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Treasure and Tribulations  

Realm:Jeuno
Start Area: Balga's Dais
Start NPC:Shami (H - 8)
Type:BCNM
Max Party:3
Related Mobs:Mimic
Max Level:50
Rating
*****
(Average from 15 ratings)
Items Required:Comet Orb
Items Granted:Astral Ring
Conjurer's Ring
Darksteel Ore
Drake Ring
Fencer's Ring
Gold Ingot
Gold Ore
Guardian's Ring
Kampfer Ring
Light Spirit Pact
Mahogany Log
Medicine Ring
Minstrel's Ring
Petrified Log
Platinum Ore
Rogue's Ring
Ronin Ring
Scroll of Freeze
Scroll of Quake
Scroll of Raise II
Scroll of Regen III
Shinobi Ring
Slayer's Ring
Soldier's Ring
Sorcerer's Ring
Tamer's Ring
Tracker's Ring
Wyvern Scales
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Sun Mar 20 15:30:06 2011

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Battle Notes

To begin, trade 50 Beastmen Seals to Shami at (H-8) in Port Jeuno in order to obtain the Rare/Ex item Comet Orb. Upon receiving the orb, make your way to the Balga's Dais zone located in the Giddeus dungeon.

Be advised that only three players can enter the battlefield, that their levels will be capped at level 50, and that there is a 30 minute time limit that starts the moment the orb trader enters the battlefield.

Upon entering the battlefield, you will find three treasure chests (Large Box, Medium Box, and Small Box) in the center of the room. When one chest is opened, the other two will disappear.

  • There is a 33% chance that you will choose a chest that, when opened, will result in completing the bcnm, and your party will receive the treasure pool from the chest.

  • There is a 66% chance that the chest you open will transform into a Mimic, and in order to complete the bcnm, the mimic will have to be defeated.

Strategies

The most common strategy in doing this BCNM is to utilize the roulette method, which is basically just to choose one chest and hope that luck is on your side, since popping the right chest will result in an instant win. If a mimic is spawned, the player will either try escaping using a Warp Cudgel, a Scroll: Instant Warp, or the Warp I spell, or, if using the method of going in on a level one job, just dying.

However, it is possible to beat the BCNM with a small group via killing the mimic spawned if the "lucky" chest isn't opened. However, this often requires planning and preparation ahead of time to win, as the group must go in with every intention of defeating a mimic should they fail to open the "lucky" chest.

Red Mage and Ninja method

A simple, straightforward method, though easily the longest one used, the Ninja will fight the mimic while the Red Mage cures and buffs the Ninja, while helping to enfeeble the mimic. The mimic's Death Trap ability as well as its Draw-in effect will often result in the Red Mage being hit a few times, so it is advised to keep Stoneskin, Blink, and Phalanx up as much as possible to survive.

Black Mage method

This method basically culminates a full contingent of Black Mages casting the Freeze Ancient Magic on the mimic soon after it spawns.

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hmmm
# Jul 30 2007 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmmm, i attacked the Medium one and it changed to look like a mimic but i panicked seeing that and mijin gakured it straight away, just wondering could it of still changed into the treasure chest and have i just wasted the drops or does it change straight into the treasure chest when you attack it? Sadly i dont have enough seals to have a second attempt with previously doing alot of BCNM runs.
owned
# Jul 11 2007 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
0/3 on chest today, 150 seals gone, back to killing crabs in kuftal ; ; /wrists
BCNM 50
# Jul 10 2007 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
did this 3 times no astral or sorcerers rings but i got platinum ring freeze and raise II for about 60k all together but i did set seraph record for 47 sec.

Edited, Jul 10th 2007 12:35pm by touvan
Luck
# Jul 09 2007 at 6:54 AM Rating: Decent
did this a few times and heres what happened

1st time won astral ring and tammers ring
2nd time won astral ring and fencers ring
3rd time lost
4th time won minstrels ring and ram horn
5th time lost

picked middle chest each time
made about 1.6 million ^^
BCNM 50
# Jul 01 2007 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
i just tried this BCNM earlier today, went as blm29/14smn. the idea was to have titan attack chest and if it was mimic warp straight out. Fortunately i choose the right chest (middle chest). Unfortunately the drops were kinda crap : Tamer's ring (1k ~), regen 3 (1.5 ~) on asura sever and got 1.6k gil so out of my 50 beastmen seals i got a total of 4-5k :( very weak reward if u think about the drops that couldve droped but oh well.

