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# Nov 24 2008 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
Heya,

Tested this thing out to answer some questions I had concerning proc and such. Fought over 100 EP mobs in SSG as THF/NIN, and here's what I came up with. If the data seems obvious to you, I apologize.

Proc rate stacks on top of Triple Attack rate, i.e. you get the 5% from the earring DA, plus your additional TA rate (in my case 5/5 merits+base 5% =
10%; 15% cahnce of a multiple attack).

Triple Attack and Double Attack do not compound, i.e. no 5x attack. An un-protected Sahaigin face-to-face using Assassin's Charge and Dancing Edge would take 1250-1450 damage (identical to what it did before I had the earring). This gathered from over 100 ws's, not like the bulk of these yo-yo's posts who poll from 10 or so trys and make a bogusly definitive result (e.g. "I fought 6 mobs, got the drop 3x, so it's a 50% droprate" ><).

All that being said, this earring well worth the cost (I spent 587,500g on coins on Sylph), and greatly improves your damage/sec over the course of a few mobs. I can't see how any DD would choose a different earring considering your 2 optional slots (would be tough to give up a suppo or my bushinomimi if there was only one), but that's my two cents. Hope you found this insightful.

Edited, Nov 24th 2008 4:53pm by Lucretius
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# Mar 15 2008 at 7:40 AM Rating: Default
Hi guys ,

my english is to bad to have a clear understanding on this thread ! does the earring works for thf/nin too ?!?! yes best time to booh me out for all ffxigods and all others ,... but please with a "yes it works for thf/nin " or "no forget it" ^^

Ty all
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# May 14 2008 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
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I believe it works whether you have double attack or not. So yes.
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Can you get it without Limbus or w/e??
# Mar 05 2008 at 8:38 PM Rating: Default
I wana know if you can do this without Limbus?? Cause I hate missions and I talked to the lady and she said some crap about tell your friends about me and why she was there... Plz reply to my post need to know need it for both my WAR and my NIN >,<
Can you get it without Limbus or w/e??
# Mar 06 2008 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
You can just buy the coins, but Sag won't give the option to buy stuff unless your at least on CoP 8-1.
Work for or against Kraken Offhand?
# Dec 29 2007 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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I know this earring is awesome for all melee jobs. But I would like to seek clarification on one issue. Supposing I'm offhanding a Kraken Club, with another weapon in main, would this earring be limiting the hits of the Kraken Club?
Work for or against Kraken Offhand?
# Jan 30 2008 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
Well it wouldn't limit the hits really since the 2-8 doesn' proc on every swing but you would most likely be better off with a suppa or assault earring for more acc and more swings. Multi hit weapons are all about hitting faster and getting your attacks to land after all. To answer the question the Double Attack would not proc when the 2-8 procs on the weapon so you are already lowering that 5%increase farther since it can't stack with the multi hit effect. Better than a Spike earring no doubt but I am sure that some ACC would help you far more than a little DA %+.
zomg lolarguing
# Oct 24 2007 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
/em pokes his head out to see if its safe.....
i came in here to learn about the earring and the top like 10 posts or more are fighting over which job is better.... i got a little scarred and i think i may have died a little inside.... lol
zomg lolarguing
# Nov 06 2007 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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/em pokes his head out to see if its safe.....
i came in here to learn about the earring and the top like 10 posts or more are fighting over which job is better.... i got a little scarred and i think i may have died a little inside.... lol


Costs 75 ancient beastcoins, if you buy the coins (coins ranging from 10-15k) can cost up towards 750,000 to 1,125,000 gil. Of course if you can get some for free, price will be less then that. Think it is pretty much agreed on that the "Enhances 'Double Attack' Effect" is 5% DA (And yes it grants DA wether you sub warrior or not). The double attack effect (double attack in general) will stack with WS's.

For info on Store TP, check wikipedia's page: [link=null]http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Store_TP[/link]

Overall, usually a great piece of tp and ws gear no matter what melee job you use and completely worth getting. Up to you how long you want to wait if you buy ancient beastcoins or get them for free from farming using what ever method you have.

