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BCNM
# Jul 01 2005 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
I was doing BCNM with my BST LS *cough* carma on Sylph and we where getting thunderpacts but i logged and next day I found out they had continued doing BCNM and got a astral ring and they were doing lvl 30 bcnm
Coffer
# Jun 26 2005 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmm... seems that the BCNMs are the only sure way of getting these rings. I have heard you can get them from Ifrit's Cauldron Coffers and someone mentioned the Den of Rancor. Does anyone know for sure though?
the prices we pay
# Jun 25 2005 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Refinanced the Mog house to pay for this one >.<

Well, I emptied the bank account that is, 180k on Slyph about 1 hour ago. I remember talking to a ls friend a couple weeks ago and he said, they sell for 135k....Damn inflation!!! Oh well, if people don't undercut AH, I'll get a return on it, if I need to sell it. I figure its a good investment, nothing similar til lvl 40 and being hume, can't complain about more mana. Once I've burned up the MP, I can equip change to +INT gear. If nothing else, it will be worth it for the reactions when people /check a lvl 13 hume BLM with no sub, sporting the bling bling ^^.


my old profile name on allakhazham (can't find my pw :). Inflation continues, as I return to the game after my 2nd 3-4 month break, the price is 700-800k one year later on Sylph.

~Mikata
Why Astrals cost so much
# Jun 23 2005 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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The coffers in Castle Oz used to drop Astrals. Level 50+ thieves camped those coffers night and day, making themselves a TON of gil in the process. Of course, this also meant a steady supply of Astrals on the market, so the prices stayed level.

Unfortunately, people also needed these coffers for their AF, and had a nightmarish time finding one with all the thieves around who knew all the spawn points and got to them first.

So SE took the Astrals out of Castle Oz coffers, thus both making it easier to get AF and drastically cutting the supply of Astrals on the market. Since the demand stayed the same, or even rose with many high level melees deciding to play a mage job, and supply went way down.....900k Astrals on Ramuh.

Waka,
Yes, you can enter a 3 man BCNM with less than 3 people. Colo Colo is unlikely to focus completely on one of the Furies. His hate will bounce back and forth between the two, so you may end up with both Furies still alive but seriously dented.

At that point, people usually wait for one to uncharm then set the last one against it.

I really wouldn't want to 2hr with only 2 people in the BCNM, as you'd have to temp log to uncharm him and may log back in to see your partner face down in the muck from that remaining Furies.
If that is the case
# Jun 25 2005 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
well if that is the case then they should be relatively cheaper on my server then. anymore it is hard to find mages on our server cuz they are going to melee jobs, not matterwhat the reason is, i will always say that there should be no reason why a lvl 10 ring should cost so dang much lol.
Rediculous
# Jun 18 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
The price of this ring is just simply outrageous. There is no need for this item to be dang near 1 mil, there just isn't. With as many ppl have at least one, and many more with 2, why the heck so feakin high for a low lvl ring? I can see payin maybe 100k for it, but not no 1 mil i mean come on guys lol.
astral ring vs electrum ring?
# Jun 13 2005 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
One question -


What makes this ring so much better than eg Electrum ring?
Why is convert HP to MP better than HP- MP+??

I'm guessing that when you remove the ring your hp goes up 25 which may let you get out of a bad situation, but other than that I cant think why one goes for 900k and the other goes for 20k!! ; ;

Can someone please let me know! ;)

...Also, just to be a mo-fo =P, if this was the case, would it be possible to put ring on with only 24hp? ...and die?, lol
RE: astral ring vs electrum ring?
# Jun 13 2005 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
The price of items is not always related to how useful the item is, or how much better it is then another item. Prices are mostly set by how difficult the item is to obtain which dictates the supply. If the item is hard to get, making the supply low, but there are a lot of people who want the item, making the demand high, then the price will be high.

Astral Rings can be gotten 2 ways (possibly more I'm not sure). 1 is a rare drop from a BCNM20, the other is out of a coffer in the Den of Rancor.

The reason why so many people want Astral Rings over Electrum Rings even though the difference is only 5MP (10 for a pair) is because Astral Rings are equipable at level 10, but Electrum Rings you can't equip until level 40. That makes Astral Rings very desireable to have between levels 10 and 40, especially if you're playing a mage job on a race that doesn't have much MP, like Galka WHMs.

Edit: Just looked at the top of the page and saw that they're obtainable from a BCNM50 as well. I imagine it doesn't have a great drop rate either though.

