Carapace Combatants  

Start Area: Horlais Peak
Start NPC:Shami (H - 8)
Max Party:3
Related Areas:Yughott Grotto
Related Mobs:Bisan
Min Level:30
Max Level:30
(Average from 3 ratings)
Items Required:Sky Orb
Items Granted:Ashigaru Earring
Beater's Earring
Beetle Jaw
Beetle Shell
Elm Log
Esquire's Earring
Genin Earring
Healer's Earring
Insect Wing
Katana Obi
Killer Earring
Magician's Earring
Mercenary's Earring
Mythril Ingot
Mythril Ore
Pilferer's Earring
Scroll of Absorb-INT
Scroll of Absorb-VIT
Scroll of Dispel
Scroll of Fire II
Scroll of Utsusemi: Ni
Scroll: Magic Finale
Silver Ore
Singer's Earring
Steel Ingot
Trimmer's Earring
Warlock's Earring
Wizard's Earring
Wrestler's Earring
Wyvern Earring
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Fri Apr 4 20:43:58 2008

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Battle Notes

In order to enter the battlefield you will need to bring a Sky Orb, which is obtained by trading 30 Beastmen's Seals to Shami at (H-8) in Port Jeuno. When you are ready, trade the Sky Orb to the Burning Circle inside Horlais Peak and choose to enter the battle Carapace Combatants.

Up to 3 people may enter and you will all receive a level 30 restriction. You have 15 minutes to win. You will fight two beetles: Bisan & Pilwiz. Pilwiz is a Black Mage beetle that likes to cast Stonega II. Bisan on the other hand is a fairly ordinary beetle.


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Carapace Combatants
# Dec 11 2008 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
So, whoever said these BCNM is easy. they are kidding. we went in with a War/Nin (me), a Galka War/Mnk, and a Taru Whm/Blm. we didnt get very far at all, do to the fact i think we screwed something up: the JOBS we took.

We did okay on the fighting and healing part. we got the Main Beetle down to almost 1/8 life left. the problem was: Stonega 2 sucks! he casted it every 6-8 second and we got slaughter. I went first and than the other war went next. we told our whm just to run out and save her exp.

I do believe the next time we try this. I think we are going with a Pld/war for the main tank; Blu/Nin, Rng/Nin, War/Nin, or one of the Mage classes; and a Rdm/Whm. Hopefully we can do alot better the 2nd time around.

But it really doesnt matter much, cause I got the "3 Rings of Death" on my 360 and it is on it's way back to Mircosoft for the second time this year. Maybe i should put it on my computer or PS@ again for back-up.

If Anyone has any suggestions for this BCNM. it would be cool for the help. cause 1 of these days when i get my 360 back. i would like to beat a bcnm!

Good Luck to all who try this BCNM. the only advise i can give is Hi-potions and ether for the mages.

Edited, Dec 11th 2008 2:33pm by FFXInut
A different method that works.
# Dec 22 2007 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
16 posts
I've noticed a lot of the methods suggested require the use of sleeping/kiting Bisan while one person tanks Pilwiz as the WHM/??? heals as needed. Well, I tried it with a setup of 30WAR/15MNK (me), 30WHM/15BLM, and 30BRD/15WHM. The Bard would sleep Bisan and then help with some limited DD on Pilwiz. This didn't work because I couldn't do enough damage with just a Neckchopper and a beetle +1 set wasn't enough to keep me protected. Barstonra also ran just as Pilwiz readied Stonega II which hit me for ~370 damage which was brought down to 0 after a melee hit by Pilwiz. Shortly after the BRD and WHM were taking dirt naps.

Stayed away from BCNMs for a while after that and while farming I got some help from a pair of level 75s after Panzer Percival (beetles just seemed to love killing me when I was in my early 30s) and ended up talking to one for a while. He clued me in to a strategy for this that is somewhat flawed but very effective. The setup is as followed:

2x WAR/MNK or WAR/NIN or a combination of the two.
1x WHM/SMN or WHM/BLM who brings a yag drink just in case things go bad and you need the extra MP.