Edited, Nov 6th 2007 2:27pm by therealcyric
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# Aug 13 2007 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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before you say sh*t about a job stfu


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stfu now
# Aug 09 2007 at 5:16 AM Rating: Decent
omfg people post about the god damn earring not ******* what jobs can out dd who
i still get more invite as war then thf so suck it
x2 attack
# Jun 30 2007 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
does this give you double attacks as if you were /war?
x2 attack
# Sep 17 2007 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, said to be about 5%, (half of what war or /war has).
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useless thread
# Jun 26 2007 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default
so... If i wnted to go in a war pwnt thf discussion id look in the job forums, but instead i want to know more about this earing, i hve both 75 thf and 75 war and they are both kickass, so stfu with all this gay **** this job better than that , this is a thread on an item, not what if what if, if u want job arguments go in job forum this is why i have killingifrit right under alla in fvorites. thnks for useless thread Mifaco thank you for the only usefull post this page.
Actually....
# Feb 28 2007 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
I've seen thiefs do very nice damage @ caedarva mire. My friend has pulled 1400 Dancing Edge on VT Flies there. Just gotta outweigh the mods of the ws with the str. In Bhaflau Thickets i've seen a galka thf doing 1600 Dancing Edge on Sea Puks /nin. So the damage would've been great if he was /war. Also, thfs don't lose much DoT time when /war. Tru enough the lose the Dual Wield but they also get double attack and can use this brutal earring. Just because ur thf/war doesn't mean you have to get rid of haste gear also. All in all it just comes to how you customize ur char.
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# Jan 31 2007 at 8:26 AM Rating: Default
WAR75 SMN75 BLM75

STR 77+55 ATT 430 base no food no buffs

Axe , crit , and Double Att max marited no war charge yet

90-180 (crit) on exp mobs such as VT in caederva mire and what not

weapon setup juggy/wood

avarage 950-1500 on VT in tpburn NO brd

I outdmg 95%+ of whoever I get to pt with me

thfs? well: SATA

parse? ok, Ima sub thf to make it fair.. SATA Steel cyclone.. for 2000+ on byakko

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what is really sad.. is that someone can come out with such a rage about just DMG on a game, and poping comments about rl.

noone is > anyone.. everyone has his good and his bad
player skills/gears > player skills > gears

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# May 08 2007 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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Oh yeah, well my ***** is 30 cm long, NO buffs!
please get a life
# Jan 06 2007 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
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I don't know what crack some of these thfs be smoking but my war even as a lolwar does like 75-100 per axe on VT mobs. With all the sh*t we get for double attack comparatively thfs get almost nothing save for homan and a weak *** tripple dagger and maybe mercurial for like 3-6 damage a hit on IT mobs lol. along with berserk and our ability to wear DD gear thfs can't even imagine that give us insane attack
Hell my base with attack food and berserk is like 650 attack. We get +4 more haste
with top armor Unicorn feet +1 more than Homan Haidates +2 and lolBlitz ring if we want.... or str base is higher than urs. we get like a 30 percent tp return on Rampage.... we have a higher str base.... like +4 more than end game thfs......so tp wise we can do just as much as you rampage on a top notch war with merits does like 1500-1800 damage on VT mob w/o warriors charge. We are geared to for that.... its our purpose.... yours is spike damage and hate management... and all that bullcrap about u getting 3k damage on Shark bite... well sorry to say those Undead with 3 times the hp and that take 3 times the damage don't count.... and if ur talking about relic.... all relics are insane damage wise can very comparable. And Finally with a brd some wars can get up to 1200+ base attack no matter how much gear u try to get the most u guys will ever get is maybe 700.... Y cause we have berserk and warcry.... <|Please Check It|> so.... either sub war and loose DOT from Supponi and dual wield... but either way u can't out parse us even with ur low *** delay daggers doing like 10-20 damage per dagger... even with Tripple attack u can't come close to if I double attack with 1 axe.... Hell u ever seen a war with Juggy/Riddill.... o.O omfgwtfthisdiscusionisdoneftw. next thing u guys gonna do is actually be insane enough to compare u damage with Monk.... /sigh




Please shut the **** up, you suck. You phail at life go outside and slit your wrists now. I can't beleive any of you. Fighting over which is better and what not.. I just noticed it too it's not the thfs here whom probablt have war to 75 also. it's mostly you wars, before you say **** about a job stfu. I have two friends on bahamut whom have war and thf to 75 and both of them can outparse wars out as thf (ie thf is thier main). One of them has full homama nad most of the good dam gear mentioned here. Please you beating a dead horse here, stuff that is already mentioned in the thf forums over every internet site and what not. WTF?

