Hitting the Marquisate - THF AF3  

Start Area: Windurst Woods
Start NPC:Nanaa Mihgo (J - 3)
Prerequisites:The Tenshodo Showdown - THF AF1
Related Areas:Garlaige Citadel
Related Mobs:Chandelier
Mission:6 - 0
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
(Average from 20 ratings)
Items Required:Chandelier Coal
Quake Grenade
Items Granted:Rogue's Poulaines
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Sat Jul 7 19:26:26 2007

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Visit two of the eight active thieves gathered by the Tenshodo, and confirm the signatures of the people who originally wrote the documents in the "letter from the Tenshodo."


Note: You must have completed Thick as Thieves - THF AF2 to start this quest.

Head to Windurst Woods and talk to Nanaa Mihgo to receive the key item Cat Burglar's Note. She requests two more thief signatures.

Go to the jewelry store in Lower Jeuno and speak to Yatniel, who asks for four Quake Grenades. He is outside the shop on the bridge. Gernades drop off Goblin Miners in LoO or can be purchased for 7k from some guy in Norg and Bastok or you can purchase them from the AH for around 5k. Trade Yatniel the grenades for his signature.

Next, go to Mhaura and speak to Hagain, who is upstairs in the Sailor's Stay. Hagain gives you the key item Bomb Incense and sends you to the Garlaige Citadel to kill a bomb NM.

Head to Garlaige Citadel, bringing at least four people to open banishing gates in your path. You must check a series of ???s in the zone. They are at:

  • I-9, near the first banishing gate.
  • H-9, just to the west of the first ???.
  • F-9, through the first banishing gate.
  • F/G-9, across the hall from the last ??? and to the east.
  • G-8/9, back toward the banishing gate.
  • G-7, to the north of the last ???.

The final ??? is at I-6 (east of the last ??? on the above list near where the drop off is after the 3rd Banishing Gate.). Clicking it will cause a notorious monster bomb named Chandelier to spawn. The bomb will self-destruct immediately if he aggros before he is claimed. HE aggros sight and magic so be sure to only use ranged attacks or provoke.


My strat: (me, Israel)75NIN/WAR, (Alora)66THF/NIN, (Studly)75DRK/SAM, (Jocie)75RDM/WHM~(Icemanx)75WHM/BLM(Dual boxing characters). We stood around the corner while THF went and popped and used hide. I used Tonko: Ni then ran up and voked. We raped it pretty bad. He didn't use Self Destruct at all and the DRK had Stun on macro ready to use. When you kill Chandelier, the he drops your Chandelier Coal.

When you get your coal, go back to Mhaura and speak to Hagain. Trade him the Chandelier Coal and head back to Nanaa Mihgo in Windurst Woods. She'll ask you a question, the answer is "BLANK." She sends you to Ordelle's Caves. Before you go, pick up a Pickaxe because you'll feel like a dumbass when you reach the ??? and don't have one. Go through Ordells Caves like you're going to hunt the Brown Belt NM and Stroper Chyme. Zone to La Theine Plaeau. Stay left and you'll reach the ???. Trade/use your pickaxe and walla! You'll get a cutscene and your Rogue's Poulaines.

(Walkthough through Ordelle's Caves: Go to the hole at H-11/12 on the same map as when you first entered the caves, and drop down the hole. Head east to the tunnel at I-11, being careful to not fall off the cliff. After some stairs, take a left at the intersection at I-6. Turn into the tunnel to the right at H-9. Follow that tunnel to zone back into La Theine Plateau.)

Quest Series

This quest is part of the thief Artifact Gear quest series:

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# Sep 27 2009 at 4:22 AM Rating: Default
Just did this quest and found that the guide here is not ever so helpful.

Apologies if some1 has said this already further down, but i don't think so.

firstly, you have to check the ???s in order. The order above is correct, but finding them can be hard. When you find them, you may need to tilt ur camera angle up so u can check the ??? without it being out of range. when u check it correctly, it will ask you if you want to use the bomb ash. say yes. if it doesnt say this it will either say 'you see nothing special' (in which case you haven't flagged the quest properly), or 'there is a hole in the ceiling' (in which case you haven't done them in the right order).

The bomb fight isn't as bad as people make out, provided you have a few party members. We went thf/nin, rdm/whm, sam/nin, bst/nin, smn/whm - all 70+. Both myself and the SAM needed the boots (you don't need to be thf to check the ???s) so we invised up and stood round the corner while SAM checked ???. as soon as short CS is over, you have just enough time to use tonko: ni (i don't think casting time of ichi is short enough, but i haven't tried). he runs away and the BST moved in to engage.

