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Start Area: Selbina
Start NPC:Isacio
Type:Job Related
Related Areas:Valkurm Dunes
Min Level:18
Max Level:75
Reward:Ability to Add a Support Job
(Average from 44 ratings)
Items Required:Crab Apron
Damselfly Worm
Magicked Skull
Last Updated: Tue Aug 10 01:45:17 2010

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You must prove yourself worthy before you can learn Isacio's fighting techniques.


Isacio, at G-10, asks you to prove yourself and learn some survival skills. To do so, you need to bring him three items:

1. Magicked Skull - Dropped by Ghouls, which spawn in Valkurm Dunes at night. Ghouls can also be found in Gusgen Mines, Jugner Forest, Buburimu Peninsula and many other places.

2. Damselfly Worm - Dropped by Damselflies in Valkurm Dunes.

3. Crab Apron - Dropped by Snippers in Valkurm Dunes.

Completing this allows you to use a support job.

This page last modified 2010-01-16 19:19:58.
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both sub quests?
# May 20 2005 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
i wonder if you did both subjob quests what would happen? like if you might get some sorta boosts or something
# Feb 21 2005 at 3:36 AM Rating: Excellent
73 posts
I just got the Magicked Skull.
I'm a RDM lvl 19, was playing SOLO today, with a little strategy and some luck, I got it. In a very short time!!!

Before I got the skull, I have stayed in Dunes for several days and lvl up from 13-19 with different parties. Most time we staied around the coast killing flies, pugs and crabs but never seen a Ghoul.

On Sunday evening(earth time), I was already lvl 19 and want the Skull very much, but there were only few people at close lvl. After an hour waiting to be invited, I decide to form a party. But before forming a team, I wanted to know which part of Dunes has better chance to get a Ghoul, so I walked sololy into the area. Within 2 mins, I spotted a Ghoul west to the Out Post (0:40 Vana'Diel's time). It was checked as "Decent Challenge"and I decided to give a try.

I cast Enthunder, Protect and Aquaveil on myself, Slow and Dia on Ghoul, and I started running back to the gate of Selbina where some people usually gather around. (I can also run into Selbina if it goes bad). I fight Ghoul there. When my hp went low, someone cured me, so I just keep attacked the Ghoul and defeted it.
This is the only Ghoul I have killed, and I got the Skull.(thanks to the one that heal me)


Edited, Mon Feb 21 04:06:55 2005
Ra / EX
# Jan 20 2005 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
What i had noticed is when gettin gany of the items if you ask a high level to help you out you will get the item a lot quicker. I don't exactly know the reason for this but i was hunting Gusgen MInes for 3.5 hours with my friend and we saw a lv.68 mining there and asked him to join the party and help out. Literally 5 min later wI had the skull.
Ra / EX
# Jan 20 2005 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
What i had noticed is when gettin gany of the items if you ask a high level to help you out you will get the item a lot quicker. I don't exactly know the reason for this but i was hunting Gusgen MInes for 3.5 hours with my friend and we saw a lv.68 mining there and asked him to join the party and help out. Literally 5 min later wI had the skull.
Selling items
# Dec 09 2004 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
Some1 told me that you can trade the items needed for the sub jod mission is it true? as i know that you cant sell them