Walk in and buff up with Protect, Shell, and Barstonra just outside the ring and wait for the WHM's MP to be back to full. Whoever put up the orb between the WARs takes the role as main tank on Pilwiz and the other WAR has double duty as DD on Pilwiz and keeping hate on Bisan via Provoke. The main tank uses Mighty Strikes right off the bat which on its own should take Pilwiz down to 50% without the use of a WS. Usually Bisan will go after the WHM once during Mighty Strikes so the DD WAR needs to be ready to switch over and do a quick Provoke. Pilwiz lasts maybe a minute and a half before falling dead in front of you. Take turns voking Bisan as needed and it shouldn't last too long after that.

So far the DD WAR has fallen twice due to no MP with a WHM/BLM Hume without yag drinks and me slightly under-equipped at the time in the way of armor. Just did it twice today with my LS mates with Full Moon 100% on Watersday.

Drops included for me were as follows:
1,000 g each
Beetle Shell
Elm Log
Axe Belt
Scroll of Magic Finale

Horrible drops on Seraph, the belt and scroll are 3-5k at best on the Jeuno Auction House.

The second run worked out so much better as far as drops go:

1,000 g each
Beetle Shell
Jug of Scarlet Sap
Genin's Earring
Warlock's Earring

Better drops on Seraph; 8-10k on the Sap, 10k on the Magician's Earring, and 120-130k on the Genin's Earring.

On my first successful run I've had this list of drops:

1,000 g each
Beetle Jaw
Jug of Scarlet Sap
Mace Belt
Wyvern Earring

Of the possible drops from this BCNM the wyvern earring is the second best on Seraph next to Utsusemi: Ni, 150-180k for the earring.

Though I've yet to lose the BCNM with this strategy, there is a limit placed on how many times you can do this unless there's someone that can do both duties as WHM and WAR. I've yet to attempt it without the use of Mighty Strikes and unless I can get my LS mates to lend me a hand in a likely wipe and waste of seals. If I do put together a test on a run without Mighty Strikes I'll make sure to update and let you know. Have fun and see you around Seraph.

Edit Note: Slight correction on the drops.

Edited, Dec 24th 2007 11:58am by VanlemofSeraph
Not hard, but do it right... >.>
# Apr 09 2007 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
Well, I did this last night. Here's the set up we used:

PLD/??? (anon)

BLM's orb went first. We went in and BLM used Protectra. We didn't have Barstonera when we attacked. We didn't use food in the beginning either.. In fact, I (RDM) was the only one who brought food. PLD voked Pilwiz and BLM and RDM stayed back while BLM elemental seal+sleep on Bisan. RDM and BLM nuked Pilwiz until Bisan woke up (which really didn't take long) and then RDM casted sleep on Bisan.. But it resisted. RDM started kiting Bisan and tried sleeping it over and over.. But it still resisted. RDM spammed cure III and kited until Pilwiz died and broght Bisan to PLD. PLD voked and then BLM and RDM rested and cured PLD because she was out of MP. Eventually PLD died so BLM tried sleeping it but it resisted so he started kiting Bisan and RDM chased after it to try to get hate off BLM. RDM bound the Bisan (BIND IS AWESOME ON THIS ONE. BIND STICKS REALLY WELL!!) After bind stuck, I started nuking with aero and water. Bind wore off and went after BLM. BLM died before I could bind it again. Bind came back so I bound it again. It was a 1/3 life when BLM died. Anyways. Bound again, but only had time to run out of range and cast water. Ran around, used yag drinks and Hi potions to stay alive. Then bound it again. RDM casts water, aero, water, then hi potion, run away, bind, then water and then finally aero. Bisan dies. Party celebrates with a yay! and tells RDM chest popped. Ran up to the chest and immediately was out of time. There was no time warning either.. So we got no treasure. Because it was late, we only did BLM orb.

