Carapace Combatants
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Battle NotesIn order to enter the battlefield you will need to bring a Sky Orb, which is obtained by trading 30 Beastmen's Seals to Shami at (H-8) in Port Jeuno. When you are ready, trade the Sky Orb to the Burning Circle inside Horlais Peak and choose to enter the battle Carapace Combatants. Up to 3 people may enter and you will all receive a level 30 restriction. You have 15 minutes to win. You will fight two beetles: Bisan & Pilwiz. Pilwiz is a Black Mage beetle that likes to cast Stonega II. Bisan on the other hand is a fairly ordinary beetle. StrategiesThis page last modified 2008-04-04 13:47:07. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Has anyone tried Pld/drk/blm trio for this? i personally did pld/blm/blm setup and it worked well(we actually now hold leviathan record for this bcnm ^^) but my bud is a drk and i would like to know if anyone actually got a drk involved in this one.
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I've now beaten this upwards of 20 times or so, with the following strategy.
Party Setup: PLD/WAR, BLM/WHM, BLM/WHM
Paladin Protect 2s himself and Shells the party, The BLM/WHMs can Protectra themselves. Barstonra should be cast right before approaching to ensure that it lasts until Pilwiz dies. Run to the entrance and the absolute first thing that you should do is Elemental Seal + Sleep Bisan. Have the Paladin run in and Provoke Pilwiz, get both Black Mages inside the AoE range for Stonega II. While this may sound weird, I've noticed it mitigates the damage that any one target receives. Bisan will probably wake up before Pilwiz goes down, if this happens, have the other BLM Ele Seal+Sleep or Bind Bisan in place, both work well.
When Pilwiz is dead, Bisan goes down comparitively easy. Our party used Pineapple Juice for drinks and I (the PLD) used a Fish Mithkabob for defense.
The biggest threat you face towards losing this BCNM is having Pilwiz throw a couple of rapid Stonega 2s. If you get hit with a Stonega 2, Drain should be the next spell out of your hands, and then Cure2s if necessary.
Drops for this BCNM were a bit sporadic. We'd have occasions where we got nothing but crafting materials. We've also gotten 2 Utsusemi: Nis, 3 Fire 2s, and a Warlock's Earring (valued at 300k on Kujata) from it. If you don't have any other option, or just want a fun fight, doing these 3 man BCNM30s is a good time. ^_^
Party Setup: PLD/WAR, BLM/WHM, BLM/WHM
Paladin Protect 2s himself and Shells the party, The BLM/WHMs can Protectra themselves. Barstonra should be cast right before approaching to ensure that it lasts until Pilwiz dies. Run to the entrance and the absolute first thing that you should do is Elemental Seal + Sleep Bisan. Have the Paladin run in and Provoke Pilwiz, get both Black Mages inside the AoE range for Stonega II. While this may sound weird, I've noticed it mitigates the damage that any one target receives. Bisan will probably wake up before Pilwiz goes down, if this happens, have the other BLM Ele Seal+Sleep or Bind Bisan in place, both work well.
When Pilwiz is dead, Bisan goes down comparitively easy. Our party used Pineapple Juice for drinks and I (the PLD) used a Fish Mithkabob for defense.
The biggest threat you face towards losing this BCNM is having Pilwiz throw a couple of rapid Stonega 2s. If you get hit with a Stonega 2, Drain should be the next spell out of your hands, and then Cure2s if necessary.
Drops for this BCNM were a bit sporadic. We'd have occasions where we got nothing but crafting materials. We've also gotten 2 Utsusemi: Nis, 3 Fire 2s, and a Warlock's Earring (valued at 300k on Kujata) from it. If you don't have any other option, or just want a fun fight, doing these 3 man BCNM30s is a good time. ^_^
Me and a couple guys are gonna try this one out today. We'll have a war/drg , rng/war , and a whm/blm. it's gonna be kinda tough without being able to sleep bisan while we murder pilwiz. both us melees will have to 2 hr right off the bat and hope pilwiz goes down quick. Anyone think this is a viable plan?