Edited, Jul 1st 2007 7:39pm by kilez
>.>
# Jun 30 2007 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
Ya the guy below this post is, and this is a big IS!!, trying to spread false info. But not to fear I can and will spread the correct info for you.....because I wasted just as many seals on this as the person below says he has. >.>

Now he might be correct as to the day effecting the boxes that are mimics, but that only pertains to the first box of the day.

What I have experienced in this BCNM is this:

Whatever box is first non-mimic box will not be the next non-mimic box. Tested on several different occasions, and many, many deaths and successes. This has been tested with me and a friend going one after the other several times, and me by myself more times then I can count(which eventually lead to me hating the BCNM altogether).

Example: He would enter the BC, and choose the small box, I would then enter and choose the medium box, both with back-to-back successes. We did this 2 times in a row with good results, he got an Astral ring and then the Sorcerers Ring out of the 2 seperate drops from his successes. I got the Drake Ring and Soldiers Ring out of my 2 >.>(worth less then the Ore I got <.<). It's funny to note that these rings are worth only 1 gil when you try and sell them to a NPC, LMAO.

Example #2: After several successes, we decided to change it up. We went in after another person was doing the same BCNM, and we waited to see what that person chose, and she was kind enough to tell us, she chose the small box. He went in and chose the middle box, I then went in and chose the same. He got a drop, and I got smoked. We then tried it again directly after my failure, but due to my switching boxes on my attempt, the boxes switched the non-mimic spot and lead to both of us getting smoked on our next attempts.

Example #3 After many many hours of farming Beastman Seals, and me getting tired of waiting for my friend to due the same, I decided to go at it myself. Here's my miserable failures: I went in and started off choosing the small box(since this was how we started our attempts), result? failure. Came back, all the while doing searches on the area to see if anyone entered it or not while I was away, attempted to choose the box next size up, result? failure. >.> Had barely enough to do another, and did so. Came back and chose the small box again, result? another f***in failure(lemme tell you just how pissed I was after 3 failures in a row...I was 2 inches away from accidentally breaking my TV with my controller<good thing I can't aim that well when I'm mad>). I haven't done this BCNM in the past 3 months and have been tossing every single Beastman Seal I get, I have been that pissed off about it. >.>

So you can see a pattern to how the Mimics rotate when ppl enter after each other. They do rotate, and they don't stay the same throughout the day, regardless of what the poster below has stated. Now, they might reset after each game day, but the mimics do and will rotate, regardless of what box is chosen(weither a success or a failure).

Now, the day of the week (IG), might have an effect as to what box is the first non-mimic of the day. But the next non-mimic box (and so on), is determined by what is chosen by each player that enters the BCNM, and will never remain the same. But then again maybe when me and my friend wasted 400 BS' in between the 2 of us, and got lucky?!. But you can't deny the coincidences(if so), when we attempted this BCNM together. And maybe it is random, as to which box is the next non-mimic box, idk. But I prefer to see it as fact.

The poster below didn't just get lucky, he most likely was entering after another player that was doing the same thing he was. And he was reaping the benefits(if he was successful), each and every time.

Also it should be noted that my friend chatted with the player that entered the BCNM before we started having failures, and she told him that she always chose the small box, and got the non-mimic box 9/10 times she did it. So, go figure on that, it might start off as the small box, every game week, idk.

I think that if these boxes do depend on the day, it might be possible to see what they are weak against to figure that out(if they are weak to any type of magic that is). Just have 3 Black Mages go in (one after the other)and 2 hour each version(small, medium, large) of the mimics to see what they are weak to, this might give an indication to what day they will start off in the non-mimic slot. But then again it might just prove fruitless, to try such an endevear.

