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# Dec 19 2007 at 8:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wombats cannot wear this. Just in case anyone was curious.

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# Sep 12 2008 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
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What about a Dragoon/Wombat?
# Jul 14 2007 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
5 have dropped in the last week or two on shiva
# May 31 2007 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
I like how this has turned into a drg's suck forum instead of a forum about ace's helm. Sike.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 12 2006 at 12:02 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) so with this, and swift belt drk will have a fast time killin things
# Nov 15 2006 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default

Edited, Nov 15th 2006 at 12:34pm PST by Seeknay
# Jan 30 2008 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
Wow how ignorant of you.
# Sep 02 2007 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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not anymore they dont, douchebag.
Vlap = not the brightest bulb in the box
# Oct 24 2006 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Vlap>>DRK = Blood Weapon - Makes every hit from the DRK regen his HP. Not gonna save anyone but the DRK, and he's boned once the party goes down.

I'll have you know cracker... that when and if a tank ever goes down I use last resort and soul eater, then blood weapon. I have saved parties many times by doing this, sure I am an MP sponge but I am covering the softer members (mages). So all in all, dont act like you know what the hell you are talking about, because everyone knows you fail at life. But I will say this Vlap, "A winner is you." =) ~Winsor

Edited, Oct 24th 2006 at 9:33am PDT by Winsor

Edited, Nov 8th 2006 at 8:28am PST by Winsor
Ya ok um...
# Sep 22 2006 at 11:52 PM Rating: Default
Ok um.. I am 75 DRG hades server, been 75 drg for long time... ok first off, regular hits = to or stronger then just about any other melee swing for swing, we specialize in DoT .. all dmg is about avg so we have above average swings, yet our ws's are below average so depending on what ur fighting yes we have the dmg, why ppl say mnk is better cause they get more weaker swings in per fight, if u add our dmg+wyvern yes we will outdmg most ppl regular hitting, now with weapon skills, we kinda fail but we have plently of stuff to macro to make it best as we can... on another note... people talking about our 2hr, ok lets talk about the advantages of drg 2hr shall we?

Spirit Surge:

1. The Dragoon's maximum HP is increased by roughly 15% and is healed by the Wyvern's current HP

2. The Wyvern's current TP is added to the Dragoon's and with proper timing a self-skillchain may be performed

3. adds wyverns STR to your own

4. Jump Temporarily lowers targets defense

5. High Jump causes an enemy’s TP to be reduced by a percentage proportionate to the amount of damage inflicted.

6. Super Jump causes the closest party member behind the dragoon (from the point of view of the monster) to have his or her enmity reduced by half.

7. The Wyvern's attack speed is deducted from the Dragoon's granting him increased attack speed.

8. The Wyvern's per-hit damage is added onto the Dragoon's individual attacks.

So yea, ok in pt situation where this can save the pt oh hell yes it can! for 1, in that "Oh sh^t" situation ok so main tank doesnt have hate and person bout to die, 2hr stand infront of person who has the hate who shouldnt and super Jump..
when u jump u temporarily lower targets defense which means the mob dies faster, enhances atk, atk speed, str and whatnot so, hitting alot harder, monster dies faster, yes can save a pt in a harshe situation, another thing, high jump lowes mobs tp, not the most life saving thing but losing all that tp is nice if the mob has high dmg tp moves, yes filling own hp+max hp boost only effects drg but it saves the whm/healer mp to use on other players, which in fact helps save the pt in that "oh Sh^t" situation... so basically, drg 2hr.. not benefiting a pt in dier situations.. my ***,.

ok on another note.. BRD 2hr Soul voice, yes it makes songs double whatever... yes that can save a pt by.. "Oh Sh^t we got link x3 and cant kill them all(extreme situation i know but im using it as an example) ok brd 2hrs + aoe sleep, guess what everything is asleep now ppl can rest all the mp they need while melee are provokeing slept mobs.. so yea thats also a beneficial move for pt if in diar situation...

RDM Chainspell...
um yes this does infact help the pt when the inevitable happens, the rdm should have had refresh on himself the whole time and if convert not up they should still have a good 300-500 mp by the time he decides to use 2hr, ok rdm 2hr either can A chainspell escape, B. Chainspell Stun mob if needed, C. chainspell healing magic (probably get himself killed though unless pld tank) or even chainspell nuke if mob needs good dmg taken fast, so yes rdm 2hr also benefits pt in diar situation.

meh thats my input anyways =)
# Sep 12 2006 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
Lol, got this, dont even have drg, sam or drk lvled XD Was an easy fight T4s and AM2 rip it apart.
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 11 2006 at 8:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's amazing how you guys argue like you're competing for the nobel prize...
# Jan 23 2006 at 3:45 AM Rating: Good
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Dropped today for us, first drop on Siren :D
# Feb 05 2007 at 6:50 AM Rating: Decent
First Ace's on Siren in 2006? <.<;;;;;;;;
Yeah right the game has been released 3 years before in Japan -.-;;;;;;;
Can everyone stop the "I'm da 1st to get that!!"...
# Feb 27 2007 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Livesenjel wrote:
First Ace's on Siren in 2006? <.<;;;;;;;;
Yeah right the game has been released 3 years before in Japan -.-;;;;;;;
Can everyone stop the "I'm da 1st to get that!!"...