Edited, Thu Dec 9 16:19:57 2004
RE: Selling items
# Dec 14 2004 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
The items are Rare/Ex and can't be sold or traded. What sometimes happens is if players have full inventory or already have item in inventory, the item goes into their treasure pool, and they can invite other players to lot for it.
Extra Worm and Apron
# Oct 26 2004 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
I already have my subjob , but while leveling my Blm sub in the dunes , I obtained another apron and worm , can I sell them to an NPC merchant or should I just throw them away ?
# Oct 09 2004 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
107 posts
I got the apron and worm in a little less than an hour in a party in Valkurm. The rest either had subjobs or the items, so they let me lot for them. For the skull, I went to Gusgen in Konschtat, and had some level 70 guy kill a bunch of ghouls for me. I now have a subjob... Yay!
how I got the skull
# Aug 22 2004 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
94 posts
The Skull was the Last Item I got, and I was level 18 when I did get it. I just saw a ghoul, and I was not part of a Party and I checked it and it was an Even Match. I used a Mithkabob and took out my Flame Claymore and went to work. Just as I was about to die, a White mage used Cure III on me and I survived the battle. I got the skull from it.
stupid scull
# Aug 17 2004 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
97 posts
I got the crab apron and damselfly worm both today when I was lvl 17 in a pt. We were in the dunes for three hours fighting constantly. We had two people (myself included) who didn't have a sub so we both got the the worm and apron quickly. We saw one ghoul the whole time. It dropped the skull, but I had a crappy lot and didn't get it. Now lvl 18, I am really trying to find ghouls so I can get the skull. I'm Obbit, on the Ifrit server, so if you see me say hello!

Edited, Tue Aug 17 18:01:08 2004
got em
# Aug 05 2004 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
getting the apron was easy....

i didnt have problems with the worm or skull either. i was in a real good party and we fought a few ghouls, skull droped, everyone else had it so they let me lot it and grab it.

i got the skull before the worm. =p

then in the same party i get asked if i have the damsefly item and i say no. so we fight fles till it drops and tada! i got all three items!

i just made 18 today so its off to jeuno!
lvl 14?
# Aug 02 2004 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
I was told that you had to be 18 for a subjob. If this is the case, why do I keep reading that lvl 14'ers are doin it?

RE: lvl 14?
# Jun 06 2006 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
because they have a job of level 18 or higher, and they are leveling another job (prob the one the want as their main).
RE: lvl 14?
# Aug 03 2004 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
I got the items by accident at lvl 14 i decided to keep them wen i found out u needed for this quest i didnt collect them on purpose i was just killing things
# Jul 25 2004 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
I am so pissed i was hunting for ghouls for the skull (have other 2 items) and we been hunting for 10 hrs. and only 1 skull dropped and someone else took it (In a party) i started collecting at lvl 14 now im 18 and mad anyone who is free on july saturday 31 and help me find it ill pay u 500 gil or more limit 2,000 (depends on service and time to get it) MY name is Cribian on unicorn server
RE: Help
# Jul 28 2004 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
make sure you have a THF with you, that has treasure hunter, this helps A LOT
# Jul 22 2004 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
32 posts
hey...ive been trying since lvl 14... only have the apron..i got it on the first kill!!! im 16...NOONE seems to want to hunt damselflys and its really making me mad...soundwave send me a tell and id be happy to pt with you and try to get the items...im also in diabolos..i havent met a high lvl to help me yet...any advice on what i should do would be greatly appreciated!
b4 u get it
# Jul 22 2004 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
make sure u clear out ur inventory COMPLETELY of useless junk. my party got the skull, every1 passed it, i lot for it, I had 29/30 inventory, right when i was bout to get it, i obtained a stupid pugil scale instead :( and it was lost :'(. so now i got it again made room in my inventory 27/30 space. but once again crystals fly into my inventory, and the stupid skull was lost again. As if there was a stupid barriar that prevents me from getting a sub, I was so MAD and ANGRY that day, then when matters got worse, I DIED. that made me so angry cuz i had TWO chances at getting a skull and they were lost :( never played that much since that day ...

