Destroyers
my question is, when the latent effect kicks in does the delay vanishe or does just the dmg change?
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Only the part after "Latent affect:" is changed, therefore delay would not change.
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Maaannn I'm drooling over these H2H's. If anyone on Lakshmi is available to help do Double Dragonian, I'd greatly appreciate it^^ :)
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I have these as well and they are unlocked. Know lots of mnk's with them and they never lock back up. As for the KS30 to do, I suggest Double Dragorian. My experience is that it drops from there pretty easily (I've now seen 7/15 runs) I am always willing to go and help for free even if im not bringing an orb. Give me a /tell in game on Hades if you want to go. i know some of my friends want dissector so it should be fairly simple to gather a party to go.
Leejunfan
75 mnk, 41 nin, 40 war
AFv2 3/5 Melee gloves, Melee hose, Melee gaiters
Shura 1/3 Shura Togi Obtained
Destroyers
Relic knuckles lvl 2 >,<
Leejunfan
75 mnk, 41 nin, 40 war
AFv2 3/5 Melee gloves, Melee hose, Melee gaiters
Shura 1/3 Shura Togi Obtained
Destroyers
Relic knuckles lvl 2 >,<
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Posted: Mar 18 2006 at 8:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) been wondering about this if you get some WS points and all of a sudden you die and lv down will the ws points start all over again or will all the points you earned stay the same?
Which BCNM would you all recommend to get Destroyers? I have enough KS's for only 3 runs, so I don't want to die and waste my chance, and of course do the BCNM which has the best droprate if there is one...?
Or even better, if there's anyone out there on Unicorn that is trying any of the BCNM's for this, please let me know and I can buy the lot for it off of your PT if you don't need these, because I know there are many instances where destroyers are simply thrown out and this makes me hurt inside ;.;
Or even better, if there's anyone out there on Unicorn that is trying any of the BCNM's for this, please let me know and I can buy the lot for it off of your PT if you don't need these, because I know there are many instances where destroyers are simply thrown out and this makes me hurt inside ;.;
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I still haven't understood if the Latent Effect is PERMANENT once unlocked, or if it locks/unlocks after 500ws.
There are some who say once unlocked it's permanent.
There are those who say that every 500 WS points you unlock it and lock it accordingly.
Where is the truth? And do you have proof?
There are some who say once unlocked it's permanent.
There are those who say that every 500 WS points you unlock it and lock it accordingly.
Where is the truth? And do you have proof?
I use heart snatcher as main hand weapon for solo/farming. I unlocked it long long ago. In other words, the time I've had it unlocked far exceeds the time I've had it locked...and it is still unlocked.
I know this because the damage per swing was for less than my offhand dagger, Garuda's, when locked. Since I got it unlocked, the damager per swing was, and still is, greater than the offhanded Garuda's dagger.
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Destroyers are the best H2h weapons for mnk. Latent is taken off after 300 points(or so my 75 mnk friend told me who has had them for a while).I tried doing Royale Ramble, which was pretty easy until we got to the King who kicked our asses. So i decided to do Double Dragonian. A lot easier compared to Royale Ramble, did 6 runs wiped once, and NO FREAKIN DESTROYERS!!!! 2Dissectors, 2Subduers, 1 Heart snatcher /sigh. I'm still pissed ;; so i guess i'll try and get a manaburn pt for Copy Cat. Oh and btw the latent is permanent people!!! Ever fight a mnk with these weapons on in ballista? It sucks to say the lest lol. Thats why i need them so bad! XD 74mnk and still using wagh bagkan??? oh well, i'll get them soon @.@
I still haven't understood if the Latent Effect is PERMANENT once unlocked, or if it locks/unlocks after 500ws.
There are some who say once unlocked it's permanent.
There are those who say that every 500 WS points you unlock it and lock it accordingly.
Where is the truth? And do you have proof?
There are some who say once unlocked it's permanent.
There are those who say that every 500 WS points you unlock it and lock it accordingly.
Where is the truth? And do you have proof?
Any way to tell how many you already have done with the weapon... >_>???
