Borghertz's Warring Hands  

Start Area: Upper Jeuno
Start NPC:Guslam (H - 8)
Prerequisites:The Doorman - WAR AF1
Related Areas:Castle Zvahl Baileys
Port Jeuno
The Eldieme Necropolis
Upper Jeuno
Related Mobs:Dark Spark
Yin Pocanakhu
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
(From 1 rating)
Items Required:Eldieme Coffer Key
Old Gauntlets
Shadow Flames
Items Granted:Fighter's Mufflers
This Quest is Repeatable
This Quest requires Zilart
Last Updated: Tue Feb 15 23:01:21 2005

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Gauntlets wrought by Borghertz, the legendary craftsman, lie hidden somewhere in Vana'diel.


NOTE: You must have completed The Doorman - WAR AF1 and activated The Talekeeper's Truth - WAR AF2 before you can start this quest.

To start this quest, head to the armor shop in Upper Jeuno and speak with Guslam the galka. He tells you about a pair of old gauntlets, crafted by the legendary Borghertz, that might have been seen in the Eldieme Necropolis.

Head to Eldieme Necropolis and get an Eldieme Coffer Key. The keys are dropped by Haunts, |Spriggans, Tomb Mages and Tomb Warriors.

Next, find a treasure coffer. Coffers spawn in the main, ground-floor chambers at G-6, G-7, F-8 and E-8. If you drop down from the main ground floor at G-8, you can access coffer spawn points at M-11 and M-10. On that same map, coffers also spawn at L-12 and L-9. A coffer can also appear on that map at E-6, which is accessible from a part of Batallia Downs only reachable through Beaucedine Glacier.

Trade your key to the coffer to receive the key item Some Old Gauntlets. You do not need to be a warrior when you open this coffer.

Go back to talk to Guslam. He will say the gauntlets are work of Borghertz, but he cannot repair them.

You then have to go speak to Yin Pocanakhu in the Tenshodo shop in Lower Jeuno. She talks about a toolbox that won't open. Pay her 1000 gil, and she tells you the toolbox is on a crate outside of the Duty-Free shop in Port Jeuno. Find the toolbox and examine the ??? for a cutscene, in which the spirit of Borghertz appears and asks for Shadow Flames from Castle Zvahl Baileys.

Go to Castle Zvahl Baileys and examine the torch at (F-8). A notorious monster bomb by name of Dark Spark will appear. Kill Dark Spark and examine the torch a second time to get the Shadow Flames.

Return to Port Jeuno and re-examine the ??? at the toolbox for a cutscene and your Fighter's Mufflers.

Quest Series

This quest is part of the artifact gear quest series for Warrior. The quest series includes:

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Easy, Easy, Easy
# Jun 03 2007 at 5:07 AM Rating: Decent
Well these AF quests some parts are a joke once u have a job at 75. I soloed the axe for this and the leg armour if i remember rightly (a while back now) and this is as my PLD. Fair enough PLD are reasonable at soloing but are certainly not the best. But anyway about this hand armor, for one its not very good the 3 enmity may not seem like much but leveling my war now and having lvled PLD its a pain for a PLD to keep hate against a reasonable WAR let alone with enmity up... God forbid if u have a nin tanking, just dont get me started. Out of the mobs that drop the key go for the tomb mages/warriors they are right near the hume bones all down one walkway and further down are the ghosts and spriggans. ATM im still in the eldieme necropolis fighting dark stalkers to help my bro whose a whm trying to get his AF (body - Tavnazia bell) but as we were killing things for him i remembered that the mobs werent far away so as we were waiting for re pops i went and had a few fights i kept this up and finally the key dropped must have been 10 fights or so i wasnt counting, and lucky for me the chest was in one of the two points underneath :P so i got the old gauntlets... the NM is a joke i believe that i could solo it after helping somebody do it a little while ago, so one piece of advice if u have a lvl 75 thats reasonable at soloing try alone and with the NM dont be afraid to go it alone the most ur gonna lose is 1k exp maybe a bit more... well good luck all that are attempting this and realize that its not as difficult as u may first imagine ^.^
coffer chest locations
# Apr 27 2006 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
Ok just helped a LS member get this and here are the locations of spawn points of coffers 4 on main floor G-6, G-7, e-8, f-8 on second floor there are 5 more and to get to them u have to drop through various hole or tele to vazhl here they are (1)drop through hole at G-8 and they located at M-10, M-11.(2)Drop down hole in area g-9 this drops you into area L-12 wheere the coffer should be very close in that area. (3) to get this one drop through hole in area G-6 wich puts you right in reaching distance of coffer at area L-9. final coffer is located at upper Necropolis through the Glacier and it is in area E-6 (watch out for Nm spawn here) this run takes patience and at least one other person to open doors for you, also make sure you sneak your self and buddy and have invisible for being around the bombs by the door levers. this was a very frustrating thing to find and took like 4-6 hours to actually get completed after this is all done you are ready to go kill Dark Spark for flame it is a lvl 55-55 NM and you should bring help to kill it at least one other person if you are lvl 55 more people if lower id suggest. hope this helps alil cause trust me i know how frustrating this can be also this is a great site for chest and coffer locations for future refemce http://www.speakeasy.org/~sticks/ffxi/treasure/title.html

