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  • Active when the wearer's HP is below 50%.

  • Regen effect is 3HP/tic and Refresh effect is 1MP/tic.

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got it, diggin' it.
# May 28 2006 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Just hit 66 and took my new ring on a test drive in Kuftal Tunnel killing some Robbers.

Works nicely, and with PLD's auto refresh, now I've got +3 HP and +2 MP per tick whenever under 50% life.

And that's okay with me.
HELP!!!
# May 28 2006 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
ok ok ive been lookin for this damn thing for like a week!!! if you have one or know someone that does on carbuncle msg me please!!! in-game name is jayster it goes for 200k PLEASE!!!
Good and Bad
# Mar 08 2006 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
Just to clarify i only bought this ring when i was 72 so i can't say how good it is before that. Party wise its not something you should have equipped for more than 5 seconds. i have it in my provoke macro with a waited delay to see if it makes a difference. with adaman gear ur enmity is high enough as it is :). Soloing this is a great help. as PLD/WAR i have tried to solo DC with sword and shield and i usually have to switch to staff for spirit taker. although i like to keep myself in orange at all times (another reason why that "god" only HP equip should be used :D) for the refresh i think as PLD/NIN dual wielding with HP eq this is good eq but party wise stick with vigor/topaz/robust/soil rings. just my thoughts to it ^^
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# Jan 29 2006 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
Now maybe wrng but i remember this thing used to be not a latent effect...maybe i was seeing things but i coulda sworn it was ...either way it is still very much useful..some ppl may argue that point but heres where your wrong...once u get to lvl 73 u can finally swap out your pld AFs for Adaman gear...also at 71 theres warwolfbelt and durandel that +12 vit right there alond...plus another 3 vit from rosenbogen which is 70 ...then u can add all your adaman gear vit+ and u come up with a heck of alot of vit so....u dont really even need those vit+ rings so much anymore which is where herc ring comes in and it is usually paired with jelly ring at that lvl or for those who completed COP that uber rare ex ring u get from getting every COP mission done. Soooo...this ring isnt useless..if u still think so though go ahead and not use it...your missing out though
LE is great
# Jan 13 2006 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
Honestly, this Latent Effect comes in incredibly handy when soloing as pld/rdm. I use this while skilling dagger, shield and parrying up in Boyahda Tree against Korrigans. I keep myself less than 50% hp for most of the time and take full benefit of the regen/refresh. It helps me last another 2-3 minutes or so per mob, which means more skill ups for me. Overall though I would say that this piece of equipment is situational. You should use it when you have <50% hp and need the extra +3 hp and +1 mp per tick to keep yourself ticking.
Garbage
# Dec 26 2005 at 2:00 AM Rating: Default
these rings are useless.

i've done alot of stuff at lvl 61 that a pld isn't usually invited to. avy's, af nm's. and i don't think i have ever once lost hate(long enough for anyone to get hit). +3 enmity is nice, i guess thats why theres + enmity in the af. but its not worth sacrificing the +vit to gain it.

in exp party too, i never see a problem holding hate. if i see myself not holding aggro, just tell the whm to hold off a bit on curing. in exp situation, pld should be main healing anyways.

i can see its use for farming though. i guess thats why i bought a vermy.

/em shrugs.
RE: Garbage
# Apr 03 2006 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
"/em shrugs" You gotta be kidding me this thing costs like 1/20 of the V cloak LMAO. And with the v cloak you lose your helmet and armor, thats alot of def to give up even if you are just farming. In addition you obvousily havent been invite to too many, HNM fights other wise you'd know that sometimes you dont even engage the mob you just voke it and kite it, and when your doing that you need every peice of enmity you can get, just to keep hate from the blms, rngs, and, rdms.
And no it isnt something you should exp with but I carry like 4 rings with me at all times for different situations, and this lil baby has saved my *** SOOOOO many times when Im just running around and get aggro'd or want to kill a evenmatch or whatever.
RE: Garbage
# Sep 08 2006 at 10:22 AM Rating: Default
This Ring sucks *** [ . ] First off If your @50% HP; which is when the latent effect is triggered; fighting say Byakko or any lvl80+ NM for to long your going to die! +3 HP every 3 sec. wont save your ***. 2nd, + 3 Emnity is far from even close to the same ball park as +75 HP or -5% physical dmg, hell even Soil Ring. This Ring is Overrated. Solo'n/Farming is the only thing I would use this for.
Best PLD Ring's - a few I prolly wasnt thinking of.
~ Def. Ring > CoP Ring > [Bloodbead Ring/BQ Ring] depending if the Monster has Fire Based Attack > Jelly Ring > Soil Ring > Unyeilding Ring > Phalanx Ring > [ Herc Ring.]
RE: Garbage
# Jan 06 2008 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
bud, seriously, when you're tanking something as pld/nin and your only source of hate comes from flash (sentinel, rampart and holy circle are there too but their recast time is pretty big). that being said, dont expect to go full DD on something like Aspid and a) deal great damage and b) not take serious damage. really, the only thing you have to fall back on is enmity+ gear. Also, if +4 or 5 VIT is going to make or break your pld, something is wrong.
RE: Garbage
# Nov 02 2006 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
Silly me, there I was thinking that equipment macros serve a purpose. o_0
the ring
# Sep 20 2005 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
I invested in this ring and it helps a great deal I keep it equipped alot of the time though I have a VIT+ ring which I switch to depending on the situation.
# Sep 08 2005 at 1:08 AM Rating: Default
Latent effect = Worthless

