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Fomor Hate
# Feb 02 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
Can fomor hate be built by killing all Fomors?
Was killing the ones outside of Whitegate earlier, wondered if i went back it would increase my hate by killing some more?
Fun times...
# Nov 13 2008 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
I got this belt a while back. Fairly easy fight actually. I went with the following:

THF50 or BST50 (Did 4 runs total, in that time we had people change jobs)

For all 4 runs we ended up fighting Balor. Fight was fairly easy with that setup just gotta have the NIN's Toss hate back and forth. I think we popped the NM a total of 6 times but 4/6 isn't that bad. We did try to fight the Elvaan NM, forgot name for him though. Got it down to 5% than wiped lol.

Server: Gilgamesh
Swift Belt = fail
# Mar 23 2008 at 5:14 PM Rating: Default
257 posts
so i'm 0/13 atm.... cool amirite? /wrists ><

2 more codexes to use, heres to hoping for 1/15! >.>
I hate you, SE
# Feb 28 2008 at 1:32 AM Rating: Excellent
2,722 posts
So... My CoP LS has recently made our way past Ouryu. Yay. Farmed some Codexes (had a total of 7 for 6 belts...). Started fighting Balor. Originally, we only had one Hume with us, so we were going to go Hume -> Elvaan -> Hume -> Elvaan. First time on Balor, we get our first belt. But, our first time on the Elvaan, we wiped. Twice. Sucked, too, cause it was my codex...

We come back four days later. Maxed hate on those who could spawn AND we picked up two more Humes. 3 humes, all about 10 kills apart (perfect, huh?). We only kill Balor. He drops... 1, 2, 3, 4 more. In a row. My turn comes up, and before we even kill any more fomors, our third hume has enough hate to spawn. We do. We own. And nothing drops. That's right, we went 5/6. And who gets screwed out of a belt? Me. And, since it's an hour past MY bed time, I have to call it off for a night.

Balor, I hope you're sleeping well tonight. You won't be so happy tomorrow.
I hate you, SE
# May 24 2008 at 3:47 AM Rating: Default
tehe, you have a bed time... sucker... ;P
# Jan 17 2008 at 6:56 PM Rating: Default
I stayed up for 58 hours straight to get this. I went 0/9 over just those hours..I wouldn't get drop then I'd go right to farming hate and getting another pickup group for NM. We never wiped, I just never got drop. I got to see the other people go 6/8 on their NMs tho lol. I finally got my belt on 10th codex of that 58 hours.
# Oct 14 2007 at 11:47 PM Rating: Decent
1/9 yay
SE hates me
# Sep 18 2007 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
SE hates me
hope i get it on my 7th..
lucky 7??
3/4 On drop
# Jul 30 2007 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
43 posts
I just complete 4-2 so i went to check out Sacrarium and there was a party doing Swift Belt runs. They were lacking a thf so I joined them so they Had Treasure Hunter.

Apparently the Mithra NM is the easiest so we fought that one 4 times. Went 3/4 on the drop, with me getting the Killshot(I'm superstitous, along with many others).

We fought the Taru NM once, but No drop. Anyways Drop doesnt seem to be as horrid as I've always heard.
Fomor Codex
# Jul 23 2007 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
Farming Codex is easier with BST, charm slimes or the pugs. Slimes best tanks. Will get mischarms, but after Tame, it sticks. We farmed 2 in 3 hours. Stego did doom on my pets, but better my pet than me, lol.
Hate needed
# Jul 10 2007 at 5:31 AM Rating: Decent
Can anyone tell me how many Formors you have to kill to have enough hate to spawn Balor?
# Jun 20 2007 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
1,266 posts
It took 12 freaking pops, but I finally got my belt to drop. -.-
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is...more COWBELL™!!
Woodworking 100+5
Dammit all
# Apr 28 2007 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
0/9 Thanks SE!!!!! ive only seen one drop in 23 fights. As of this date im done messin with it, waste of time i could be using earning $$$

Dammit all
# May 30 2007 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
280 posts
We stacked 2 THF's into a killing party when we did it and went 3/9. When the NM would get to about 5%, we all would turn our backs to make sure the party with the THF's got the kill shot. Seemed to at least help because we were 0/2 with no THF in the party later on that day. Good luck!
Dammit all
# Jun 19 2007 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
339 posts
Just to reiterate, the THF getting the kill shot has absolutely no effect on drops whatsoever. SE stated this; it can't be any more plain. ^^;