I think the beetles set a new record with us...
WHM/BLM, MNK/THF, RDM/SMN
We go in, we buff up.
RDM cast sleep on the weaker one, resisted twice. I elemental seal > Silence on the wizard beelte, it gets resisted. Well here I guess we all panicked and died horrably. The MNK did her two hour and did a good deal of damage but we still loss. We might try again... I won't let them bet us so easily!
Edited, Mon Oct 4 21:48:00 2004
WHM/BLM, MNK/THF, RDM/SMN
We go in, we buff up.
RDM cast sleep on the weaker one, resisted twice. I elemental seal > Silence on the wizard beelte, it gets resisted. Well here I guess we all panicked and died horrably. The MNK did her two hour and did a good deal of damage but we still loss. We might try again... I won't let them bet us so easily!
Edited, Mon Oct 4 21:48:00 2004
Here was our party set up: Pld/War, Rng/Nin, Brd/Whm. It was pretty easy, but the PLD died right at the end due to my mistake with Divine Seal + Cure II.. I hit the Rng instead of him. >.<
Anyway, we did it easily, the Pld went in and voked Pilwiz and I ran in and cast Lullaby on Bisan (Mary's Horn & +14 CHR). The Rng proceeded to murder Pilwiz, occassionaly pulling hate from the Pld.
I took Bisan accross the other side of the circle and kept him asleep the whole time. There was one moment when Foe Lullaby didn't stick, but then I just hit him with Horde right away.
All in all it was a really easy fight, maybe one Yagudo Drink or a au Lait would have saved the Pld's life. Our drops were crap and I cringe about wasting 30 seals on this when I could have done BCNM 40. Oh well, we got:
Mythril Ore
Steel Ingot
Absorb-VIT
Beetle Shell
Anyway, we did it easily, the Pld went in and voked Pilwiz and I ran in and cast Lullaby on Bisan (Mary's Horn & +14 CHR). The Rng proceeded to murder Pilwiz, occassionaly pulling hate from the Pld.
I took Bisan accross the other side of the circle and kept him asleep the whole time. There was one moment when Foe Lullaby didn't stick, but then I just hit him with Horde right away.
All in all it was a really easy fight, maybe one Yagudo Drink or a au Lait would have saved the Pld's life. Our drops were crap and I cringe about wasting 30 seals on this when I could have done BCNM 40. Oh well, we got:
Mythril Ore
Steel Ingot
Absorb-VIT
Beetle Shell
Ooops, Wrong Thread
Meant to be in "Wings of Fury" BCNM 20 :-x
My LS Crew Hit this up for some Thunder Pacts, and we Grabbed a Video of the Fight.
We're About 7/9 on this Fight between our LS.
Edited, Mon Sep 6 11:39:00 2004
Meant to be in "Wings of Fury" BCNM 20 :-x
My LS Crew Hit this up for some Thunder Pacts, and we Grabbed a Video of the Fight.
We're About 7/9 on this Fight between our LS.
Edited, Mon Sep 6 11:39:00 2004
I'm about 1500 xp from getting level 31pld/31war.
All I can think about is doing this BCNM 30 quest, or the other one. But, the other one sounds like no place for a pld. I really want the Mercenary's earring, but it would be nice just to get some decent AH items to sell for some bling bling. I haven't killed, or camped any NM's as of yet, but since I'm gonna be level 31 pld and have a decent xp buffer, I want to. I just wonder if I should spend 30 beastmen seals on this, or a diff BCNM. I'll post back if I decide to try this....with 2 blm definately, or a rng.....