Yes I would love to know the truth too.
i went on a day when there was a blm crew doing ks30 desert swarm runs in washroom shrine. brought a clotho orb and kindly asked the blms to help me manaburn Copycat. took 2 runs for the destroyers to drop.
pt setup was 4 blms 1 brd and the orb-holder(me). basic strat is go nuke happy and stun the NMs -ga's and AM. bard sleeps NM as needed. orb-holder sits back and watches.
NM (an ahriman) will charm pt members, one at a time. so if orb-holder is a high level melee he/she should go naked or use a low-level job. NM will also copy and use its current charmed victim's 2hr @50% health.
first run was experimental, but 2nd run took 4 mins 8 secs
Edited, Thu Sep 8 11:54:04 2005
pt setup was 4 blms 1 brd and the orb-holder(me). basic strat is go nuke happy and stun the NMs -ga's and AM. bard sleeps NM as needed. orb-holder sits back and watches.
NM (an ahriman) will charm pt members, one at a time. so if orb-holder is a high level melee he/she should go naked or use a low-level job. NM will also copy and use its current charmed victim's 2hr @50% health.
first run was experimental, but 2nd run took 4 mins 8 secs
Edited, Thu Sep 8 11:54:04 2005
I too got Copycat manaburned was me 73mnk/36war and 5 73+ blms i ran up naked with just a warp cudgel on and they all thundaga3 it. After which i voke and i get charmed and do lil to no damage to a poor lil taru blm then about 1 min later charm wears and i run up voke warcry to no avail. 1 blm died but the nm was killed justly in under 5 mins. First orb first drop. Personally with what i have heard about the double dragonian i would suggest doing this one for destroyers. Can easily be manaburned plus if you like me and had 60 seals you can come back and do a Desert Swarm after and get a D ingot too lol. Oh one last thing to all you monks out there. BRING A WEAK *** CLUB WITH YOU. That way when you get charmed you dun kill everyone in the bcnm and ***** yourself.
I just did the KS30 double dragonian for these...wiped 2/3 times and yes the destroyers did drop. First time his body slam just ******* owned us, seocond time only pld,whm and blm were up and blm RR and nuked it for the win. Third time About 75% through the brd the war woke up ran up and body slamed us and we wiped (the brd took off whms RR so we got owned with no raise).
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I heard that once, after 500 ws points, you "unlocked" the latent effect, the latent effect will be "locked" again after another 500 ws points. Is this true?
Also, how do those ws points work? Do you actually need to use a ws on every mob everytime, or just kill 500 ep's with it?
Thanks ^^
Also, how do those ws points work? Do you actually need to use a ws on every mob everytime, or just kill 500 ep's with it?
Thanks ^^
I've used my destroyers to help friends break their latents...still handing out crits like candy. ^^
It doesn't wear off.
It doesn't wear off.
If the ws points you talk about is the same as the trial ws points it works like this:
Solo-WS: 1 pt. (Any WS can be used)
Start LVL1 SC: 1 pt. (Reverberation, Liquefaction etc...)
Close LVL1 SC: 2 pt.
Start LVL2 SC: 2 pt. (Distortion, Fragmentation etc...)
Close LVL2 SC: 3 pt.
Start LVL3 SC: 3 pt. (Darkness, Light)
Close LVL3 SC: 5 pt.
You only get points from using the weapon skill like shown above. No points are awarded for kills, unless death occurs from a weapon skill. As for the Latent effect going away after 500 i have no idea.
Solo-WS: 1 pt. (Any WS can be used)
Start LVL1 SC: 1 pt. (Reverberation, Liquefaction etc...)
Close LVL1 SC: 2 pt.
Start LVL2 SC: 2 pt. (Distortion, Fragmentation etc...)
Close LVL2 SC: 3 pt.
Start LVL3 SC: 3 pt. (Darkness, Light)
Close LVL3 SC: 5 pt.
You only get points from using the weapon skill like shown above. No points are awarded for kills, unless death occurs from a weapon skill. As for the Latent effect going away after 500 i have no idea.