We chose the BST to engage because he had axe equipped, so if for some reason the tonko: ni didn't work or was too slow and the bomb self-destructed, he could use Smash Axe to stun it (remember to build TP before you start).

Once engaged it was an easy fight. first time bomb didn't use self-destruct and we got item. second time (after 15min wait) we did the same and the only difference was that the bomb self-destructed right at the end of the fight, and we didn't stun in time. However, we still got the drop, so it seems that you CAN get the drop from self-destruct, but i think we got a bit lucky.

If you scroll down the posted messages here, there is a link to a really good THF af guide which i used for this quest. it has maps of garlaige citadel with the 7 ??? points marked on in order which made things rly easy.

Good luck with this, i'm going to kick maat's butt now :)

Edited, Sep 27th 2009 8:23am by gsuk

Edited, Sep 27th 2009 10:16am by gsuk
Ordelle's Cave explained....
# Sep 07 2008 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
OK, this part I found confusing in the guide so here it is in full and simplified:
Make sure you have a pickaxe with you and go to the F-7 entrance from LaTheine to Ordelle's cave.Once in the caves, go to I-5/6 and go to next map. From I-5/6 on the next map, head to H-9 and go to yet anoher map.You will now be on another map still on H-9. Go to H-11/12 and drop down the hole.This brings you to H-11. Head east and on to the next map.Zone out to LaTheine at G-10 and just go west till you find the ??? and trade your pickaxe to it and watch the cutscene. Hope this helps all you thieves!! Good luck!
# May 23 2008 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
95 posts
Spent awhile on this quest and due to the crappy rendition of the walk-through, I went and beefed up the content so people doing this for the first time will go to the right places, in the right order and with the right gear (pickaxe).

Edited, May 23rd 2008 11:17pm by babbott
Too Weak for Sam/Nin
# May 21 2008 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
Went in after reading the posts here and thought it was a lost cause. But couldn't get my LS to help me so i went solo as Sam/Nin.

So i finish all of the CS's then pop the nm and a prism powder to avoid agro. Next i engaged and hit my 2hr. Yuki > Gekko > fragmentation > Kasha > Light did roughtly 3400 and brought it down about a third of its HP.

I'm think "oh god im dead" but then i look at the battle log and all i see is Miss Miss Miss Paralyzed Shadow etc. The debuffs from yuki and kasha were definitly usefull as always and the shadows absorbed anything else, when shadows were down i poped Third Eye and then recasted.

Was only hit one time the entire fight and took away about 300hp. I was in norm tp gear (which means no eva gear and even a Hauby) so his acc was poor along with being blind. Took about 1.5min to kill him and got my coal.

I tried to save tp for tachi: hobaku for stun on self destruct but he never tried it so i just finished him with a Gekko.

Not difficult at all. Went in expecting the worst and it turned out to be the opposite. GL to anyone else trying it. By my personal experience this nm was {Too Weak}
NIN/DRK = win
# Dec 28 2007 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
Solo'd this tonight 75 NIN/DRK,

I started the battle with kingdom signet staff equiped and used weapon bash to stop self destruct, after he was enfeebled it was a pretty easy fight, didnt land a hit on me, got 36 exp and my coal^^
# Nov 26 2007 at 1:21 AM Rating: Decent
this how it went down.
we ran around for bout an hour befor actually poppin tha damn NM lol becuz tha ??? bs, anywas we found tha right one i had fell behind from pt so figured they had pop it cuz i seen Ranged attack macro, so im bout 20 feet away, 1.2k healths falls by chunks.. BAM 1 drk goes down, >.> so i figure this mafaka hits hard lol, BAM 2nd drk falls.. so im like holy hell.. then it went to thf, i got there intime. chi blasted it, began to tank, shadows fell put them back up utsusemi ni, and then thf gets blood aggro, and somehow i get hate from it.. 2 mobs swingin away at me. then it does sleepga (skeleton) wipes my shadows -.- bomb his me for 470hp. O.o ichi was to slow, hits me for 500 O.O hits me 3 more times for same amount and i die.. round 1 we wiped. HP'd came back

round 2:
ok since now we know how this **** works, heres how we did it, x2 75drk's both /sam, me (75mnk/nin) and thf 55thf/nin, we builed tp, ran around lookin for tha right ???, found and pop't, i chi blasted it, and drk stunned, engaged,asuran fist, slap't hundred fists, skillchainin with both drk's Darkness, it wen down fast this time, mnk tank ftw lol, thf got her item we cut out, make sure u got stunners for this bish lol or u will fail with drop, and make sure u got a shadow tanker aswell, or u will be expected to heal alot, hope this help't lol peace
Not working.....
# Jul 18 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmm Talk to Nanaa, talk to Yatniel, trade grenades to Yatniel.. not many steps to miss and yet Yatniel refuses to take my 4 quake grenades. Tried trading all 4 at once, didn't work, tried trading 1 at a time, didn't work... tried doing it as DRK, didn't work.. changed to THF, didn't work. <.<;
which ??? ?!
# Jul 08 2007 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
I've been having trouble with the last step of the quest, getting the af piece from a ??? spot using a pickaxe.