The enmity is awesome though, I could totally see using this for equpiment swaps, also, as far as farming goes, you get Spirit taker before you can even use this thing, and in my opinion being able to refil your whole MP bar with 100 tp is infinatly more useful than 1 mp ticks
USE YOUR MP!!!!
# Aug 08 2005 at 10:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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+3 enmity on any tank job is certainly helpful, and if you can afford it {Good job!} But keep in mind while you stack up on your Enmity that it takes a certain amount of skill to be able to manage hate and to know when you need more or less hate, and how to build it, how to diminish it if needed. Enmity is important, but not at the expense of doing your job well, and in the case of Paladin using that glorious MP and your many, many job abilities consistently and approriately. The more you do, the more that enmity bonus will come to your aid.

And as far as the latent being helpful when the paladin's health is that low... this latent will not save your life, and it's returns are very diminishing especially considering that competent mages will refresh and regen the paladin to start. A little extra HP/MP per tick never hurt, but for the amount of time this latent will be active it's worthless.

Edited, Tue Aug 9 00:19:20 2005
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Morwyne ~ Lakshmi
PLD WHM BLM BRD RDM DRG SMN RNG NIN BLU SCH COR WAR THF ~ Retired
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 23 2005 at 3:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Any tank that does not want this ring to swap out on voke, cures, flash and shield bash is not the best he can be, You swap this bad boy out along with a Mermaid Ring thats an added 5 Enmity to your "**** the mob off" abilities.
RE: bah...
# Jul 28 2005 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah... but what if we're trying to make the mob turn to the openner to get sata'd onto? I know that arching arrow/heavy shot and wheeling thrust barely ever turns the mob. If we macro this in, it'll basically eliminate that chance. In this scenario, macroing it in would be bad. I know if I want to let it turn, I have to not voke and flash as soon as they're up, and be moderate on the cures.

Personally I use it full time with no macroing for a total of +17 enmity on me. I don't party with many people that SATA. My drks usually just SA+Spinning Slash and I cover them while blm finishes it off. Anyone that thinks that vit rings would be ready for this should be shot in the foot. With this ring and either the new Sattva Ring or a Jelly ring, you have the best setup for exp imo.

-Eulore, 71 pld, Quetzacoatl Server.
RE: bah...
# Feb 23 2006 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
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A good tank knows the difference between using a macro and manually selecting an ability from the menu as well. Yes, macros are nice and all, if you discount the minor delay in accessing them vs using abilities via the menu commands. ^^ Just because you've put enmity in your voke macro doesn't mean you're limited to macro voke. :) My 2 cents.
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RE: bah...
# Mar 18 2007 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
actually I think it's more important to note that a THF still using SATA at lvl 60+ need's to change job now... ever since the Assasine's Job trait Thf can seperate there SA from there TA... needless to say! oh and for the "good" tank part of all this dispute... well a "good" tank doesnt lose hate at all!
Hercules' Ring
# Jun 20 2005 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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I am getting the ring for the enmity, the latents are just a bonus. :D
How to activate
# Jun 02 2005 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
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The Regen/Refresh effect activates when your HP goes below 50%.

The Regen effect is 3 HP per 3 seconds.
The Refresh effect is 1 MP per 3 seconds.

The effects ONLY last while you are below 50% life...the moment you get 1 HP over 50%, the effects are terminated.

Very nice for farming, you never have to stop unless you're fighting tough stuff...and the +Enmity is great for XP.
New Info!!
# May 15 2005 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Edit: Never Mind

Edited, Sun May 15 19:43:27 2005
latent
# Apr 26 2005 at 12:24 PM Rating: Default
latent effect kicks in at orange life it also stacks with regen and refresh fight some decorative weapons or golems in sky you'll enjoy the boost since both can and will drop your life to orange on occasion.

Why WARs?
# Mar 29 2005 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
I see only WARs and PLDs can equip this ring. Why would SE make it that WARs can use this when they get no MP? WAR/PLD or WAR/DRK i can see why , but even then the MP pool won't be that high that the WAR would need {Refresh}. Another great item wasted on the wrong job... /sigh.
RE: Why WARs?
# Mar 30 2005 at 2:49 AM Rating: Decent
The Rune equipment is the only reason i can think of for a war to have refresh. The latent effect on a peice of Rune equipment causes your mp to be constantly draining by i think 1 mp, so having refresh is ideal when wearing Rune stuff.
hmmm
# Mar 11 2005 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
I consider the latent kinda useless...
but the +3enmity is quite good...
i hav 2 vigor +1 hercules...
i keep using the vigor ones...
but whenever a party makes me feel like im having hate problems
i switch one for hercules
same for hatefull collar... and iron muskt neck
+4 enmity helps a lot... huge difference
considering pld af1 has +8...
Uses for Herc Ring
# Jan 10 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
The Latent is fairly useless, BUT it is fairly useful in HNM situations such as Kirin (where you're kiting and won't have much of a chance to attack for aggro) and Fafnir/Nidhogg where BLMs love to overaggro.