All I can think about is doing this BCNM 30 quest, or the other one. But, the other one sounds like no place for a pld. I really want the Mercenary's earring, but it would be nice just to get some decent AH items to sell for some bling bling. I haven't killed, or camped any NM's as of yet, but since I'm gonna be level 31 pld and have a decent xp buffer, I want to. I just wonder if I should spend 30 beastmen seals on this, or a diff BCNM. I'll post back if I decide to try this....with 2 blm definately, or a rng.....
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Well, after weeks of begging my ls for help 2 finally broke in and we took these 2 {easy prey} beetles on. I wanted a mercenary earring badly. We had me pld/war, blm/whm, blm/smn.
We went 3/3, never used any 2-hours, and each only used one yagudo drink per fight.
We tried buffs b4 we got in there, but when we entered they wore off :-(. So we recast protectra, shellra, and barstonera...I cast protect II on myself. Then we rested for 20 secs, popped the drinks and ran in.
The blm ES>>sleep bisan right off the bat, the second battle it didn't work the first time so the other blm ES slept him. I kept the mob on one side of the bf, while the blm were on the other.
Well, I go get aggro from Pilwiz. I hacked him up while blms nuked him to hell. I used shield bash to interrupt stonaga2 once. When he did get it off it only hit me for 35-60 dmg, and blms were out of range. We killed Pilwiz off pretty fast, then moved to Bisan.
I didn't have any hate tools left, so it was mostly me running after him, hacking him with my sword while the 2 blms bounced him back and forth.
They both went down in 5 mins and 5 secs. We got the record on our server.
I warped back to Jeuno 2x for orbs. The second fight went easier, but we killed them in 5 mins and 9 secs. And the third time we killed them in 6 mins some odd seconds...our blm/whm died b/c she had a phone call, so wasn't paying attention when Bisan woke up...me and the other blm killed Pilwiz. And then went on to Bisan. About halfway through him the blm/smn ran out of mp so he sat to rest...I popped a hp regen drink. And by the time we finally finished him off I was at 75hp and 3mp.
We got some pretty good drops, can't remember them...but it totaled to be about 450k for all 3 fights, so about 150k a peace. I didn't get my merc earring, but got pleanty of gil to by one.
Edited, Fri Jul 30 22:15:43 2004
We went 3/3, never used any 2-hours, and each only used one yagudo drink per fight.
We tried buffs b4 we got in there, but when we entered they wore off :-(. So we recast protectra, shellra, and barstonera...I cast protect II on myself. Then we rested for 20 secs, popped the drinks and ran in.
The blm ES>>sleep bisan right off the bat, the second battle it didn't work the first time so the other blm ES slept him. I kept the mob on one side of the bf, while the blm were on the other.
Well, I go get aggro from Pilwiz. I hacked him up while blms nuked him to hell. I used shield bash to interrupt stonaga2 once. When he did get it off it only hit me for 35-60 dmg, and blms were out of range. We killed Pilwiz off pretty fast, then moved to Bisan.
I didn't have any hate tools left, so it was mostly me running after him, hacking him with my sword while the 2 blms bounced him back and forth.
They both went down in 5 mins and 5 secs. We got the record on our server.
I warped back to Jeuno 2x for orbs. The second fight went easier, but we killed them in 5 mins and 9 secs. And the third time we killed them in 6 mins some odd seconds...our blm/whm died b/c she had a phone call, so wasn't paying attention when Bisan woke up...me and the other blm killed Pilwiz. And then went on to Bisan. About halfway through him the blm/smn ran out of mp so he sat to rest...I popped a hp regen drink. And by the time we finally finished him off I was at 75hp and 3mp.
We got some pretty good drops, can't remember them...but it totaled to be about 450k for all 3 fights, so about 150k a peace. I didn't get my merc earring, but got pleanty of gil to by one.
Edited, Fri Jul 30 22:15:43 2004
The Burning Circles now actually erase all buffs from you before you go in which is a real pain in the ***. You're forced to waste MP before fighting them which sucks.