The ??? that I was sure is the right one for this quest won't give me the AF piece. All the guides I've seen agree that the correct ??? is in the SW corner of H-10 in La Theine, down in the canyon that can only be accessed through Ordelle's Caves, and that it is in a stand of tall flowers. This is the ??? I've been trying. Can anyone confirm that it's the right one? Or help me find the right one if that isn't it?

PS - yes I'm sure I've done all the steps up to that point properly, I'm only concerned with whether or not this ??? is the correct one.
which ??? ?!
# Jul 09 2007 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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# Mar 20 2007 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
Best AF link out there gives maps and everything. Someone else posted a copied page from this site but i found this very helpful. It tells you everything you need to complete all of these AF quests.
NPC location
# Feb 27 2007 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Just to clarify this guy (Yatniel) is on the upper ledge in Lower Jeuno NEAR the jewellery store not inside -.-
Hitting the Marquisate - THF AF3
# Feb 13 2007 at 4:55 AM Rating: Decent
LOL i just have to tell what happened to me. well party set up was 75pld/nin 75war/nin 75nin/war and 61drk/whm <me>, frist 1 to pop was the war all of us had TP so we all used it XD and it never even tried to blow up ; ;
now we had to wait 10mins till i could pop it so while we waited we were talking and i said "I bet when its my turn it blows up and we don't get drop".
so anyway i pop it and straight away it readies Self-destruct and i couldn't stun it till then nin had provoked it was very close i nearly had a heart attack then we all WS but for me it was last Resort and souleater it hit me once for just under 600 i got down to 17hp XD, but we got the drop ^^
Bomb spawn problem
# Jan 31 2007 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent

Edited, Jan 31st 2007 10:53pm by JoseAgua
# Dec 15 2006 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
This NM hits hard as ****. Take caution when fighting this guy if your tank is below 65. I would recommend a NIN tank if your doing this with a normal party of lvl 52-60's searching for AF. I helped a THF do this quest and the party got slapped around pretty bad.

First setup was: THF65, DRK70(me), PLD60, and RDM52
This setup got us wiped quick as the PLD could not maintain hate over my Guillotine and the NM critical'd me for 600+dmg then a normal hit at about 300+, rest of the pt went down real fast after that.

Second setup after finding a couple of peeps in the Citadel willing to help:
THF65, DRK70, PLD60, RDM52, PLD75, WHM75
This time it went much better. PLD75 was able to keep the hate after i took the first swing and the THF SATA off of him. After that it was hack and slash and when NM was at 30% i guillotine for 1k dmg and the win.
# Jan 10 2007 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
On the last ??? make sure to have Hide ready. Immediately after the cutscene use Hide. Then have your party who were hiding around the corner come around and engage the bomb. Kill it making sure not to let it use Self-destruct.
Really good Guide! with Maps and points!
# Nov 20 2006 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
Great Guide with Maps and points!

made by one of our ls members:

Edited, Nov 20th 2006 at 2:33am PST by Chainspell
Rogue's Poulaines O
# Nov 11 2006 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
Did this today with a 74BLU 75WHM 61THF(ME) 61RDM*. I didn't know bout which ??? i needed to check or w/e but RDM told me the positions and order of them. I don't think order was right but they were definetely places where ??? were. Here is the list RDM gave me. I-9 H-9 F-9 F/G-9 G-8/9 G-7 I-6(BOMB).

OK now the ??? all appear in similar looking corners on map. I-9 is first ??? to check and this is BEFORE you enter 1st banishing gate, if u examined right ??? u will get a CS. After the CS it will tell you which direction next ??? you should check is at, which in my case was H-9 also BEFORE first banishing gate, if it was the right ??? again you will get CS again and told next direction of ???. First two ??? are BEFORE 1st banishing gate everytime i was told.

Now you just go past 1st banishing gate and look for ??? 3-7, 7th ??? is bomb so be ready. It doesnt matter if you check wrong one but it speeds things up if u check where CS pointed u to first. Well for 3-6 u should be getting a hang of what u are doing to locate the ???, there might be more positions i didnt list but not sure. I only needed to keep myself sneaked it seemed but tonko'd up just in case. Sneak doesnt wear when u check the ???'s.