Well King Vinegarroon hasn't been around since JP release. He was added like a year ago or so. Maybe year and a half tops. His drop% is also absolutly HORRIBLE. We are in the neighborhood of 0/40 or so on KV. So saying that he is first to get one on a server can actually be true considering he claimed to have received it in 2006 when the mob was actually added.
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 23 2005 at 4:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Drg s get alot of pointless gear dont they,any now way, it lools like a lvl 66 Scorpion helm, and it is pretty much a souped up helm to the one that Drk get when they smack 60, it is very good for samurai hence the +haste *sam hit slow enuff* as well as drk's, drg's ...well for being a bad job square makes up for that with giving them a horde of nice parting gifts. the main reason drg isnt as great as a melee as other jobs is its more of the fact ofthe hr2 you like to call "FREAKING LIL DRAGON THAT GETS IN OTHERS WAY!" the dragoons over all selfbeing is around that lil pokemon, so when you sub something (anything) the dragon gets effect the most of it
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# Sep 21 2005 at 8:41 PM Rating: Excellent
500 posts
If you add up all the damage a Wyvern does in an EXP pt over the course of 2 hours, it outdamages most if not all the other 2hrs in the game. One of the reasons why no one notices is it does this gradually and DoT....
RE: -_-
# Nov 03 2005 at 6:26 PM Rating: Default
yeah it easily does way more damamge over the course of 2hrs... but in general that's not the point of a 2hr. A 2hr is supposed to do a lot of *something* in a very short period of time. drg (and sort of bst) is the only exception (but bst is the exception to everything). and really, you need your wyvern just to keep your damamge up with everyone else (although the recent acc bonus helps a lot too).

so basically, that's nothing to brag aobut :(
RE: -_-
# Nov 04 2005 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
What are you talking about? First off, i do more than enough damage to keep up with other DD without my wyvern out. Having my wyvern out is bonus damage, that more than makes up for weak WS numbers.

On top of that, how many 2hrs will actually save a party? Let's analyze..

BRD = Soul Voice - Makes songs work better and stay on longer. Not gonna save a party.

DRK = Blood Weapon - Makes every hit from the DRK regen his HP. Not gonna save anyone but the DRK, and he's boned once the party goes down.

THF = Perfect Dodge - Makes every attack on the THF miss. Again, not gonna save anyone but the THF, and he's boned once the party goes down.

RDM = Chainspell - Eliminates casting time between spells. The only problem is by the time a RDM thinks of using this, they've already Converted and used up most of their 2nd string of MP.

The truth is, you have to know how to use your 2hr to make it effective in a "holy sh*t" situation. Otherwise, it's just a good way to get yourself killed.
see: Benediction, Mijin Gakure, Manafont, Eagle Eye Shot, Mighty Strikes, etc.

Saying a DRG 2hr is useless compared to other 2hrs, in so many words, is ignorant. I'm sorry, but it is.

Edited, Sat Nov 5 00:31:34 2005
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# Jan 18 2007 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
to what Vlap said, where is sam 2hr? lol or mnk? they save pts because they kick the s*** out of whatever is they target^^
RE: -_-
# May 16 2006 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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On top of that, how many 2hrs will actually save a party? Let's analyze..
BRD = Soul Voice - Makes songs work better and stay on longer. Not gonna save a party.

RDM = Chainspell - Eliminates casting time between spells. The only problem is by the time a RDM thinks of using this, they've already Converted and used up most of their 2nd string of MP.

1rts rdm because its easier to explain.

Rdm-->chainspell--->escape. Party saved in 2 seconds. Many other uses, and smart rdm will use in conjuction w/convert to maximize it.

2nd brd.
Arguably one of the best 2 hours in game. Able to make a standard xp party cut through multiple IT's in a jam like they are nothing. Turns them into gods for about 5 minutes when timed right.

Its use endgame, in BC's, and boss battles is phenominal. Give a mnk + 52 mnd for their chi blast/threnody mob for -130 elemental resitance/uber haste the nins/add +180ish to att/+6 mp per tick...
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# Dec 13 2005 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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This is why Spirit Surge was implimented.