Anyway I went with PLD, BLM, and RNG following the instructions here to the letter and it all went to hell. I had Barstonra up and Stone 2 did 287 damage. That was enough to get any of us into orange.
The PLD didn't go to use 2hour til he already died and the RNG was too late and unable to do anything by the time he died. He was ready to but Bisan woke up extra early and Stonega 2 + a hit from Bisan = death.
Do you think that the people who got to abuse the prebuffing were the only people who could do this BCNM?
Edited, Fri Jul 30 06:01:08 2004
Anyway I went with PLD, BLM, and RNG following the instructions here to the letter and it all went to hell. I had Barstonra up and Stone 2 did 287 damage. That was enough to get any of us into orange.
The PLD didn't go to use 2hour til he already died and the RNG was too late and unable to do anything by the time he died. He was ready to but Bisan woke up extra early and Stonega 2 + a hit from Bisan = death.
Do you think that the people who got to abuse the prebuffing were the only people who could do this BCNM?
Edited, Fri Jul 30 06:01:08 2004
Scholar
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I posted our strategy about 15 minutes after we won, while waiting on our 2hours to be available again. We had to buff after entering the battle field, the PLD just had to wait to get his MP back before we went in. So yes, it is possible to win if you buff after entering. With the strategy I posted, the RNG is the key player in the battle, and the outcome will hinge on their ability to change bolt types very quickly while staying in range of both beetles (when Bisan is awake) and keeping the BLM out of Stonega range..
I'm sorry it didn't work for you, might have been a combination of the early sleep release and lack of resist to earth spells. By any chance, did you fight them on Earthsday?
I'm sorry it didn't work for you, might have been a combination of the early sleep release and lack of resist to earth spells. By any chance, did you fight them on Earthsday?
Scholar
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Just defeated this BCNM30 battle twice. Somewhat disappointed in the drops from both victories, ended up with 2 Pick Belts, 1 Cestus Belt - all in all around 30k..
Party make up: PLD/WAR, BLM/WHM, RNG/SAM. We had an unusual strategy we developed after two failed attempts, and with some tweaking after breaking the server record on the first success, we went back and shaved another 30 seconds off to do it in 7:17.
Start out debuffing both beetles with Acid Bolts, while the BLM readies Elemental Seal + Sleep on Bisan (melee beetle). With sleep on, the PLD provokes and tanks Pilwiz, BLM slowly nukes the beetle and keeps an eye on the napping Bisan. Once he wakes, the PLD provokes and tanks him, and the ranger 2hour on Pilwiz, switching to Bloody bolts and tanks as best they can. The PLD solos Bisan during this time, getting extra heals from the BLM between their nukes on Pilwiz. If the caster turns on the BLM, the ranger uses barrage to pull it back, but by this time it should die shortly. Once Pilwiz is down, Bisan follows right behind, being well softened by the PLD before the damage dealers turn their attention on it.
The BLM and PLD were using Yagudo Drinks, eating Rolanberry Pie and Boiled Crab, respectively.
This strategy might not work for your group, you really need to be able to communicate with your mates well, in case something goes wrong and the plan has to change mid-battle.
Best of luck,
Mefya, the fiesty mithra.
Fairy World
50RNG/25SAM
Party make up: PLD/WAR, BLM/WHM, RNG/SAM. We had an unusual strategy we developed after two failed attempts, and with some tweaking after breaking the server record on the first success, we went back and shaved another 30 seconds off to do it in 7:17.
Start out debuffing both beetles with Acid Bolts, while the BLM readies Elemental Seal + Sleep on Bisan (melee beetle). With sleep on, the PLD provokes and tanks Pilwiz, BLM slowly nukes the beetle and keeps an eye on the napping Bisan. Once he wakes, the PLD provokes and tanks him, and the ranger 2hour on Pilwiz, switching to Bloody bolts and tanks as best they can. The PLD solos Bisan during this time, getting extra heals from the BLM between their nukes on Pilwiz. If the caster turns on the BLM, the ranger uses barrage to pull it back, but by this time it should die shortly. Once Pilwiz is down, Bisan follows right behind, being well softened by the PLD before the damage dealers turn their attention on it.