this is only a game get a grip and happy new year.
chill...
# Dec 20 2006 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
Reading xugal's post, I've come to the astonashing (sarcasm) conclusion that his ego is bigger than his damage points. I don't care how many axes he adds. It doesn't matter how much damage so and so did or what not. Warriors have their own style of battle, and thieves have their own. Leave it at that. As many of the warriors have pointed out, we Thieves are "pullers" and "hate managers" and that warriors are "bounce tanks" and "hard-hitters," and so they have pointed out the main downfall of this whole pointless arguement. OUR STYLES ARE DIFFERENT. -.- And last but not least, any player's quality should not be judged by how hard he hits, his hp, his mp, his gear, strengths, or weaknesses. A player, no matter what job, should be judged on his competency, knowledge, and abiltity to perform his or her job to the best of their abilities. Besides it's just a game.

Hate me now that I've made this comment?
Send me a /tell in game.
Sounsyy from Fenrir Server.
chill...
# Jan 15 2007 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
Very true, and the fact is, Thf have better acc... much better, and with the addition of... some merit, the one that gives atk/acc bonus when behind an enemy, it helps alot. In my opinion there roughly the same. War hit harder, Thf hit more often.
chill...
# Mar 04 2007 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Another point to bring up is that parsers dont show the measured damage a good THF looses by leaving early (slightly before the mob is dead) to pull the next target.
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/sigh wars and thief... stop comparing
# Nov 29 2006 at 1:14 AM Rating: Default
I don't know what crack some of these thfs be smoking but my war even as a lolwar does like 75-100 per axe on VT mobs. With all the **** we get for double attack comparatively thfs get almost nothing save for homan and a weak *** tripple dagger and maybe mercurial for like 3-6 damage a hit on IT mobs lol. along with berserk and our ability to wear DD gear thfs can't even imagine that give us insane attack
Hell my base with attack food and berserk is like 650 attack. We get +4 more haste
with top armor Unicorn feet +1 more than Homan Haidates +2 and lolBlitz ring if we want.... or str base is higher than urs. we get like a 30 percent tp return on Rampage.... we have a higher str base.... like +4 more than end game thfs......so tp wise we can do just as much as you rampage on a top notch war with merits does like 1500-1800 damage on VT mob w/o warriors charge. We are geared to for that.... its our purpose.... yours is spike damage and hate management... and all that bullcrap about u getting 3k damage on Shark bite... well sorry to say those Undead with 3 times the hp and that take 3 times the damage don't count.... and if ur talking about relic.... all relics are insane damage wise can very comparable. And Finally with a brd some wars can get up to 1200+ base attack no matter how much gear u try to get the most u guys will ever get is maybe 700.... Y cause we have berserk and warcry.... <|Please Check It|> so.... either sub war and loose DOT from Supponi and dual wield... but either way u can't out parse us even with ur low *** delay daggers doing like 10-20 damage per dagger... even with Tripple attack u can't come close to if I double attack with 1 axe.... Hell u ever seen a war with Juggy/Riddill.... o.O omfgwtfthisdiscusionisdoneftw. next thing u guys gonna do is actually be insane enough to compare u damage with Monk.... /sigh
/sigh wars and thief... stop comparing
# Dec 30 2006 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Joy/Ridill wars.. you noobs are just ******** over your alliance with that crap.. "0mfg uber 1337 [email protected]!" Crap damage per swing and your giving the mobs you hit TP out the ***.

3k I possible my friend, Ive seen thfs sata of me (drg) for 3k damage. They had decked out equipment. 3k hp is roughly what most VT mobs have at 75, even more.
/sigh wars and thief... stop comparing
# Nov 30 2006 at 2:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Curious what axes you are using to get 30% tp return on Rampage...As 68 War I get back 16% regular 17% on single hand double proc and 18% on both hands double...Not sure where I lost the other 12%...for a minute I meant to make a serious response to this...then suddenly I realized: It's a troll...1 post gave it away. Gah slow today.
/sigh wars and thief... stop comparing
# Jan 16 2007 at 1:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Meh, he's not taking normal swings into account. As 75 war I often notice I have 30% tp after rampage, but a quick look at the log shows two normal swings that took place during or right after rampage which, because of rampage, weren't shown in the animations. I even have one merit into Savagery and I still have yet to see this tp bonus with warcry on, and so I still only get 16-18 with rampage. Maybe if I wanted to bother getting a parser I'd see but again, meh.
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/sigh wars and thief... stop comparing
# Jan 24 2007 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
I'm a War myself love the hell out of the job, anyway cant compare jobs the way u guys do cause there different anyway, bout Savagery i maxed this out thinking i could ws then with the normal 17 i get back will have the added Savagery on top giveing me almost another rampage withen few hits but it doesnt work that way it adds on top of TP u already have it doesnt give tp after u use it, it adds to tp your useing hope that helps alittle.