Edited, Mon Jun 13 10:14:21 2005
RE: astral ring vs electrum ring?
# Jun 14 2005 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
Good point!
Never thought of that, but if 30 levels more of people can use it then of course it will shoot the price through the roof =P

gottit
# Jun 11 2005 at 12:52 PM Rating: Excellent
I have done bcnm20 probably about 20-25 times so far, and we've only gotten 5 astrals. I got my 2, my friend got his 2, and we've split the money on 1. It goes for 650k on Sylph last time I checked, but that has been about 2-3 weeks ago...
expensive!
# Jun 01 2005 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
this little sucker is gona cost me 950k on my Midgardsormr!
RE: expensive!
# Jun 01 2005 at 9:51 AM Rating: Default
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That's what BCNM 20 is for ^^
Taru's Rule...
# May 20 2005 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
i have a few characters on the Odin server. one of my characters is a Taru named "Magik". i have 1 astral ring currently on this lil' guy. this Taru is currently lvl 10 with no sub job, with the astral on and 1 Rolanberry Pie gets me a 193+ MP pool. i remember back then when i had a Taru on another server, i saw a lvl 30 Hume BLM/WHM (who partied with me to help me get sub job items) had a total MP count of 256. at that time, my Taru on the other server was lvl 16, with the astral and a Pumpkin Pie i had 309+ MP.

so guys, if you're using a Taru doesn't really mean you don't need astrals. i rather recommend any Taru class mages, ***** it if neccessary lol but get this ring. you know what you can do when you have extra 200MP then everyone else in the game!?
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# May 15 2005 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
I would love to get these, but im a lvl 27 rdm and from what i heard the best setup is bst/bst/whm, mabye i should just get to lvl 30 and then lvl bst, i doubt i will have 700k anytime soon
Ifrit
# May 13 2005 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
Astral ring for ifrit was around 250k when i bought one, jumped to 380k in the next month and after the update when they took them out of the coffers went from 380 to 450 to 600 now 800-950k

Price?
# May 13 2005 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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How much are these on your server?
RE: Price?
# Aug 11 2005 at 3:23 AM Rating: Excellent
Um, the usually steady and fair Shiva has the Astral Ring going for around 1-1.1 million last time I browsed the AH hopefully.
RE: Price?
# May 17 2005 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
toooooooooo much on leviathan 900k at least
Ring Pricing
# May 12 2005 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, the price increase on the Astrals now is a combination of things. The gil devaluation combined with the fact that it is no longer a coffer prize, but must now be obtained through the various BCNMs. It's harder to get now, and so the price goes up.
RE: Ring Pricing
# Jun 03 2005 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
Well I agree with most of what you say. But I have this to add. The most influential factor in the price hike by far is that astrals can no longer be found in coffers. Additionally, since this ring is so good early on and is even used by lvl 75 mages suggests that the high demand for this ring will always be there. The inflation of the economy is not so much a factor in the price hike although it contributes somewhat. The bottom line is gilsellers won't flood the market with items that are not easily accessible to them. BCNMs are more of a hassle for gilsellers and in the end not really worth their time when there are so many other mobs they can camp more efficiently. It comes down to supply&demand first and foremost.
RE: Ring Pricing
# Jul 27 2005 at 11:38 PM Rating: Good
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i diss agree with u i have seen about 30 gilsellers on my server get seals and run the bcnm 20 they have usually like 9 or more accs so it not hard for them really
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mad
# May 10 2005 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
i don't know what is going on in this game. prices in ah are just crazy. everytime i check the ah, prices goes up twice as much as they used to. Square isn't doing a damn thing too. i guess FFXI will come to the end soon.-.-
RE: mad
# Jun 29 2005 at 12:02 AM Rating: Decent
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I hope not! this game's just to good!
it's impossible!!!
# May 06 2005 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
this ring is impossible to get, i thought there was about a 25% chance of getting it but ive done BCNM 20 loads of times and not a single drop... if u ever wanna do a BCNM then just tell me
increasing
# Apr 30 2005 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
price on Ragnarok is mad sometimes ;_;

I farmed for this ring... when i had 500k gil i went to buy it, but the price for astral is now 700k O.o Well, 200k more to farm...

Edit: 800k now -.-''

Edited, Tue May 3 11:13:52 2005
RE: increasing
# Jun 13 2005 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
lol!!