Fight was hard, but only because RDM (me) soloed and kited (first time kiting anything..) >.> Not impossible with the set up. Just be smart, wear pants (BLM forgot to), bring food (Hi Potions and yag drinks... ALOT OF THEM) and don't forget bind... and you'll do ok.
cannot be charmed
# Mar 06 2007 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
219 posts
couldnt find a report of anyone trying to solo this as bst so i gave it a shot last night. went in and used gauge on both beetles and both said "cannot be charmed!". so there ya go.
Guarenteed Win
# Aug 22 2006 at 10:46 PM Rating: Decent
Hello, I have read some of these posts to setup a strategy to beat this BCNM. Most were very helpful and I have been successful in this. My win ratio so far is 8/9 (only because of a minor miscalculation) and we beat the record twice. This is what I did and what should guarentee a win everytime.

Party setup was PLD/WAR Hume(me), BLM/WHM Hume(wife), RDM/BLM Taru(friend). It is very important to have people you can count on in this battle. We had typical level 30 stuff for each job, not even anything that special. I ate tacos, BLM ate Apple Pie and RDM ate Rolanberry Pie. Everyone carried Yag drinks just in case.

Now for battle. As soon as you enter pop food. I shelled myself and BLM did Protectra. We rested to full and ran up. NOW VERY IMPORTANT!!! Right before we crossed onto the black part, BLM cast Barstonra. Do not do it any sooner, it must be right before you engage the enemy. The only time we lost was because of this reason. I run in and voke Pilwiz and begin my attack. Make sure everyone stays away from Pilwiz so only PLD gets hit with Stonega II. BLM Elemental Seal + Sleep on Bisan then nukes Pilwiz. RDM nukes Pilwiz and Elemental Seal + Sleeps Bisan when it wakes up. I (PLD) keep myself cured to keep hate and the others cure me if needed. Must make sure PLD stays above 400 hp just in case. When Bisan wakes up second time, RDM kites with gravity. Hopefully soon, Pilwiz is dead.

When it dies, PLD & BLM rest to full. When full, RDM brings Bisan back. PLD Vokes it and cures himself and mages to get hate. RDM & BLM nuke the hell out of it until it's dead. Aero, Blizzard and Thunder work really well but no Stone. Congratulations, you won!

One time we beat the record, the BLM's sleep lasted almost the whole Pilwiz battle. RDM slept the Bisan right before Pilwiz died and we were able to rest to full before it woke. No kiting on that one!

Another thing, even with Barstonra, Stonega II can hit hard. That's why PLD should always stay healed.

You shouldn't need 2-hours or even drinks unless your going for the record or it's an emergency. The first time we did it we got about 2 mil in drops. 2nd time sucked but thrid we got about 2 mil again. Since it was my wife and friend we split the profits down the middle. Fun and easy BCNM and if you use this strategy, you should win all the time.
Worse Run Ever
# Aug 07 2006 at 2:22 AM Rating: Decent
Well, I finally hit 30 with rdm, so I get two of my friends to come try this with me. Seems like good drops, and I could really use some cash. Since this was the first time we did this, I went first just in case we died horribly.

We went in, and found it to be surprisingly easy with Megamikun's method. Beat it, broke record, and then we get to drops...

First Run
Beetle Shell
Staff Belt
Light Opal
Scroll: Absorb-INT
Total: 10k

Wow, it can't get any worse.

Second Run
Beetle Jaw
Jug of Scarlet Sap
Axe Belt
Elm Log
Total: 30k

Third Run
Beetle Shell
Beetle Jaw
Silver Ingot
Chestnut Log
Scroll: Absorb-VIT
Total: 10k

This was on Darksday at 32% Moon. All I can say was that was the most stupid thing ever. :( Only good that came out of this was we beat the record twice. :D