I got these about a few weeks ago
they're really nice because they deal high damage with low delay.
even without the acc on the weapon, at the end levels with sole sushi, you shouldn't have much problems hitting things.
someone in my LS went to ballista with those..
he whipe out half of the other team with hundred fist. +6% crit is very noticble.
they're really nice because they deal high damage with low delay.
even without the acc on the weapon, at the end levels with sole sushi, you shouldn't have much problems hitting things.
someone in my LS went to ballista with those..
he whipe out half of the other team with hundred fist. +6% crit is very noticble.
The latent effect is removed after 500 WS points. same as the 240 WS weapons, but with 500 points instead of 300.
edit: the latent effect is **ACTIVATED** after 500 ws points. so after 500 ws points with this weapon, they become DMG+18 delay+48 critical hit rate+6%. these are among the best h2h in the game once unlocked.
Edited, Wed Apr 6 04:07:17 2005
edit: the latent effect is **ACTIVATED** after 500 ws points. so after 500 ws points with this weapon, they become DMG+18 delay+48 critical hit rate+6%. these are among the best h2h in the game once unlocked.
Edited, Wed Apr 6 04:07:17 2005
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A friend of mine told me that I would need 30 Kindred seals to get this, I am guessing from looking at the BCNM weapons having similar traits that it is in one of the BC's. More information would be great still :)
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I am going to get these for sure, and if anyone knows where to get them, and would share it, i would be forever grateful ^^ thanks
http://ffxi.cannotlinkto/itemdb/6173
That's the list of the 2 BCNM that possibly drop the destroyers.
Edited, Wed Mar 23 06:41:42 2005
That's the list of the 2 BCNM that possibly drop the destroyers.
Edited, Wed Mar 23 06:41:42 2005
um your link might have been upgraded but there is 3 bcnm's on that sight there
does anyone know where or how to get these weapons? please share with us all if you know!
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I have a 75mnk friend on Sylph that has these and he also tells me that the latent effect can be worked off until those stats become the main, atm he hasn't used em enough to be able to say for sure weather or not this is true but i'm definately gonna keey an eye out on this ^^
--Seeco
--Seeco
its like the weapons of trial for the WSs. u need 500 WS afaik,then the latent effect becomes normal. a friend of me has such a katana.
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i saw a WAR/MNK using them on sylph too (skillup)
i only want them bc of the name and they are free ^^
i only want them bc of the name and they are free ^^
But wait....
Once the Latten effect is "Unlocked" Its permanent???
Will the weapon there after be at:
"18 DMG and 48 DLY" and also have the Critical %?"
Sooooo....? Forever after the requirements?
Once the Latten effect is "Unlocked" Its permanent???
Will the weapon there after be at:
"18 DMG and 48 DLY" and also have the Critical %?"
Sooooo....? Forever after the requirements?
Man, this is one of the best h2h weapons I'd say. To work off the latent effect, you need to kill 300 Ep+ mobs with them, such like for the quested ws's.
If you see, you will get 18 base damage with the latent effect off, and +6 critical hit rate. What is awsome is having 18 base damage with a delay of +48!!
That is just awsome.
If you see, you will get 18 base damage with the latent effect off, and +6 critical hit rate. What is awsome is having 18 base damage with a delay of +48!!
That is just awsome.
it seems to my idea that the latent effect is with subing mnk?
well im just takeing a guess..
plz dont bomb me XD!
well im just takeing a guess..
plz dont bomb me XD!
actually the latent effect trigger is uknown but beleives to be like relic knuckles
after 300-500 ws (varies depending on who you talk to) the latent effect wears off and they are dmg 18 critical hitrate 6%.
after another set back to the original.
after 300-500 ws (varies depending on who you talk to) the latent effect wears off and they are dmg 18 critical hitrate 6%.
after another set back to the original.
Scholar
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It's definately 500 points and it never resets. I have a pair of these with an activated and latent and I've done more than 100 dark or light skill chains since I activated them. They still have +18 damage and +6% to crits.
Edited, Tue Feb 14 09:26:04 2006
Edited, Tue Feb 14 09:26:04 2006
the number on the TRIALS weapons (not relic) is based on the level of skillchain and whetether or not its opened or closed. so yes it is variable... and NO i dont believe these latents can be "worked off"
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