

A...Song lasts longer (like how the choco gear increases riding time)
B...Speed goes even faster (equal to chocobo speed)
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# Jul 29 2004 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
Not a Bard instrument?
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