But congrats on your drops. :)
Rale, Lakshmi, Linkshell: Jhereg, Amaranthine

Dammit all
# Dec 20 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
280 posts
But it does have an effect in terms of which *party* gets the kill shot. Meaning if one group has 6 players in it with no THF, while a THF is in the other party with 3 people, if one of the 6 gets the kill, it does effect treasure hunter in that they won't get the effect. The party with 3 in it kills the mob, TH effect kicks in is the way I have always understood it.

I know SE has stated this may not be the case even in party, but they still can't figure out why we can't kill AV either. So why even risk it when all it takes is a few seconds to turn your back and let the THF party finish it?
Dammit all
# Dec 29 2007 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
3,285 posts
SE has stated that teh thf doesnt have to be the kill shot. The thf simply just has to engage and cause some time of damage for th to work.
Dammit all
# Feb 06 2008 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
2,626 posts
If a thf in you party/group/alliance/allegiance has ended the fight on the mobs hate list (1 dagger swing will do it) then TH will become affective.

If there is more than 1 Thf in your party/group/alliance/allegiance then the TH from the THF with the highest TH will be active.

If I had the link to the fairly recent interview with SE, then id link it, but i havnt.

How and When TH becomes active has been answered now. There are no rumors, no 'piece of minds', just facts.

The questions still unanswered about TH are:

What is the difference between trasure Hunter & treasure Hunter II?
How does the treasure Hunter affect work?
Do the +1 TH items add 1% to the TH affect? Does it add 1% to Ttrasure Hunter or Treasure Hunter II?
Does treasure hunter affect different mobs drop rates in different ways?
Taking a break.
Dammit all
# Apr 05 2008 at 1:48 AM Rating: Decent
3,653 posts
If a thf in you party/group/alliance/allegiance has ended the fight on the mobs hate list (1 dagger swing will do it) then TH will become affective.

This is simply not true, SE stated quite recently that THF's only have to land one blow on a monster for TH to be active.

Here's the information.

SE wrote:


How does Treasure Hunter effect drops in battlefieds, dynamis, chest contents.

No effect on chests.
Same effect in dynamis etc. as elsewhere.
For TH to be active THF must perform an action on the target. Does not have to be killing strike.
I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don’t let anybody tell you different.
Dammit all
# Apr 12 2008 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
438 posts
Dude that's exactly what he said. Why are you saying it's not true and then repeating the same thing he said. He said all the THF had to so was do something so that the THF was on the mob hatelist by the end of the fight. Read before trying to correct people.
Fun "not"
# Apr 08 2007 at 4:30 AM Rating: Decent
Just doing a Ls run "hey AnzacPride" atm 0/4 and 2 more pops to go how painful to not even see one of my fellow crew get a drop so I can be excited for them this belt is evil it rips ur heart out lol well until next time and next time and next time Please don't let me have to go 1/7 like Vnm and so many others.
Just a note you know when u have enough hate to pop it when you get the sentance " Your common sense tells you to run as quickly as possible" All best to other guys out there hope u have more luck then us.

Edited, Apr 8th 2007 12:40pm by boady

OK update Woot Starburst got a drop so that is 1/6 pops least a main Ls nin got one hey Sweet!!!!

Edited, Apr 8th 2007 1:02pm by boady
0/9 wtf?
# Feb 16 2007 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
Im 0/9 on this ive tried full moon new moon etc......
If there is anything more i should have or do i would like to know......
# Feb 16 2007 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
I'am 0/9 on this, ive tried new moon full moon etc....
Is there somthing more i need to do before i can get this thing to drop?
please any info will be greatly appreciated.
# Dec 11 2006 at 8:22 PM Rating: Default
should i get this wen i turn this lvl or keep the life belt... note the fact that im a drk
# Nov 07 2006 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
94 posts
Im now 0/12 on this nm was 0/9 last night and had 3 people pop it for me no drops~
# Nov 06 2006 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
27 posts
my LS just go 3/3 on these on moon at 12% with 2x BLM 1 WHM 1 THF 1 MNK 2 NIN +2 ANON
Full Moon
# Oct 17 2006 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
FYI: My group went 3/3 during a full moon. We did the hume NM with the following: NIN,RDM,PLD,THF,BLU. It was a very easy fight, it was actually more of a PIA to clear the fomors in the way.
# Jul 31 2006 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
399 posts
1/6 .... Whole party screwed except the guy that went first.
thf build
# Jun 18 2006 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
707 posts
trying to incorporate this into TP build for 72+ as my THF.