id="fs8">Edited, Thu Apr 27 08:15:27 2006

Af help neded on Cait Sith
# Dec 22 2005 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
I am a 52war/nin almost 53 on cait sith. I have been having real trouble getting this coffer key. If someone on cait sith is willing to help me /tell Valimor i am frequently on. Thanks :D
Dark Spark
# Nov 29 2005 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
600 posts
I did this with me as 65RDM/32Blm and my friend (who at the time needed his Ranger AF gloves)who
was a lvl 70Rng/35Nin... This was pretty simple the only thing is to make sure to keep Rng healed. Just be Careful of Berserk,whereas the Ranger's health got to the red.. but of course i didnt let him Die. Mob even did Self Destruct but we had him worn down so that it didnt do much damage.

Please Help
# Nov 06 2005 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
EDIT: Too weak

Edited, Wed Apr 19 15:33:25 2006
On the 10k bit
# Oct 29 2005 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
61 posts
Yea, just a casual note that no one has seemed to post here. If this is your second AF-Hands quest, you don't need to pay the npc an additional 10k to find the box.

Yea, it sounds stupid and all, but it wasnt posted anywhere. Plus, it made my day (woo).
# Aug 27 2005 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
370 posts
I just did this at 50 so the guide is correct in that regard. People who have trouble getting this quest might have it activiated on another job and not completed yet. I know I had this problem back in the day when I was trying 2 do it for my sam but it was still activated on rdm so I had 2 complete that one first.

I got lucky 2 night and got the coffer spawn at the west end of the first map that does not require help opening doors. There are 4 coffer spawns that can be access by your self without help.

On the west side where the 2 spawn you can also fall down the middle part (white and black stuff in a square in the middle of the room) to get 2 a 3 spawn.

4th spawn that is soloable is the one though the glacier entrance.

Good luck
question about NM in castle
# Jul 27 2005 at 6:01 AM Rating: Default
how many LVL 75s can defeat the NM in the Castle?
RE: question about NM in castle
# Oct 19 2005 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
190 posts
One, at least for most jobs, I assume. I can and have solo'd it as 70rdm/nin, though admittedly rdm/nin is a strong solo'er.
Garuda Server;
Mithra; 75war,thf,bst,rdm(retired), 70drg, 66rng,nin, 62mnk, 51pld, 42drk, 40cor, 37smn,sam,blm,whm,dnc,brd,sch,blu,pup
Taru; 32dnc, 30war, 26nin, 19mnk, 16thf, 16drk, 10whm, 10rng, 8bst, 8blm

If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
question on castle NM
# Jul 26 2005 at 8:36 AM Rating: Default
god i hate this lag

Edited, Fri Aug 12 09:03:48 2005
question on castle NM
# Jul 26 2005 at 8:36 AM Rating: Default
damn lag ~_~

Edited, Fri Aug 12 09:04:17 2005
who did u go with to the castle
# Jul 26 2005 at 8:34 AM Rating: Default
damn lag ~_~

Edited, Fri Aug 12 09:03:29 2005
who did u go with to the castle
# Jul 26 2005 at 8:34 AM Rating: Default
damn lag ~_~

Edited, Fri Aug 12 09:03:19 2005
Good Coffer spot
# May 08 2005 at 7:42 AM Rating: Default
Umm yeah. anyone know a good camping spot for the coffer in Eld. Necropolis. Because lets just say my PT got badly pwnd doing this for my WAR. I had a 71MNK 71BLM 65DRK 53PLD 53WAR 53DRK 52WHM. We all went in threw the Batilla Down entrance and went to this tunnel. While in this tunnel we fought Tomb Warriors, Tomb Mages, Spriggan, and Haunts(for no reason). While there I was getting about 9exp per fight. and I got a total of like 700exp. so yeah long time. anyways. Things popped on us and we all died! So if anyone can tell me a good place to cmap for keys I'd love to know.
AF Gloves ?
# Apr 01 2005 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
I have done this quest for my RDM but now i want to do this for WAR, which is 53 now but Guslam wont give me the quest, he just tells me "so these are the work of bogehrtz" How doe i reset or get the quest from him now??
do u have to pay her?
# Mar 30 2005 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
My question is can u not pay her and go find the toolbox yourself? [Gold][/Gold]

