hmmm... WHM, BLM, BRD, SMN, Enhances Fast Cast.. does this make any sence for what so ever?? /RDM I can see.. but what BRD WHM or SMN subs RDM? I do BLM/RDM, but thats because my main is RDM..
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Posted:Jul 23 2005 at 1:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok... So I posted the EXACT SAME THING and got rated down and this guy post what I said and gets a 5.00??????????? WTH!
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Posted:Oct 15 2005 at 9:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) why don't you learn to read before you fracking sit here blasting somone! EVERYONE who mentioned Hrotti or Tatami said the EXACT same thing u did, that it ADDS the effect even if u don't have it (not the other way around).
And yet Enhances Killer Effects gives you the killer effects if you don't have them. Look, the only way we're gonna know for sure if this gives Fast Cast or not is to get some BLM/WHM to wear them and test them out. Anyone who has these, PLEASE end the worthless bickering and TEST them. Post your results here and at the BLM forum.
after doing dynamis yesterday as BLM/WHM i forgot to change my sub back to WHM for EXP. with WHM sub i casted around 80% when i leveled up i casted 60-65%. i ahve yet to try these with rdm sub to see how much they stack :D
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Posted:Jul 22 2005 at 11:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) enhances fast cast:
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Posted:Jul 22 2005 at 10:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Enhances "Fast Cast" means you have you possess the trait first before you can enhance it. So unless you are RDM/ or /RDM dont bother.
No, it does not mean you must have the trait first. Ever heard of Hrotti or Seiryu's sword? They grant their effects. Secondly... rdm cant even equip these boots. Look at the item before u speak, and test what you think about it. Have a nice day.
Does this mean if you have inhace dual wield you CAN DUAL WIELD this would be good for mages in pt when curing swap for this item and yands or mnd + weapon without ahving sub
Notice that it says Enhances effect of "Dragon Killer"
Yet, everyone who has ever had this sword (mostly paladins) knows it will intimidate dragons such as Fafnir, Nidhogg, Jorm, Tiamat, Vrtra, and even wyverns like Seiryu and Ungur. But PLD/WAR and PLD/NIN do not have the dragon killer trait.
Question: Why does it say Enhances the effect of "Dragon Killer" and not Adds the effect of "Dragon Killer"?
Answer: If it only added the effect and you already had the Dragon Killer effect, it would do nothing. This gives a stackable boost to the killer effects. So if you already have dragon killer, it adds a certain percentage boost to it. Also if you have more than one 'Enhances Dragon Killer' item, they stack for a more potent killer effect. Same thing would apply with "Enhanced Fast Cast". It probably adds some static percentage of a fast cast trait, like fast cast +10% or something like that.
many bards do sub rdm for the fast cast effect, and you dont lose *that* much mp b/c eh whm or rdm sub.. neither is going to give that much mp... say whm gives 150 (not as sub) and rdm gives 120.. so as a sub you only get half of that.. 75 for whm and 60 for rdm.. so there isnt that much of a difference there... also rdm you get fastcast, which helps a TON for songs that take 4 secconds to cast =)
"Enhance <insert effect here>" WILL grant you that effect if you do not already have it.
The best example of this that I can think of would be the Shield that "Enhances Killer Effects". I can't think of the name of it, I believe it's mentioned above, it's ~Lvl 70 or so. I remember Drooling over it while browsing the AH. I'm a 66 PLD on Carbuncle, and I remember asking the 75 PLD in my LS about it, questioning it's 2 million gil price tag (because other than the killer effects it's stats are only so-so). My PLD friend told me that while wielding said shield a PLD can intimidate most mobs they fight, while PLD's only get "Undead Killer" through Job Traits.
In this case if a BLM were to put these pumps on they would be granted the "Fast Cast" trait (though it may not show up under the job trait list on the menu) whereas if a RDM were to put these on, their Fast Cast trait would get a little better.
It does make sense to think you would need the effect in the first place to have it enhanced... but if you think about it, being granted a toned down version of said effect is technically enhancing what was already there... aka nothing.
He is right about the Tatami Shield. I have this shield as a BST and not only does it enhancethe killer traits I have making them go off more often it GRANTS the killer traits I do not have such as Arcana, Undead, and Dragon.
You really shouldn't mislead people when you haven't tested it yourself or heard from a friend.
It's been proven that "enhances killer effect" will give you the effect. I dont remember the name, but a while back i read about a GSWD that does "enhances dragon killer effect", and a PLD using it has intimidated a dragon.
But IDK about fast cast. Imo, it would give it to you.
Woo, I just got these with my LS. Mithra have no feet that gives decent INT, so I'm very pleased. In order to see if it really makes a difference in fast cast, I'll need to race my RDM friend with escape. Usually I barely lose with BLM/RDM, so we'll see.
Actually, Mithra have some of the best boots around, not counting end game stuff. They actually give better stats than these, unless you need the enhances fast cast trait for some reason. (I'm not high enough to know how important it is at your level.) I'm wearing the boots so you can check my profile since I forget exact stats. It took me months of not lvling rdm and 5mil gil to finally get those suckers (in a bazaar no less). Your boots are definitely awesome. :)
That's true, but I already crossed those off my list of things I can't afford. This will do instead of 5 million feet. Fast cast on warp/escape is always nice too. :)
You should have the BLM cast without pumps and no RDM sub and then with pumps and see at what % of casting the spell fires. If it does give it without RDM sub the the % when it fires should be lower obviously...
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Posted:Jul 21 2005 at 1:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Any item that states "Enhances : <ability>" means you have to have the ability for it to work. There are items that give you abilities that are not a part of your job. For example the Avenger Earrings have "Counter +1" everyone that wears that has a 1% chance to counter. These feet only enhance.. so you must have RDM as main or sub.
i can say for certain that having something that "enhances such-and-such effect" does in fact grant the effect. I was wearing crimson finger gauntlets (which allow you to be intimidated by dragon killer as hidden effect on all crimson) and i cured a pld wearing tatami shield (has "enhances all killer effects") and was intimidated by them. it does not happen often, but it does happen, which proves that you do, in fact, gain that trait.
Exactly, and even subbing BST still won't get you Beast Killer. The same as the Tatami Shield, it Enhances Killer Traits, yet I hear from people who have it that it intimidates whatever they're fighting.