But if anyone(besides the fruitcake below) has anything to add to this, go right ahead. These have been my experiences, and I'm about ready to try this BCNM again, as I really need gil badly and the Astral Ring and the Sorcerers Ring would be dream drops for me to get, since my friend got 1.2 mil gil out of those 2 drops, I have my fingers crossed.^^

Edited, Jun 30th 2007 9:56am by Nuhnisgodly
>.>
# Aug 30 2007 at 3:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I spent my whole 200 seals on this and found that Nuhnisgodly's post was very helpful. Someone went in before me and I didn't get to ask them which box they chose. After that I made sure to check the areas and found I got to go in 4 times without anyone else going in. These are my results including 2 previous runs.

1st run ever. Poped Small box -> Win.
Some small stuff I don't remember

2nd run. Poped Med box -> Loss.

Waited a long time.

3rd run.Iceday Poped Med box -> Loss.

4th run.Iceday Poped Med box -> Win.
Sorcerer's Ring, Mythril Ore, 1449 gil

5th run.Lightningday Poped Lrg box -> Win. Got Lucky
First person in for the day. Slayer's Ring, Raise II, 1320 gil

6th run.Lightningday Poped Med box -> Loss.

Did this as 36Blm/12Smn with carby pop to try and warp out, but died twice anyway. Though I feel there is really something to this pop a mimic and then you can pop same chest for win thing. This puts me @ 3/6 which isn't bad since sorcerer's ring is going for about 1.4mil on Garuda. Also someone mentioned somewhere that the small box pop on your first run ever here is always a win, though that would conflict with the pop a mimic then pop a chest way. I have talked with a few people about this and they have all won on small box 1st run though, and we all know SE is funny about hidden influences. So maybe your first time in changes things. Will read more on this and maybe spend more seals after I try getting my pentitants rope, and will post results. Hope this was helpful.
>.>
# Dec 12 2007 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
First try ever, picked the small box. Won and got a Kampfer Ring and Gold Ore.
How to make this forum helpfull in how to choose the right
# Jun 18 2007 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
This forum is nice but it lacks in information how to choose the right chest!

How to do that?

First of all the Mimic does not pop random in every box!!!
Mimic pops are influenced by the game day, and u are now asking to yourselfs " how come?" or "wth is he talking about!",well after i put 500 bs and 3 hours of mass teleport back and forth to get to the bcnm area and warp zone and some drops from the real chest, I figured this:

#1 - mimics do not pop random in the same game day
(actually they keep in same place till game day changes)
#2 - they are influenced by game day where they are in the bcnm
(tested 10 times in a row)

And this how it works, now i ask to this forum readers and users to give some information detailed on game day and wich chest are real and wich ones are not.
A guide would be very helpfull ^^; (since im out of bs to do more testing grounds)
How to make this forum helpfull in how to choose the right
# Jun 25 2007 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
28 posts
Well - Tried this just now

1st try - Middle box = Mimic
2nd try - Left box = Mimic
3rd try - Right Box = Mimic

All done within the same day. Darksday.

So....I don't think your theory is correct. Perhaps you're just lucky.
Awesome
# May 25 2007 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
Did this BCNM today it was my first ever one saw it on the internet and thought yeah I could do that.

1/1 I got sorcerers ring and astral ring I was ecstatic choose the middle chest btw, so that means 2 million gil for me gonna get a Eurytos Bow as soon as they sell yipee!!
Fun gamble
# Apr 21 2007 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Did this 3 times last night.

Picked middle box all three times. 1/3 and ended up with a shinobi ring & mythril.

If you have a pet job have it attack the chest you want. If it is the right one go open it. If not let your pet keep fighting and use some form of warp. If you try to run it will draw you in so just stand still and hit warp.

Takes about 20 minutes a run solo.
death
# Apr 16 2007 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
I just tried this on my 70SMN. I'm going to bootcamp tomorrow so I wanted a but of chance.

Small box turned into a mimic and killed titan. I was just reaching the exit and he used DRAW IN and pulled me back every 3 seconds. I was trapped until I died....