# Jul 07 2006 at 5:33 AM Rating: Decent
this is the most retarded thing ever. i lose /random so its my orb. PLD BLM BLM. we go in, buff, protect, barstone, food, all that. well we sleep bisan (BLM enfeeb was capped, and use seal) it didnt last long enough to get pilwix down to half. and pilwiz SPAMS STONEGA LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE. he will cast it atleast every 8 seconds. needless to say we got utterly raped. we did everything sirenartemus said, we did it to the T. still we got utterly ****** up the ***.
# Aug 11 2007 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
this both blms could have ES than sleep both than blms aspri the hell out of the tougher 1 with stonegawell once with each blm than take out than 1 blm kite the tougher beetle
# Jul 05 2006 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
what are the big drops of this BCNM? i heard gun belt drops but i dont know if that is confirmed or not.
Easy....... im so unlucky
# May 27 2006 at 4:34 AM Rating: Decent
Ok i did this 6 times yesterday, the First 3 times with a taru BLM friend and another random Taru BLM (i was PLD)..... we beat the record everytime. Before we fought record was 10min, on the last of this three runs we got it down to 5min 30secs.... i got 40k of drops, my friend got 10k and the other taru..... he got a gun belt, erase and some other stuff and got 4mil =/
The second set of three i did ith the guy who got 4mil abd his BLM friend( also a taru lol).. didnt beat our prvious record but meh... this time i got 70k worth of drops, the blms friend got 10k and the guy who got 4mil previously.... he got a magicians earring and some other ok drops.... his total for the day: 6mil ; ;

Edited, Sat May 27 04:28:18 2006
Drops not posted right???
# Feb 17 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
I just did this and got a Scroll: magic finale and a Mace belt those aint in the list... And did it with BLM/WHM BLM/WHM PLD/WAR right away we had pld get aggroed and run twards zone. we slept Bisan in the circle and nuked pilwiz as fast as possible before bisan woke up then had pld tank bisan very easy battle but dropes kinda sucked that time maybe something better next time.

just did it a couple more times got a scroll: erase and scroll: absorb INT

Edited, Fri Feb 17 11:27:58 2006
Small guide
# Jan 31 2006 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
25 posts
Me and my Linkshell members always do this to get rid of seals and to make extra gil. setup is:


I have to say the most importaint job you must have is a PLD or WAR. NIN is useless because of the Pilwiz uses stonega like its going out of style. It's also importaint that you have barstone. RDM is also very importaint for gravity.

When you enter, buff up, make sure RDM and BLM have full MP, then RDM Elemental seal and sleep Bisan and then follow gravity. Don't waist MP on enfeebling it. BLM and PLD(WAR) fight Pilwiz while RDM kite, BLM is main healer untill Pilwiz is dead. Once you kill pilwiz, home free!

Let RDM kite Bisan untill BLM has full MP, then when the BLM is ready, voke the Pilwiz off of the RDM. The RDM rest while BLM still cures the PLD(WAR). When the RDM is at a good ammount of MP, the RDM cure and BLM start nuking the Bisan for the win :3!

This BCNM is about co-opperation, if you have that, i'm sure you will win with out a problem. I've only wiped once with this setup, because we tryed a diffrent stratagy.

I hope it was helpful for people having trouble with this BCNM :>
# Jan 20 2006 at 3:00 AM Rating: Decent
we've done this 9 times now. first 2 we failed, both my orb. >< sleep will not work on bisan without elemntal seal, so use bind. setup was paladin/warrior and 2 blackmages/whitemage. we each ended up with a gun belt, and all of us have made over a million now. i got 2.5 million worth of earins so far. we're gonna keep doing it. so easy ^^
Post-patch rng setup.
# Jan 17 2006 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
303 posts
had a few posts open and replied to the wrong one^^;;

Edited, Tue Jan 17 20:08:20 2006
How to beat it. BLM BLM PLD-setup
# Nov 07 2005 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
This is a really easy BCNM...
Startegy: 1 PLD/WAR 2 BLM/WHM

1. Buff up, pld uses Shallop, blms whatever gives you good int and mp (Melon Pie is fine)
PLD makes sure he has Yag drink and Pamama-au-lait (take 2 or 3 if you wanna be really sure)
BLM's use Yag Drinks (2)