Yes - it does suck!
I started farming when they were selling for a lowly 180k! =P
Was around 20k short, and boom they jump up to 250k...
Ah well , take a little break from farming, then go back to it after a few levels - now have 350k - price at AH now jumps to 500K!!! ><

I farmed some more - got my 500k, and now they are hovering about between 9-950k ; ;

I'm giving up on these - heard they have a crappy drop rate from BCNM's as well! >:(
got astral ^^
# Apr 29 2005 at 10:46 AM Rating: Default
i do like 5times the bcn ...one time is tough other easy but we always win....and the 5th time i open the chest and i see an astral ring ^^ i need 2 of them but we are a team so i have to sell it lol nvm we make like 500k each for all of the item we got
How I get Astral Ring?
# Apr 26 2005 at 4:53 AM Rating: Decent
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oops for double post >.<

Edited, Tue Apr 26 09:49:46 2005
How I get Astral Ring?
# Apr 26 2005 at 4:53 AM Rating: Decent
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how I get Astral Ring from BCNM20? I did fight this battle and won two times. But I did not get it....
RE: How I get Astral Ring?
# Jun 11 2005 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
Just because you try two times with no luck doens't mean they don't come from there. ^^ If that was true, such NMs as Sozu Rogberry, Lord of Onzozo, and mobs like Stroper Chyme would seem pointless to kill. :D

But anyway, I myself have done this BCNm.. I think... 5 times and gotten no astral. ; ; But I guess persistance is the key, and having them one day will pay off~!
BCNM
# Apr 20 2005 at 12:21 PM Rating: Default
How many seals do u need for BCNM?
RE: BCNM
# Apr 25 2005 at 12:25 AM Rating: Default
The number of seals that you need for a BCNM fight is dependent on what BCNM fight you are looking at.

The number of seals corresponds with the level cap you're facing. Example:

You want an orb for BCNM40, it will cost 40 seals.
You want an orb for BCNM20, it will cost 20 seals.

I think you get the picture.
astral ring
# Apr 15 2005 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
well if the ring was fairly priced i would buy it but im a taru whm i dont need it nobodyhere shiva signing out
Astrals
# Apr 14 2005 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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all I know is that Astral rings on Slyph server are about 850k-900k nowadays. Back when I first stared, they were like 300k Then they got to 500k, dropped to 250k and shot up to 850k-900k. So yeah, I'm really dependant on BCNM 20 For my Galka WHM
RE: Astrals
# Apr 20 2005 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
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um, shot up to 1,000,000 on Caitsith the other day, should have bought them 4 months ago when they were only 100k-200k /sigh
RE: Bah!
# Apr 14 2005 at 2:05 AM Rating: Default
dont go around sayin a server has the highest inflation rates just cause its your server. pandemoniums inflation rates seem to be worse from what i hear. have you ever seen something go from around 8k to about 80k before? i have ^,^
RE: Bah!
# Apr 27 2005 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
Heh, just like you said...don't say a server has the highest inflation rates. Which means, don't say a server has the highest inflation rates. They're all about even when it comes to the larger servers. Leave it at that.
RE: Bah!
# May 02 2005 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
U think thats freakin bad o had a friend give me 2 an i went to see how much thery "were" worth when i cheked it they were 2mill an my friend gave me 2

2 astrals = wedding (fully paid) an top of the line armor

(31rdm/17nin)/11blm/20smn/8whm


(all i need now is a fiance an im set =)..)
Bah!
# Mar 27 2005 at 3:41 PM Rating: Default
my Elvaan SMN really needs 1...only prob is: on Unicorn their 300K+, i got 190K. i also need 80K+ 4 my wedding >.<
RE: Bah!
# Apr 13 2005 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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uh wow, what??? I'm on Unicorn and astral ring prices are currently at 600-700k, they jumped to a mil and was steady at around 900k for a while but recently it dropped back down. Since your post was on March 27th, that was still around when it was 1 mil astrals so either A) you're on a different server, or B) you haven't checked astral ring prices in 3-4 months. Please do not distort the public's view. Unicorn has one of the biggest inflation problems among all servers. So please check the auction house (atleast within the last two or three weeks) before posting.
RE: Bah!
# Apr 17 2005 at 12:56 AM Rating: Decent
i remember buying my two astral ring on Unicorn for 240k for BOTH. Darn, i should have bought about 12, i had the cash for it too. /sigh
would like to buy
# Mar 25 2005 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm on fairy server and i would like to buy 1 for 800k
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