If only I hadn't watched to see if titan can kill it, I'd have reached the exit in time.

small box = death for me.
Luck
# Apr 08 2007 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
28 posts
This is a little late but I'll still share it. So one day I was doing the usual manaburn on the puddings in Mount Zhayolm and on of the tarutaru was doing the 75% armor-HP convert and i relized he was doing it for the Sorcerer's Ring. SO that sparked my intrest so I went to the AH and found it. Next was I /shocked at the cost of this thing. So I'm sure you guessed where I went next. To the internet and look up the info on this thing and found out it was soloable in a way. So with the 200+ seals I figure wth its worth a shot. Then off to jueno and as alway at the time I was gonna do the the warp tarutaru in Al Zahbi he would be no where to be seen. hehe To shorten it up I get my orb and show up at the BC. I am a Med Elvaan and went as a BLM/RDM. I blink/SS up and run over to the chests. My first though was go small and walk away with something as I stand over it I second guess myself and walk over to the big and was thinking spend big win big so as I stand over the big chest I target it and I open up my spell list and ensure that I'm on warp hehe. Then I click the chest and /joy the Sorcerer's Ring and a Gold Ore drops. ^^

Just a little exp. with the ring it is nice but I dont think I would ever spend my hard earned gil on this the damage is only like 20-30 over my Snow ring. Although I'm not gonna sell it. But I'm sure when i can stack on a little more magic atk bouns it will proly make more diff.

But anyways good Luck to who tries. (^_^)
is it one chest?
# Apr 07 2007 at 10:46 AM Rating: Default
SO how does it work? Say I go in their with a group and I pick a chest and its a mimic, then if we kill the mimic do I then move onto the next chest and if its a mimic again I kill then open the last for the treasure?

Or do I pick 1, if its treasure great if its not im out the seals??
is it one chest?
# Apr 28 2007 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
You attack one. If it's the right chest, they all disappear and an crate appears to give you your fantastic winnings. If it's a mimic, more than likely, you'll want to break out of there, but if you can manage to kill it, you'll get a crate just like beating any other BC.

Just did it and got lucky. 1/1 so far.
is it one chest?
# Aug 06 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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if its a mimic, u either fail and run or fight it. If you defeat it, the Armory Crate appears, you open it, and see what u won.
All luck
# Mar 26 2007 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
Just did this today after my friend got lucky and got Astral and Sorcerers ring being 1/2. So i set aside 100seals and headed out there. I decided to go with the middle since most of the post ive read here were drops from middle. First pop, Mimic, second pop, Astral and Mistrals! Not as good as my friends but Im happy with it. Him and me both got our drops off our second pick. choose a box, if it doesn't drop, stick with it ^^
Method?
# Mar 01 2007 at 5:54 AM Rating: Good
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Has anyone tried the method for the Golden Salvage Assault? The one where you check from afar.
Method?
# Mar 01 2007 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Just tried this.
The golden salvage ones are npcs, these are actually monsters and you have to engage them to start the fight/get your chest.
lol
# Feb 22 2007 at 9:43 PM Rating: Decent
30 posts
40BLM/20NIN

Picked medium box.

Guessed correctly.

Popped the crate.

Mista receives...
1447 gil
ram horn

/disgusted
lol
# Mar 01 2007 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah you only get 1 drop for guessing correctly now after the patch.
Got a Medicine Ring and some gil myself >.<
lol
# Mar 16 2007 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
I just got a Fencers Ring AND an Ebony Log... from sleepga'ing the bunch. Thought I'd found a magic way to get the chest everytime, but second time it didn't work and I got to deathwarp home...

Interesting tho. Both times I went today, I sleepga'ed what wasn't (so far as I could tell) the correct chest. First time, they all resisted and the armoury crate appeared. Second time, the small chest stayed behind and killed me in 3 shots (wasn't even gonna bother trying to salvage my *** from that... lol, expected death - <found it!>)

Gonna go again and see if I can get lucky again. what the hell...
lol
# Mar 01 2007 at 6:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Hm... I guess it isn't a new thing then. I guess the odds of seeing a single drop is really rare.. first time in 11 trials did I get one.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2007 9:18am by Khakster