The BLM and PLD were using Yagudo Drinks, eating Rolanberry Pie and Boiled Crab, respectively.
This strategy might not work for your group, you really need to be able to communicate with your mates well, in case something goes wrong and the plan has to change mid-battle.
Best of luck,
Mefya, the fiesty mithra.
Fairy World
50RNG/25SAM
Thanks Aphordisiak for the strategy. We used this exact strategy 3 times this weekend and are 3/3 with this BCNM. We are going to make it a static since it worked so well. Here were our spoils:
Pilferer's Earring
Esquire's Earring
Magician's Earring
Fire II
Katana Obi X 2
Absorb-INT X 2
Beetle Shell X 3
And some other belt that I can't remember.
Now just have to wait for it all to sell :)
Pilferer's Earring
Esquire's Earring
Magician's Earring
Fire II
Katana Obi X 2
Absorb-INT X 2
Beetle Shell X 3
And some other belt that I can't remember.
Now just have to wait for it all to sell :)
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well me Stromreaver lv30 BLM/WHM
Murph lv30 DRK/THF
Goramesis Lv30 WAR/MNK kicked these beetles asses easyily. We broke the record by 30 seconds and killed them in 5 mins and all we got was 23k in drops. i mean WTF is that.
Edited, Fri Jul 16 21:51:44 2004
Murph lv30 DRK/THF
Goramesis Lv30 WAR/MNK kicked these beetles asses easyily. We broke the record by 30 seconds and killed them in 5 mins and all we got was 23k in drops. i mean WTF is that.
Edited, Fri Jul 16 21:51:44 2004
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I tried this bcnm with Drk(me),whm and a war. we got smashed i tried to put the fighter to sleep 2 times but resisted both then the mage one used stonegea2 and did 400 damage to all of us, killed me war dead in 1 more hit and whm ran around area for 20 sec with 34 on health.
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Is it possible to charm either of these? I'd be pleasantly surprised if you can. With only two mobs, it seems right up a BST's alley.
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You do need a Sky Orb for the NM quest. Nothing on the BCNM30 description about says anything about it unless you look up the mobs... Sky Orbs from Jeuno..
Leebo, Chaosbringer and I (reddogg) were the first to clear this BCNM30 at Horalis Peak on my server! I want to add to that that my server is easily 2/3+ Japanese and winning this first is very sweet. Sorry it just feels like such an accomplishment.
Party was RDM, MNK and RNG. We did dump all our 2hrs. I RDM didnt burn through my mp, just used chainspell to recast sleep and other enfeebs quickly.
1) Before zoning to fight area buffed up with Protect2 and Shell1 and Refresh on myself RDM.
2) Zoned and cast Barstonera and ate food apple pie and mithkabob respectively.
3) I started with Bind on the easier mob Bisan. I tried to silence the main mob Pilwiz to no avail. The 2nd sleep landed on Bisan. Finished enfeebling Pilwiz and it died. The monk kept the hate well because of using the 2hr.
4) Bisan woke up and we attacked. Transfixion chain was used and I burst with Banishaga. One last Divine Seal and C2 kept the monk alive.
***tips***
Pilwiz will cast Stonaga2 many times. Barstonera is a must. In addition spread out accross the area to keep out of harms way. Bisan is no pushover. He hits hard.
***note***
the drop listed here on allakhazam as earrings are wrong! this bcnm30 will get you various belts.
***edit***
sorry i forgot... we got a belt as a drop... if we are lucky its maybe worth 10-50k. will try to edit later with more details on the drop. of course it is a latent effect ><
Edited, Mon May 3 17:57:04 2004
Party was RDM, MNK and RNG. We did dump all our 2hrs. I RDM didnt burn through my mp, just used chainspell to recast sleep and other enfeebs quickly.