CoP was nice to us o.O Rap harness, this, and bravos. throw in some dusk gloves and we're in business....
F this freaking game
# Apr 15 2006 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
Spent 12hours+ setting up and commanding the entire thing. Die 5-10 times lose 4K+ exp. Put up with who goes next garabage. EVERYTHING you could ever imagine. I go last... what do you know... no drop, a no more codex. Return to solo for another codex... die 3times thanks to Doom, have to zone out 4-5times thx to Gazer's with eyes in the back of their heads. Finally give up 2hours later, no codex and 0 fomor hate. 15+ hours later and nothing to show for it. Oh and 2days before 0/1 Argus, and then just last night decided to not go to BCNM run with my buddy who went 2/3 on pcharm...

Edit: 0/2....

Edit: 0/3....

Add-in: One problem I have with this sucker is after trading I lose all my hate(of course we all do... but if you didn't get drop you will need max again). I don't want to return on another raid with 0 hate and fomor's inside are too hard to solo. If you wanna raise your hate fight the fomor's outside Sac and B01.

Edit: 0/4....

Edited, Thu Apr 27 01:44:17 2006
Stegotaur's lower your fomor hate
# Feb 26 2006 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
Just for a note to everyone who don't know. Stegotaur's make you loose fomor hate. I don't know by how much per kill. But me and a party just killed 45 fomors for max hate to pop the NM for this quest. Then we kill alot of Stegotaur's, i don't know how many, but horrible drop rate. By the time everyone has a Fomor Codex and we get to the area to spawn the NM's. We get a message saying we have 0 fomor hate. So we take off sneak to see if its an error, and we don't get no agro. Just thought everyone would like to know incase they try to get the fomor codex's after getting the fomor hate. Belt is very nice though, definately worth a 2nd 7hour run to get it lol, althought the NM's have very low drop rates, so i'd very highly reccomend a thief to be with your party/alliance for this. Goodluck to everyone doing this!
RE: Stegotaur's lower your fomor hate
# Apr 04 2006 at 2:15 AM Rating: Good
37 posts
Actually killing the NM is what's supposed to reset your hate to 0.
RE: Stegotaur's lower your fomor hate
# Apr 25 2006 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
Killing the NM doesn't reset your hate, Trading codex resets your hate.
2 tries
# Feb 14 2006 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
2/11/06 2belts out of 9 tries

2/12/06 7 belts out of 9 tries

Hume is easiest. Bring NIN tanks. Elvaan is harder but not impossible, land all debuffs aka paralyze, slow, blind, flash.
Most thief kills= drop.

Pandemionium: Infidels LS.
Really not that difficult.
# Feb 13 2006 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
449 posts
We fought Balor. It requires a Hume with level 4 Forumer hate. The NM really isn't that hard. It uses Eagle Eye Shot which can one shot a ninja if you get caught without shadows along with the usual AOE tp reset, Stunga and 200-400AOE dmg which is blinkable. The hardest part was farming the Codex. The NM isn't much harder then one of the Forumers in the room. Make sure to clear the room to avoid agro and secondly build up some needed hate to pop. We were 5/7 with a thief dealing the final each time. Good Luck!

Oh btw each time you pop it resets the person who popped it's Forumer hate. We just got luck to have enough Humes. FYI we went in with NIN/NIN/THF/MNK/DRG/BLM/BLM/BLM/RDM. The DRG subbed whm and one BLM played a gimped whm due to lack of healing. 2 of the pops one NIN was afk so it is tankable solo, just much safer with 2. Fight lasted less then a minute each time.
Really not that difficult.
# Jul 23 2007 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
Farm with BST in Aqueducts, we got 2 within a 3 hour period.
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