Go in, and 1 of the BLM's ES-Sleep's Bisan.
The PLD vokes Pilwiz. The PLD vokes it away from the mages, as the mages each go to 1 side inside the Circle, the PLD fights it at the entrance to the circle. BLM's start with debufs, then start nuking, the BLM that didnt sleep Bisan in the first place should keep an eye on Bisan for when he wakes up. Also, both BLM's keep an eye on the HP of the PLD since StonegaII can hit hard so keep Barstonra up at all times. Also, make sure you go far enough in the circle as BLM, to get out of Stonega Range. BLM's have WaterII at this point, that should be the Spell you are using, it will deal a LOT of dmg, amd Pilwiz will go down fast. Just make sure you do not start overnuking too fast, so the PLD can keep hate. Normally you should even have time to rest up a little bit before Bisan wakes up, if you're good on HP/MP, just start it up, otherwise you can rest a bit while PLD tanks.
Bisan has like no defense against Magic so just Nuke the crap out of it.
The way I would do it was, since BLM's are on each side of the Circle, just let it run from one side to another, and it'll die before it even gets the chance to deal some decent dmg.

I did this strategy at least 10 times a LOONG time ago, and almost every time beat my own record.

If anyone has anything to add to this, feel free. It worked very well for me, and I think I might do it again soon, since I want my Magician Earring back, which is now at 1.6Mil on Siren....

Good Luck all!
RE: How to beat it. BLM BLM PLD-setup
# Dec 14 2005 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
81 posts
Perfect, used PLD,BLM,BLM, followed this strategy and won easy, 6 for 6. As long as the blm's keep barstonra up it's easy. First fight we won in 7+ minutes and the last fight we set the record at 4 min 50 sec.

I (PLD) used Yag drink and Pamama-au-lait before we ran up to the beetles and 1 Yag drink midway through, makes it a cake walk.
My first try
# Oct 14 2005 at 10:44 PM Rating: Decent
I was bored so i decided to try this out got a few peeps to do it, whm/smn, pld/war, blm/nin<me> first time went great basically ele sleep bisan then bind him which really doesnt matter at this point but do it anyways. had the pld take the pilwiz thing and when bisan woke up i kept binding it and running cause sleep wont work again w/out ele. KEEP BARSTONRA up thats y we failed the second one cause i died from stone thingy. i would suggest pld and 1 blm/whm and 1 blm/nin cause utsusemi was the only thing that kept me alive. And ya crap drops first time maybe like 35-40k if im lucky
didnt want to share my secret lol
# Oct 11 2005 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
Ok so ill post how we do this and get the record lol.. Set up pld/war blm/whm blm/whm easy easy.. Eat a rolanberry pie for each mage and take a yag drink just in case things go wrong. Pld eat a taco. Trade your orb. Buff up and make sure you have barstonra on. Pld should not be a galka did it once with a galka very bad experience. (we took 20 damage with the stone and he took 220.. wasnt pretty) OK so you buff up and go in and one of the blms ele sleep the regular beetle Bisan. (have all these things on macro >.<) Bio Pilz and go to work on him. Pld cure himself and voke to keep hate and blms nuke as fast as you can while keeping you and the pld alive. Oh and KEEP barstonra up. Blms are nice for this for the aspir. Bison WILL wake up during your fight with Pilz so watch for it. The second blm will need to eleseal sleep him for the second and LAST time. If you dont kill pilz before the other one wakes up you are dead. And there isnt much rest period in between so dont count on that. Its best to take juices just in case for yourselves and the pld. Once you kill pilz if you arent at almost dead and no mp then youve won. The other beetle is a normal beetle and he is easy to kill. Beat him up get your treasure chests and your done.

Ive done this several times and gotten the record everytime except for the time with the galka lol :) So since i shared.. if you see me in Lakshmi and im wanting to do this dont make me wait behind all of you :P
get the right guy for the job
# Sep 19 2005 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
- /sigh, thsi didnt seem like a difficult fight. . .but it was.