Edited, Jan 24th 2007 11:21am by Bloodlines
Earrings, Earrings and Earthings...
# Oct 15 2006 at 3:09 AM Rating: Good
Please click to see my thread. Trying to compare this to other earrings in a Jin WS set up.

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worth it?
# Aug 16 2006 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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golowah wrote:
For anyone thats not a War or /War, a 5% DA (1 extra hit in every 20) is it worth over other +att, ot +str alternate?

It depends. Can you think of any other earring that will boost your raw damage over time by 5%? Suppanomimi will do ~this if you're /NIN. Personally though, I can't think of any DD job that wouldn't want one of these for at least one of their earrings.
worth it?
# Aug 04 2006 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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For anyone thats not a War or /War, a 5% DA (1 extra hit in every 20) is it worth over other +att, ot +str alternate?

Just want to know what other thinks.
Dumb ?? time
# Jul 12 2006 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I've heard items such as these will give you the enhanced trait even if its not native to your job or even if your not /WAR is this true or is what I heard totally bogus??
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# Jul 12 2006 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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It's true; Most items like this will give you the initial trait, or the enhanced version. The wording is important on them, though. The Supponomimi, for example, does not grant Dual Wield, only enhances it, though this earring does grant the effect.

Parses have shown this earring to be 5% DA rate, whether you have it or not. Extremely awesome.
Attaining the Earing
# Jul 11 2006 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
So what Steps would i have to take to attain this Earing?
purepwnage
# Jun 08 2006 at 11:20 PM Rating: Good
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I just got mine last night for my bst/nin and I've got to say: This is the coolest piece of absolute pwnage gear that I own. The double attack kicks in about 8% or so I'd say. I spend 2 hours skilling up dagger for the hell of it (took it from 194-206 in 2 hours) and 8% seems about the right figure.

I've got a feeling this earring is going to get my bst killed many many times lol. It's so addicting.
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# Apr 16 2006 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
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i've heard 5% and 10% double attack increase.

Assuming lowest case of 5%, this earring is really amazing! When I get sea access, this will be my number one priority to obtain. This compliments jobs like MNK, WAR, and NIN very nicely, but hell, this is godly for any DD!

Questions though on sea. When I have sea access, do I have readily available access to the mobs which drop ancient beastcoins at any time? Can I just decide to go farm coins for an hour or two whenever I want or is there any restrictions to having the ability to farm the mobs for coins?

And what kind of level would we be dealing with on the mobs, as well as how is their droprate for the coins? Thanks, as you can tell I have no experience with sea yet, as i'm really just getting started on CoP missions.
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# Mar 07 2006 at 3:09 PM Rating: Good
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I love this earring. I was really impressed with what a difference it made on my nin/war
can't wait
# Mar 07 2006 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
I just got Sea access and my Soboro Sukehiro(2-3 hit GKT, for you non sam's going /huh?). Man i can already solo light SC's wit this gkt and using meditate, so this will only increase my chances at hitting even more ^^ can't wait to get the coins.
soon
# Jan 06 2006 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
Now that I have Sea Access this will be my first priority to get 75 Ancient Beastcoins and get this thing. Warrior AF+1, except for the Gloves, is pretty much useless. I kinda want some Blackmage AF+1 as well but Warrior will always be considered as my main job and I wanna deck that job out as much as possible before anything else.
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# Oct 04 2006 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
Bizznatch wrote:
Warrior AF+1, except for the Gloves, is pretty much useless.


What about WAR AF+1 boots? they enhance DA also. So they arent useless
Sam/War
# Dec 12 2005 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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When I saw this, it made me brainstorm a little. For us Sam/War, another boost to faster TP is always nice. A great D.A. set-up, IMO, would be Hachiman Jinpachi, AF+1 Kote, Eat Shogun Riceball, Brutal Earring, and for the pureist, Sukesada. Wouldn't be to bad. It's just a brainstorm. Will it work well? I don't know. Will I try for it? Probably.
Sam/War
# Mar 04 2007 at 11:26 PM Rating: Decent
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You'd do better with Walara Turban for the 5% Haste than 2-3%DA from jinpachi(+1)
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