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# May 07 2008 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
I'm pretty sure i've never seen an amber drop these. Amethyst only it seems.
Used to get more of these.
# Jan 10 2008 at 12:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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I used to get more of these when I level low jobs in Gustaberg. Now I barely get any.
selling
# Nov 04 2006 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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these used to be my main source of money, as a nub (1k a shot and sold really quickly, it was awesome); however, nowadays, I just desynth these bad boys, and quickly becoming my main source of money again, just in a different way :P
Desynth
# Oct 29 2006 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
Lots of misinformation about the desynth on these.

For starters, the desynth cap is 53, meaning that if you start desynthing these for skillup at ~51 Smithing, you'll get reasonable skillups. They won't be nearly as fast as a normal 'creation' synth, but they will come.

Next up, people attempting to desynth these on anything other than Lighteningsday, Lightsday and (to a lesser extent) Darksday are either a) wasting the time they took to farm them or b) wasting the gil they spent to buy them.

4 rules to desynthing for skillup/profit:

1) Be within 2 points of cap for skillups.
2) Desynth on Lightningsday/Lightsday for best results.
3) Face SW or W when desynthing.
4) Expect quite a few breaks.

With smithing @ 53, my best option for skillups is making Darksteel Sheets which, if I bought the Ingots by the stack at AH and didn't break *any* synths, would earn a 15-25k profit/stack, and they sell slowly. Farming the Backplates and desynthing them for Darksteel Ingots would take a lot longer than buying the ingots, but the only out-of-pocket expense would be the crystals to desynth them with. Right now, a stack of Darksteel Sheets sells on my server for 160-170k. Not fantastic profit given the time requirement, but certainly better than farming Beehive Chips :P
Desynth
# Dec 27 2005 at 8:44 PM Rating: Good
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66 Smithing, and the results vary. Success rate is usually about 60%, and i've had Darksteel come out as much as 6/25, and as low as 0/25. It's sheer luck, but a good run can make you VERY rich, very fast.

Bronze and Iron is front-load material, and can be processed into other things, or just resold. My 51 THF's TH2 has about a 75% drop rate per Ameythsts.

Jury is still out whether it's best to just pick off the Amethyst, and move on, or clean out entire rooms for more repops
{Hmmm.}
# Aug 15 2005 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
This is "far too heavy" for me to wear... yet I can carry 60 at a time...
Desynthesis Informaton
# Mar 21 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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These can either be desynthed with Lightning or Wind Crystals to obtain either Ingots or Sheets (respectively).

Lightning:
NQ - Bronze Ingot
HQ1 - Iron Ingot
HQ2 - Darksteel Ingot
HQ3 - Darksteel Ingot

Wind:
NQ - Bronze Sheet
HQ1 - Iron Sheet
HQ2 - Darksteel Sheet
HQ3 - Darksteel Sheet
Rule haha!!
# Dec 21 2004 at 5:00 AM Rating: Default
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It's so easy to farm for these plates. Don't buy them from people like alexdoll. If you need to synth them just go farm them it's so much easier.
RE: Rule haha!!
# Apr 03 2005 at 2:37 PM Rating: Default
It's so true. I make huge trains in the lower two levels of Pal mines (like, every single quad), kill them all with a -ga or two, and get anywhere from 7-12 plates at a time. By the time I'm done desynthing them, the quads repop and repeat ^.^
1k my ass
# Nov 30 2004 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
ill tell u why we wont buy these damn backplates @ 1k....

failrate is quite high on these and darksteel is RARE!

even with 10 lvls above cap i ***** these up bout 5/10

and darksteel maybe 1/10 that i actually synthed

do the math
RE: 1k my ass
# Aug 02 2005 at 1:48 AM Rating: Decent
lol 10 lvls above cap.... 97 smithing, 40+ lvls over the cap, and i desynthed 30 and got 0 darksteel...
Only Amythyst
# Nov 30 2004 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I have swept those mines clean countless time in order to make money and I know for a fact that these only drop from Amythyst. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a screenshot of the text to back it up.

Until then, is it possible to get them to take Amber Quadav off of the list of mobs that drop these?
RE: Only Amythyst
# Aug 02 2005 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
LoL they dont drop from just amytheyst but they are a rarer drop than the other items like shell shields and fire crystals..
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 01 2004 at 2:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) they drop from both! Anyways those of you complaining about the price going down need to rule. I rule Windy Sandy and Bastok AH with Quadav Backplates I farm and buy all the cheap basturds out. I make sure I make 1k each. TAKE OVER buy the low price moron and sell his back for 1k!
RE: Amber and Amethyst
# Nov 08 2004 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
Yes! just like real buisness men, buy out the competition, raise prices. make a Monopoly TODAY!
RE: Amber and Amethyst
# Mar 01 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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lol, you forgot the 'disinformation campaign' part where he told people that the backplates drop from more than just Amethyst.