- hers how it goes. Setup:


- we go in fine, attacking and Pilwiz does his Stonga II thing, yes it does hurt but not as much as i thought. our damn whm was right in the AoE so after a couple of hits he was gone. PLD 2hr'd and we got Pilwiz down about 3/4 before it was only me. . .no chance. i'd say next time it will be BLM/WHM so we can sleep Bisan and take Pilwiz first. i over estimated this fight and under prepared, go figure <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/JaPaNbOi007/icon_stressed.gif" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">. end.
# Aug 24 2005 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
1,522 posts
Sounds like two drg/whm's and a blm/whm would do ok on this one.
# Aug 20 2005 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
I can do this at level 28?
a friend and me want it,
the drop rate of the good things is high?
and the beetles are strong?
when i do this BCNM i post a message about it,
send me the anwer to Invader_902@hotmail.com plz

mithra thief/war
stingin sophie 2/6
stray mary 0/0 lol, i try but never pop
# Aug 14 2005 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
41 posts
Did this tonight with two LS members.


RDM/WHM (me)

We did it 3 times and wiped on the second try. Silence dosent stick on Pilwiz and Bisan had to be kited with bind and gravity (sleep did stick). Just remember barstonra and its a breeze. The only drops I can remember that we got was my dispel scroll though =P
Fun bcnm
# Aug 01 2005 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
Did this last night pt setup was PLD/WAR(Zidanx) WHM/BLM(Perrseus) and BLM/NIN(me). Did this 5 times..5/5 owned them all the time with no deaths. Got gunbelt once but other was junk. Gun belt 800~1 mill on Carby. Oh and we broke the record 3 times that night. ^^ Its a fun bcnm im looking forward doing it again. :)
Gun Belt
# Jul 23 2005 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
You can also get a Gun Belt from this BCNM. Sells for about 400-500k on Fenrir

I did this bcnm 3 times (i got a random invite). deal was if we win on ur orb you got to choose one item and the rest would be split. unfortunately for the other two we only deafeated it once and it was my orb :D

setup was nin/war war/??? (galka) and whm/smn

the Galka used a ranged attack using Bloody bolts. he solo'd the Magic casting one only need an occassional cure and Barstonra.

the nin/war and me focused on the other beetle. I cured the nin/war and kept paralyze and slow on teh beetle.

the trick is to keep the magic casting beetle far enough away from the whm and the nin so they don't get hit with stonaga 2. As long as you keep barstonra up the Warrior Galka will be find on his own and probably defeat the magic beetle before the whm and nin defeat theirs.

our first try consisted of war/??? rng/nin and blm/whm. even with enfeebling maxed and int + 20 beetles didn't sleep for long and BLM doesn't have the cure nor ehancing potancy of a whm. Sub SMN was just for some extra mp, sub blm will work just as well.
Second try
# Jul 22 2005 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
Just now me and my friends tested this BCNM AGAIN. First battle: SMN/WHM RDM/SMN WAR/NIN me
So the idea was that RDM sleep then SMN run up astral flow but it didnt work and we died.... Second try was hell much better! Same guys new jobs: BLM/WHM was new in the group.
So we went up BLM sleeped Bisan, Barstonra up and RDM tried to Silence but it didnt work >.<. BLM nuked while cheked Bisan so he didnt wake up. Then something happened o.O Our Barstonra disappeared... BAM BOM CRASH Stonega II BLM Dead... Bisan awake Bisan crush RDM. RDM heals but get interupted I use utsusemi for hate and voke Pilwiz... Pilwiz uses Stonega II almost dead o.o then Pilwiz uses Power Attack on me and BAAAM dead.... Then RDM runned but died by Bisan... We couldnt kill them in two try's! We gonna fight this one tomorrow to I think!
perfect setup
# Jul 22 2005 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
i was thinking, if ele seal sleep lands on the normal one pretty sucsessfuly, i suppose a bst could easily charm it and make it fight the magical one, so in my opinion wouldn't bst/nin whm/smn rng/nin be the best for this?

bst charms normal one and uses 2hr, makes it fight the magic one, after that is over bst could use call pet, and call homunculous (my favorite) or any other jug, and it would be 4 things fighting the magic one, with a whm healing

you could easily win with this setup if you get the charm off in the begining.
# Jul 14 2005 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
My Linkshell (DTP) do this one alot. For anyone that dont know, an optimal party set up is RNG,RNG,WHM or THF,THF,WHM or RNG,THF,WHM the thing with thief is that u need to have marksmenship skill capped. Its best to use ranged for this one i just started lvling rng for this one im at 16
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