1) Before zoning to fight area buffed up with Protect2 and Shell1 and Refresh on myself RDM.
2) Zoned and cast Barstonera and ate food apple pie and mithkabob respectively.
3) I started with Bind on the easier mob Bisan. I tried to silence the main mob Pilwiz to no avail. The 2nd sleep landed on Bisan. Finished enfeebling Pilwiz and it died. The monk kept the hate well because of using the 2hr.
4) Bisan woke up and we attacked. Transfixion chain was used and I burst with Banishaga. One last Divine Seal and C2 kept the monk alive.
***tips***
Pilwiz will cast Stonaga2 many times. Barstonera is a must. In addition spread out accross the area to keep out of harms way. Bisan is no pushover. He hits hard.
***note***
the drop listed here on allakhazam as earrings are wrong! this bcnm30 will get you various belts.
***edit***
sorry i forgot... we got a belt as a drop... if we are lucky its maybe worth 10-50k. will try to edit later with more details on the drop. of course it is a latent effect ><
Edited, Mon May 3 17:57:04 2004
Congratulations on beating this one.
I like the idea used for the other BCNM.
That is, 3 BLMs.
This is entirely hypothetical, but suppose you ES > Sleep the harder one, then ES > Sleep the easier one, couldn't you then spam Aspir on the harder one until it stopped draining MP?
Then ES > Sleep if it wakes up, finish off the first, and work on the second. It sounds hard, but I wonder if that would be easy?
Anyway, it's all hypothetical. I really like that idea though.
Some of the earrings go for as much as 150,000 on Titan (I think the THF earring is doing well.)
I like the idea used for the other BCNM.
That is, 3 BLMs.
This is entirely hypothetical, but suppose you ES > Sleep the harder one, then ES > Sleep the easier one, couldn't you then spam Aspir on the harder one until it stopped draining MP?
Then ES > Sleep if it wakes up, finish off the first, and work on the second. It sounds hard, but I wonder if that would be easy?
Anyway, it's all hypothetical. I really like that idea though.
Some of the earrings go for as much as 150,000 on Titan (I think the THF earring is doing well.)
I don't know but I think the drop is randomized and even MysteryTour says this place drops earrings.
Ikari
Ikari
Just Did this
It was me(DRK) a SAM and a WHM.
I cast sleep on one of them and we ganged up on the other one. We all Ended up using our 2 hours but beat them.
It was me(DRK) a SAM and a WHM.
I cast sleep on one of them and we ganged up on the other one. We all Ended up using our 2 hours but beat them.
I did it. I had a Ranger - Black Mage - Paladin in my pt. Pld(50), Ranger(30), Black Mage(50) But lvl cap is 30.
Voke Pilwiz first. As soon as you pulled him, the other will aggro. The Ranger then uses his 2 Hour, + Barrage on Pilwin. Paladin will loose hate which is Normal. Paladin does Invincible, provoke and gets the aggro back. Blm keep on Nuking the Beetle with Ice or Water Related Spells. As soon as Pilwiz is dead, the other one is easy to beat. The Black Mage can even use Manafont if he would like, lol. :).
Good Luck all
Voke Pilwiz first. As soon as you pulled him, the other will aggro. The Ranger then uses his 2 Hour, + Barrage on Pilwin. Paladin will loose hate which is Normal. Paladin does Invincible, provoke and gets the aggro back. Blm keep on Nuking the Beetle with Ice or Water Related Spells. As soon as Pilwiz is dead, the other one is easy to beat. The Black Mage can even use Manafont if he would like, lol. :).
Good Luck all
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I played this with some friends, and we got completely raped. I think you need either a BLM to sleep one of the beetles, or a BST to charm it. Barstonra, of course, is a must, and Shellra II+ before you go in would also be nice. The beetle's magic hits hard, and the other one hurt us for like 100 HP a hit.
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