Edited, Apr 2nd 2007 9:21am by Khakster
1/2
# Feb 10 2007 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
45 posts
Went in as whm/blm, just got blink and SS up, checked middle crate first. Mimic. Second time around I tried the small crate and it dropped an Astral Ring and a Slayer's Ring. The Astral is going around 400k and the slayer is only about 1k on leviathan.
Theory
# Feb 08 2007 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
Ive had a idea i wanted to try for this BCNM, but i sadly lack the taru power to do it And it involves taking the mimics on, So i thought i will post it here and see if anyone else comes up trumps with it ^^

Party Setup: BLM X5, PLD

BLM all must be level 50, and have Freeze, Set all your macros. Choose the box before hand that your going to take baring in mind, the small one high evasion ... so go for medium one/ Large your choice.

3 Mages stand on the Black line as you enter and 2 Behind The Chests, At the far back Make sure your in range though to cast freeze.

All set your macros WITH Same timings: Id think this would be more useful in this setup

/ma "freeze" <t>
/p casting freeze on <size> chest <your name> 19 secs..
/wait 9
/p Paladin hit the chest

Pop your 2 hr before hand so Black magic is Not~! Interrupted (Gotta love blm 2hr) because he likes to suck people in that are far away. Wack ur macro all at same time, PLD should see call and if it is a Mimic then your all about 2/3 off the way through freeze, once you have casted it spam a Fire2, Since you have used ya 2hr your have Mp ^^ fire 2 because freeze makes its a little weaker to fire.

Hopefully PLD will have voke ready if you all time at same time and Hi pots and a drink for magic.

Dont forget to take food aswell.

I Hope that works for you ^^ at least your 33% chance off winning goes up ALOT more! and your 50 seals wont be so much at risk. Luck is only a coincidence, And i dont believe in coincidences.

EDIT: forgot to put server >.< On Remora send a /tell ill happily spank it!

Edited, Feb 8th 2007 10:07am by xanadalf
Question-
# Jan 05 2007 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone even try to fight this thing or does everyone just Chainspell/PD-Warp out?

I've been wondering if an RDM/NIN would stand a chance here. Sence I am not sure about it's combat capablities or is spell casting (if any). If it has an AoE spell or something along those lines, Utsusemi would be useless. Just wondering if anyone has some Combat data on this encounter that they would wish to share.
Question-
# Jan 06 2007 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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This is not possible to solo unless you pick the right box. The mimics are rather hard with a full party.
please respond
# Jan 02 2007 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
WHEN U PICK THE RIGHT TREASURE CHEST DO U HAVE TO BEAT IT OR U CAN WARP AND GET THE TREASURES. PLEASE RESPOND
Wootz
# Dec 28 2006 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
Im a small taru, my first try
- astral ring
- minstrels ring

picked the medium one! I went in as nin/war lvl 10 lol i would mijin gakure, well if mimic hit me for more i wouldnt care to lose exp either...

pwned
# Dec 20 2006 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
waste of seals !!! friend said he made large character thus for pick the large box so with the 65 seals i had i got comet orb for 50. Mind you first time i went before i chose the small box it killed me. So this being my second time i chose medium box b/c i made medium character well i got pwned. Friend chose large box 2 times got 2 astrals sorcerers ring and Minstrels ring made couple million, i on the other hand lost 100 seals and 3 k experience points. in the long run some have luck and others don't. But if you want my opinion pick the big box ><.
aoe spell
# Dec 19 2006 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
i tried this with 75rdm/37blm decided on one atttempt to use areoga i hit the medium larg and small in that order and the small one attacked me. So needless to say u need to physically attack it.
{luck} {do you need it?}
# Dec 06 2006 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
I did it three times last night: 3/3..!! First time: Slayer's ring, Astral ring. Second time: Shinobi ring, Mythril ore. Third time: Minstrel's ring, Gold ore. I'd go again if I had 5o more seals.
small box ftw
# Dec 03 2006 at 2:03 AM Rating: Decent
got drunk, did this bcnm, got sorc ring



Guinness ftw

Edited, Dec 3rd 2006 5:25am by jesuusssss
lost
# Nov 27 2006 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
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friend and i just tried it, i lost she won, got the nin ring, 40k ;_;

Edited, Nov 27th 2006 9:48pm by sirwang
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