Edited, Thu Jul 22 17:08:07 2004
Agree with others
# Jul 21 2004 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
532 posts
Having a higher level member of your LS help you is HUGE for this quest. A lvl 40 MNK/20 WAR who helped me get 'em, and we managed to grab all three items within 1 Vana'diel day. In fact, we had mroe trouble getting the Apron than we did the skull.
# Jun 27 2004 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
This quest took me a while to complete solo. The worm and apron were quite easy, even as I started @ lvl 18. It was the skull that really drove me crazy--I leveled up to 20 in the dunes and still could not get get a skull drop. Finally out of frustration and desperation I ventured out and found Gusgen mines, and I managed to get the skull after killing 2 Ghouls.
# Jun 24 2004 at 9:00 PM Rating: Default
30 posts
I found this quest uber easy, i had all the items before i was eve lvl 18, parhaps i was just lucky
Quick fix
# Jun 22 2004 at 12:44 PM Rating: Default
3,564 posts
I got the apron in a Snipper hunting party then when I returned to Selbina the next day a high level Bard was kind enough to help me get the Skull and the Worm. Now all I need to do is seek a party in the dunes, level up, then just talk to Isacio.
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# May 27 2004 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
I Got The Skull a very Easy way...My friend is 40 war/20 nin, he and I went to The Maze Of Shakrimi, He got me the skull in under 5 min... The maze is in the north East corner of Tharongi Canyon..and if u don't have a high lvl friend...go anyways..always ppl there that will help. There is a High lvl quest there...so always high peeps there...
Do Snippers in other zones drop the apron?
# May 14 2004 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
189 posts
The subject says it all...I've noticed that there are snippers in Ordelle Caves; do these drop the apron, too?
min lvl
# Apr 19 2004 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
do you realy have to be lvl 18 or is that just the minimum segested lvl?
RE: min lvl
# Apr 20 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
504 posts
You need to be level 18 before you can get the quest. You can collect the items earlier, but the NPCs will not give you the quest until you are level 18.
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 13 2004 at 12:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Can't you just buy the **** in AH? :P
RE: Auction House
# Apr 17 2004 at 6:06 PM Rating: Good
31 posts
No it's Rare/Exclusive so can't be traded, bought or sold.
sub job
# Apr 12 2004 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent
If you start the one sub job quest can you not do the other?
RE: sub job
# May 14 2004 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
189 posts
From what I've read on these forums and over at IGN, you can have only one of the quests. Hope that info is correct.
I Got the Skull!!!
# Apr 01 2004 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
I had a friend help me with getting the skull since I had the other 2 items. He is like a bizzilion level DRK so I didn't have a problem with he and I being the only pcs in the party. We went to Gusgen Mines and I prepaired to spend about 2 hours killing stuff trying to get the skull drop. First room (1 min), skels dropped like flies. Second room (3 min), DRK pulls ghoul and brings it back to me and it doesn't drop. Second room (5 min), DRK pulls again and this time it dropped! NO kidding! I got the skull in less than 10 min.

As a side note, last night I partied in Valkrum for 3 hours real time which I think is 3 days in FF time. Anyway, we were killing everything but keeping an eye out for ghouls and we saw 0.

Soooo, I'm here to share the secret. Pair yourself with a very high pardner. You don't get any exp but you can pound through the baddies and will increase your chance of getting the skull in a quick amount of time. Then head to Gusgen and get pounding. If you don't know a very high pc, head to Gusgen anyway. There are several camped there that would be happy to help you out.

RE: I Got the Skull!!!
# Jun 05 2004 at 7:55 PM Rating: Default
I was with a 32 NIN that is on my LS, we just happend to be walking thru the dunes, he saw a ghoul, dropped skull. He saw a snipper, dropped apron, I had the worm from a previous party. All in all spent about 10 minutes on the whole quest.

Don't hate me.

drops for apron?
# Mar 30 2004 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
I've been hunting snippers with groups from mid-14 to mid-16 and haven't gotten one apron yet! i have the worm and thats it for now. is the crab apron a rare drop?
RE: drops for apron?
# May 04 2004 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
169 posts
It is all random whether the quest items will drop, I was camped on the snippers last night and within maybe 10 minutes 3 aprons dropped, then when we started to kill damselflies we must have killed 25 or 30 and not a single quest item :( So just stay patient and you'll get your item.
RE: drops for apron?
# Mar 30 2004 at 8:07 PM Rating: Excellent
1,453 posts
It's considered a fairly rare drop. However, it's completely random whether or not it drops. You're just getting unlucky. You can go stretches without seeing a single apron drop, and then turn around and have two drop in a row.

In my experience, getting the skull from valkrum is a considerably rarer event, since ghouls spawn only at night and rarely drop the magicked skull, whereas there are tons of snippers all over valkrum all day long.
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