Sucks that Call Wyvern is still DRG main only, but eh. At least it's 20 minutes instead of 2 hours. :D
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# Feb 06 2006 at 5:50 PM Rating: Default
309 posts
No, it doesn't suck that Call Wyvern is DRG main only. This is what makes DRG special, all the other DRG abilities(Including Job Traits unless they have added more) can be gained from subbing DRG, and spirit surge kinda sucks TBH. @lv65 woohoo+15STR and +250HPmax +15STR isnt gonna save your ***, while it will increase your damage, you lose your wyvern, so you're losing damage from him that ignores the targets def. My wyvern does anywhere from 10-35 on exp mobs(sometimes 50 on crits), he also attacks twice as fast as I do. So sacrifice (10-35)x2 for +15str which probably doesn't even increase your damage by more than 5 per hit, and maybe up to 100 on a WS. You still lose out on damage.
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# Feb 11 2006 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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hmm well spirit surge is manly intended for those fights where your wyvern is useless~ a good example of this is promyvion mea or ultima/omega~ their aoes (carousel guided missle and equiliser) literally one shot wyverns... so either way the wyvern will die so using spirit surge is an advantage there... cus you can either~ not use spirit surge and ur wyvern dies due to aoe.. or you can use spirit surge~ wyvern dies~ but u get all that nice + effects ^^
RE: -_-
# Sep 22 2005 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
202 posts
Preach on, Bro, preach on....
Just to add, for those of you who don't know DoT = Damage over Time. This means that DRGs may not put up uber high amounts of damage per hit like a DRK might but when you add up the damage done across the course of the entire battle, our damage output is usually equal to or greater than other melee especially when you factor in the damage from our wyverns.
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# Aug 18 2005 at 12:50 AM Rating: Default
I hear ya on the mnk head gear, who cares. Yes the mnk belts kick *** but so do the quests to get them. brown belt is 1.5 mil on phoenix and being a 55 mnk I can only fear the black belt quest.
Why SE? Why?
# Aug 13 2005 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
628 posts
Soo... When does MNK get anything worth wearing on their head? I see tons of great gear for every other melee like this helm, for instance, that would be great MNK gear, but, alas, we ge hosed all the time.
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RE: Why SE? Why?
# Aug 24 2005 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
MNKs get a ridiculous amount of ridiculously awesome equipment compared to DRG, so really you should just gtfo... but if you wanna know what MNKs get for headgera, try looking up this little tiny mob called Genbu. He drops this helmet that's insanely awesome for MNK.
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Sep 04 2005 at 2:25 AM Rating: Default
genbu kabuto is like only good for charka lol,
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Oct 07 2005 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
Asuran Fists damage is partly based on VIT, so Kabuto is very good for more than just Chakra....
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Oct 15 2005 at 12:43 AM Rating: Default
asurn fist is based on 50% vit OR 50% str, check out the ws modifier guide, id use meel crown over kabuto.
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Nov 22 2005 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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actually.. its 10% str and vit..
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RE: Why SE? Why?
# Aug 01 2006 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
8 hits so I know its not realy a direct comparison but couldnt it be compaired to a 80% str and vit?
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Oct 24 2005 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Voyager Sallet looks to be the best option for head gear, it's just no fun to get. (Most monks are used to this scenario now. LoL). Frenzy Sallet is nice, but at a heck of a cost and I'm not talking the 12mil price tag (Cerberus). LoL. At 75 you have Melee Crown (good luck :-b) or Shura Kabuto for that nice STR+.

As far as Kabuto, great for Chakra, MIGHT be good for Asuran. As previously stated, it's either STR or VIT. Seeing as I have a good amount of +STR and only moderate +VIT, I'll still macro swap kabuto in before Asuran. It's worth a shot. LoL

As far as belt quests (mentioned up above), tell me about it. LoL. On Black Belt now and have 1/3. Luckily it's the beard. LoL.

Edited, Mon Oct 24 16:10:47 2005
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Aug 21 2005 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
why r u crying...look at how much stuff SE has given drg....and none of them r any good..monks get tons of **** so stop crying and b happy for what u got
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Aug 20 2005 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
quit whinning... lvl your mnk then get O-Hat... then ALOT later.... Shura armor
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Aug 14 2005 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
When every other melee job has something half as good as MNK belts.
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Aug 14 2005 at 12:57 AM Rating: Default
You can just shut the hell up. MNK has alot more gear to wear than smn and no one realy cares that you dont have anyhting great to wear on your head.
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Aug 14 2005 at 12:07 PM Rating: Default
He said 'melee'. Since when did smn become a melee job? Maybe you should "shut the hell up".
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Sep 22 2005 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
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SMN can melee -.- I see it all the time, so why don't you all "shut the hell up"
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Oct 12 2005 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
I've re-read my post multiple times now and still can't find the part where I said that SMN can't melee. Be a pal and point it out, please.
RE: Why SE? Why?
# Dec 14 2005 at 11:26 PM Rating: Good
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I think by 'Melee Job', people mean a job that can hit more than 3 times in fight on an experience mob, and hit for more than 10 damage.

Sure, that Summoner over there CAN melee, but is he going to contribute anything more than a headache?
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# Aug 12 2005 at 11:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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For those of you who wish to know the mythology behind this helm:

Ace is the Pet Detective from 1994 film starring Jim Carry Ace Ventura: Pet Detective

This helm was used during the "Lion Sleeps Tonight" scene. Although unseen by the viewers, the helm was being worn by the land lord character Ace refers to as "Satan?" earlier in the film as he watches Ace and Melissa Robinson (Courteney Cox) making love.
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# Jun 28 2006 at 12:25 AM Rating: Good
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I've seen pics of this...
# Aug 12 2005 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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Some JP site had it up, it looks like the Scorpion carapace set.
# Aug 12 2005 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Yay I'm the first to post...

Anyways, looks like a very good helm, too bad it's not a lower lvl
RE: Yay
# Aug 12 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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lower level version
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