Semi-specific uses, but its handy there.
RE: enmity
# Dec 08 2004 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
Because this ring is available so high in level ==> when Lv.3 Light/Dark skillchains become available, it is impossible to overcome the amount of hate from a SA+TA weapon skill that ends the skillchain, pegging the hate on another party member. The enmity isn't worth it. Now if this ring was ~50 then I would consider it better until 65 for those reasons.
RE: enmity
# Mar 05 2005 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Unless maybe you're playing with a drg(Super jump the hate away) they really should be using sata on you :P
RE: enmity
# Dec 11 2004 at 7:41 AM Rating: Decent
this is ring is my ranger saver ^^ i equipt it when i have cocky drks and rngs tryin to pull hate off me i can notice the difference quite a bit it helps but yes if ur in a pt like mine today where the ranger uses barrage arching arrow then drk sata's onto ranger for 900 spinning slash and 900 light dmg ur hate is gone no chance for you do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars luckyily enough they were smart and only used this to finish mobs off with ^^
Emnity
# Dec 02 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
well i guess the letent effect is a bit worthless in party's..... but the emnity+3 helps alot. if i had this ring i'd wear it in Exp party just for the emnity, but it'd be better for NIN no? the other emnity+ rings only does +2 or is there a +1 of that.... meh
the one ring?
# Nov 25 2004 at 4:11 PM Rating: Default
I purchased this ring on Titan for 500k and used it for about a week in a few different settings.

INFO: Regen = 3hp/tick
Refresh = 1mp/tick

Latent effect activated when HP hits orange. Deactivates when you reach yellow HP again.

EXP Party: Worthless. Latent effect will rarely be activated for more than a few seconds. If you're lucky, you might be one or two ticks in from the latent effect before the White Mage heals you. A good Paladin will heal themselves at yellow anyway, it's a major part of hate handling, no?

Farming: Barely useful. It's nice to have an effect kick in, but if you're farming at this level (with a Paladin no less) you are wasting your time using this ring anyway and you're throwing the enmity out the window. You'll probably avoid being hit to begin with.

Solo (NM): Worthless. Enmity = who cares. Any NM a PLD67 can actually solo with little trouble wouldn't require this ring at all.

HNM Battle: Worthless. You'll probably be kiting the mob most of the time anyway so skip this one and save yourself the gil. Both the Enmity and the latent effects won't matter considering you will be taking considerable amounts of damage and acting as the primary target for healing spells.

Overall rating: 2.5/10

Edited, Tue Jan 4 14:47:59 2005
I got this mad cheap!
# Nov 25 2004 at 10:46 AM Rating: Default
I got this ring a few days ago for 15k on Cerberus. But im not a Paladin or War. In fact im a WHM. So guess what im going to do? Sell it back for 400k.

Note: If you dont believe me check Cerberus Jueno AH within the next couple of days.

You all just got PWNED!
RE: bad @$$ ring
# Nov 16 2004 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Umm..I'm sorry but anyone who doesn't think this ring is awesome should get their Helm checked. Not only does this ring give +3 enmity which is awesome for any tank. But you start to get MP/HP regen when you get into red. Now some of you may think that you don't get into red that often but just think about it from a healer's point of view. A whm 61+ will mostly use Cure V to cure less hate better HPgained /MP used. Although there are conditions to the refresh/regen thay are just an added bonus which kick in more than you think. And, like some have stated before it is awesome for farming because you will never have to rest.


It's not red HP. Half HP / yellow, I've tested it out, although yellow isn't exactly half, the beginning point where you're yellow is just close to half. It'll stop right at the beginning point of yellow HP.

I know some of you will disagree, but I've been using this ring all the time while farming Zi'Tah, and it without a doubt goes off the moment you are at or below the half HP point. Extremely useful farming ring, extremely useful exp ring, glad I purchased it...

PLD 67 / WAR 33, HP is 1,266 or so. So, 633 is where latent would go off.

PLD 67 / THF 18, HP is 1,140ish? So it'll be in the 570 range.

Edited, Tue Nov 16 14:19:31 2004
bad @$$ ring
# Nov 12 2004 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Umm..I'm sorry but anyone who doesn't think this ring is awesome should get their Helm checked. Not only does this ring give +3 enmity which is awesome for any tank. But you start to get MP/HP regen when you get into red. Now some of you may think that you don't get into red that often but just think about it from a healer's point of view. A whm 61+ will mostly use Cure V to cure less hate better HPgained /MP used. Although there are conditions to the refresh/regen thay are just an added bonus which kick in more than you think. And, like some have stated before it is awesome for farming because you will never have to rest.
<pos>?
# Nov 08 2004 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
Whats the <pos> of this NM

Edited, Mon Nov 8 11:12:52 2004
O.O
# Oct 20 2004 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
WOW THIS IS BAD A$$!!!!! i want it. 26 lvls to go -.-
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