Really... honestly, no ******** - ONLY Amethyst drop the backplates - both in Gustaberg and in Palborough for sure. Gone there many times with THF sub for treasure hunter, killed thousands of quadavs there, and only the Amethyst drop them.
Backplates
# Sep 28 2004 at 8:48 AM Rating: Default
I've just got one of these things from an Amber on the South Gustaberg, so it seems as if they're dropped in places other than the mines.
#Zackary, Posted: Sep 03 2004 at 11:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Okay...Let me play the bad guy here for a second, and go back to where you people claimed that only certain Quadav in the mines drop them. Wrong. EVERY Quad on lvls 1-2 of the Pal Mines can drop these. I've been farming these for a LONG time, and I've gotten drops off of every Quadav on these floors. Please keep false information to yourself...Thank you.
RE: -.-
# Oct 06 2004 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe YOU should keep misinformation to yourself.

Only...Amethyst...Quadavs...drop...this...
RE: -.-
# Sep 11 2004 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
Then you must be on some special server since only Amethyst Quadav drops these Backplates.
Desynth Cap?
# Aug 16 2004 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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OK, so we all know that Lightning Crystal + whatever is desynthesis right? And we all know that desynthing items desnt raise skill right? So what is the deal with the caps on desynthing these backplates?
RE: Desynth Cap?
# Aug 17 2004 at 1:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually, you can skill on desynthesis. :3 From my experince though, it just takes longer, and the caps are much higher than synthing the actual item instead.
ya foo
# Jul 07 2004 at 1:46 PM Rating: Default
amber quadav's drop this foo,

i just got one out of an amber quadav....foo
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 07 2004 at 9:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if these sell for like 500-1000 on servers....and iron ingots sell forlike 2.5k+ and darksteel ingots sell for ALOT more...then we can raise the price on these things...hehe
Backplates
# Jul 01 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
These used to go for 700, but now ppl dropped them way down to 500. :( I spent 6 hours farming these (I ran into the mines with just my sword and would farm these til my inventory was full). And now the market has dropped them down. Hopefully they'll be back to 700-900 in a few hours.
PROFIT!
# Jun 29 2004 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
Woo i love quadav backplates, it's the best way to make money. Get 17 of these woo!!! easy 10k This is the best way to make cash because, the drops and mobs are easy at lvl 20. I've been doing this for 20 lvls. And until i reach lvl 40 i'm staying there. The only thing that is better then quadav backplate is quadav helm. So if you need quick cash. hunt backplates.
Correction
# Mar 18 2004 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
I'm sure that only Amethyst Quadav's drop this. Amber Quadav's don't.
RE: Correction
# Jun 29 2004 at 6:10 AM Rating: Decent
yes only amethyst quadavs
It's a Gold Mine
# Feb 19 2004 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, on Cerberus, these backplates sell for an easy 800 in Bastok. They do sell very quickly, and my friend made 20k in under 2 hours by doing this.
Backplate
# Jan 23 2004 at 10:47 AM Rating: Default
I'm a lvl 24 WAR on Ramuh, I can sell 'em in San d'Oria for about 1k/pop, depending on the economy at a given time.
Synthing With Backplates...
# Jan 19 2004 at 3:19 PM Rating: Default
This can be seperated into Iron or Darksteel Ingots with a lightning crystal. I'm told it requires around Level 48 Smithing to reliably get Darksteel out of them, and I believe that's the +1 synth.
Quad Armor
# Jan 12 2004 at 1:23 AM Rating: Default
I sell these for 500 a pop. They sell also very fast. I tried to see for 600 and it didn't sell. If I go for Gil run, I usually go for this item. A sure sell in the AH, plus Turtles as I call them, also drop Gil / Shell Shield / or Crystals. By the way, this item is not so rare. I can go to pmines and get about 4 - 6 in 1 run. Also found in S & N Gust.
Darkmetal
# Dec 08 2003 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
So that is where I can get that Darkmetal.
Synthesis
# Dec 05 2003 at 11:00 PM Rating: Default
It is possible to combine a backplate with a lightning crystal, but I don't know what the end result is, what the skill needed to do it is, and what the skill level is to do it either. I just know it's possible.
RE: Synthesis
# Jan 26 2005 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
You can get a Bronze Ingot, Iron Ingot, or Darksteel Ingot from Desynthing these. A friend of mine, bless her heart, desynths these for me whenever I can bring them to her. Her smithing skill is I think 63 (I'm not sure though), but a few get lost each batch, so I guess your skill has to be 70+. *Shrugs*
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