Edited, Wed Mar 30 16:39:08 2005
Conditions to trigger?
# Nov 22 2004 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
I've completed AF1 and AF2 (axe and boots), and have triggered AF3 (body), but Guslam won't give me this quest. What are the required conditions, including the "order" of operations, to trigger this? Right now I'm a 52 WAR/THF. Will I have to complete AF3 to trigger this, or, do I just go to Eldheime and get the coffer part done before Guslam will give it to me? Thanks in advance, the quest description is vague. ><
RE: Conditions to trigger?
# Jun 30 2005 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
AF3 is this the Boddy is the last AF... u probbly have the quest but just dont know it lol
Minimum lvl
# Nov 15 2004 at 7:32 AM Rating: Default
26 posts
I started the quest tonight at lvl 52 so the minimum lvl that is posted is off a couple of levels

Edited, Mon Nov 15 07:33:50 2004
Title Correction
# May 05 2004 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
17 posts
The Title for WAR AF4 is "Borghertz's Warring Hands". ^_^

Got my Eldieme Coffer Key last night and coffer this morning... I tried helping my LS camp the Garlaige Coffers, and all I can say is thank gods the Eldieme Coffer (at least the spot I was camping) is not camped by HL JP like Garlaige is... ^_^

Keria ~ Fenrir ~ 55WAR/32SAM/29MNK/5THF

# Apr 21 2004 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
I'll be online around 7pm tonight 04/21/04...can anyone help me with my AF4 Warrior (^_^)
Keys, Coffers
# Apr 12 2004 at 2:55 PM Rating: Excellent
322 posts
This was somewhat frustrating to complete. As for the coffer key, you'll find it a lot easier to keep a group together for this is you can find PLD or DRK who will also need this key. As is stated in another post, Tomb Wolves and Utukku drop chest keys, not coffer keys.

Some tips on keys:
1) Have a map! Eldieme can be confusing even for very experienced players. The more people with maps, the better.
2) Enter via the I-10 entrance of Batillia, and drop below via the East Plate (many players do the same for the lvl50 cap quest).
3) 'Hume Bones' is a fairly safe camp spot to pull Tomb Warriors and Mages, but there are only 3 spawns of those down the eastern tunnel, and by the time you kill them you'll likely have respawns on the liches and fallens in your way. From the 2 days I spent down there, the liches/fallens are on a 10min timer, and the tomb warriors/mages a 15min (roughly).
4) If you've got a lot of higher-lvl help, the Haunt and Spriggans also drop keys. The Spriggans especially are *really* nasty targets, and will aggro a lvl75, however.
5) As opposed to camping 'Hume Bones', you may want to move down the tunnel to the east, then turn north. There's a long segment of tunnel just before the drop-off back to the entrance that's fairly empty, and has 4 spawns of tomb warriors/mages. My group found this a lot faster than the 3 spawns + liches/fallens at Hume Bones. It's also actually possible to zone from here.

Tips for Coffers:
1) There are 2 coffer spawns in the same area as Hume Bones. If you're down there for multiple keys/coffers, always check the tunnels to the north and south of hume bones for coffer spawns.
2) 4 of the 9 coffer spawns (source-various chest maps) are on the upper level of the I-10 entrance, so focusing your efforts there is probably most efficient.
3) On that level, the coffer spawns are in the west-most room and plate area, and north (2 each). There are Dark Stalkers in these areas, which might suggest that these drop keys as well (untested).
4) What my group ended up doing was planting 1 player at West and North plates and had coffer hunters running around the west and north branches of the upper floor, calling out for plate changes as needed.
5) The coffer hunters will either need to sub whm for sneak, have a caster follow them around, or carry a whole lot of sneak oils.
6) If you get aggro from anything Even or harder, Warp/Instant Warp/Teleport out immediately. Past the fact that your exit to zone is very long, other players in the area really aren't going to be pleased with any trains you start.
Eldime coffer
# Apr 03 2004 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
where does the eldime coffer spawn? and how long does it take to pop

Edited, Sat Apr 3 11:15:24 2004
Other AF gloves
# Feb 23 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Default
This is the same quest for all AF gloves, but the coffer location may vary. I know PLD and DRK are also in the Eldieme Necropolis, I think WHM and BLM are in Garlaige Citadel.
# Feb 05 2004 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
Tomb Wolves and Utukku do NOT drop the Coffer key, they drop the chest key. The coffer key is dropped by Tomb Mages, Tomb Warriors, Haunts and Spriggans. Spriggans have the best drop rate, but are vicious battles. Best bet is the Hume Bones camp and pull the 4 Tomb Mages/Warriors to camp and kill them. A team of 55+'s can defeat them. (Watch out for the occasionally Earth Elemental spawn)

Also, you only need AF1 WAR completed to start this, and Yin does not start the cutscene you need, just sells you the box in Port Jeuno. You must check it and speak with Borghertz first.

Edited, Thu Feb 5 10:10:05 2004
# Jul 27 2005 at 6:02 AM Rating: Default
question, how many NM does it take to defeat the NM in the castle?
NM in castle
# Jul 27 2005 at 6:02 AM Rating: Default
question, how many NM does it take to defeat the NM in the castle?
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