As for the fight i can't really say too much on that except that some other thf group jumped in line ahead of us and popped/hide NM which was left unclaimed but we didnt steal. Anyways that pt died with mob round 55-60% and we finished it off no prob. They were all dead and NM was 1/2 dead so we got, feel just as bad as they did when they took our turn. Blue got hit twice when shadows down for 400ish and a critical of almost 1k but that was that. Didn't try to blow up so all good. Got drop.

Went to mhaura traded item to npc, went to windy to talk to the mithra, went to ordelles cave with my PICKAXE, and exited to la theine plateau near Molborger camp and used on ??? for my THF AF.
# Oct 31 2006 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
well talking about 2 Mage's Lv 75 and the Bomb was hitting us at 400+ per hit with only Blink and Stoneskin. you have to admit that you wouldn't do it with the setup I we did it as try it Find out for yourself BLM and SMN letting garuda fight the bomb lol every 5-8 Hits you need to cast Garuda
easier than i thought
# Oct 30 2006 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
easy fight, just don't do it at low levels to avoid agroing everything XD
me (THF67)
Djini (THF75)
Dianeta (WHM69)
we did it just fine, easy and smoth none got hurt except once Djini missed casting Ichi on Ni. no agro at 67 at all from undead was good enough :3
# Oct 27 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
LOL stop talking about the EASY fight and try to correct that guide.

What about the ??? order?
# Oct 27 2006 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
21 posts
The explanation sucks. It doesn't even say you have to use a PICKAXE on each ceiling hole. Well you do, so make sure you bring some pickaxes to the place.

The battle description is also quite poor. But alright with it.
# Nov 17 2007 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
118 posts
You do not need a pickaxe for each ceiling hole. You only need to examine them in the right order before you go to the NM's ???

The only spot you need the pickaxe is for the last ??? in la thiene plataue
# Nov 11 2006 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
Only pickaxe i used was in la theine plateau. idk maybe i got lucky??
dam sucks for a lot of you...
# Oct 27 2006 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
This fight was nothing like any of you described it, me and a thf buddy both of us lvl 58 hired a whm/blm75 and a rdm/blm/75 and we pawned the it just fine, we kept shadows up and traded hate with SA +ws got our key item and broke out, clearing the room was harder then the nm fight itself.
Close to Death O.O
# Oct 25 2006 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
Friend and I Duo'ed this. ( Me BLM75/RDM37 ) ( Friend SMN75/WHM37 ) I knew the power of this NM from the Begining because I did this one before but I had ppl help me with it ok here is the Game plan

SMN Cased Garuda before he popped it
I was Standing by with Stun on pop when I stunned it when it was Red So it was not a Stun on Pull Garuda Attacked it before I got the Stun Off
After Garuda Died Guess who the Bomb Came after O.O Yep me if that was what you was guess because of the Stun I had Stoneskin up and I don't know if Phalanx Wore off or not but I got hit with 200+ then a 400+ 200 was from the Stoneskin asorbed most of the first attack I was down to 50 HP or less my Friend Casted Garuda again and did Predator Claws and Garuda got hate again
we did this for about until it was 15% left then I started to nuke @10% he I started to cast Bind because Garuda was going to die and he would come after me when I started to Cast Bind he Started to Self-Destruct Anyway I was like Oh &^&^ I didn't get the item but there it was we got the item when he Self-Destruct

I Would not Recommend trying this out too Harsh
No more tears.
# Sep 22 2006 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
3,474 posts
Alexlitvin wrote:
this thing is stronger DMG per hit than GODS, i know because Seiyru= 290+ a hit this thing just did 600+ to my 75thf/nin....needless to say, I will no longer use this weak site.

No, you CANNOT solo this fight! It's IMPOSSIBLE!

Well... impossible if you're not very good. :P


There are a lot of things that are soloable that are a lot harder than this guy. Sure, he hits hard, but you're a THF. Evade! His accuracy is not stellar and his HP isn't that crazy. Bloody bolts don't retrieve amazing amounts of HP per hit, but they definitely work. If you can evade and keep shadows up, you're fine. I miss-pulled him at first and he saw me and exploded immediately, but that was weaker than his normal hits. The second try I popped him, hid, SATA Shark Bite on him and he never tried to Self Destruct. I had sleep bolts on macro in case he tried, but there was never a need to sleep him. He only hit me three times during the fight and I won pretty easily.

Don't get me wrong, I could see where this guy could give a PLD or a 60-ish party problems, but there's no reason why a 75 THF with halfway decent skill couldn't solo this.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2006 at 1:45am EDT by Negativepositiv
bad guide
# Jun 25 2006 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
the NPC Yatniel is supposed to be in jeuno jewelry shop.. he is NOT i've checked every shop in every part of jeuno and he's not there
bad guide
# Jul 03 2006 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
599 posts
He's right outside the jewelry shop, next to your stairs.

/targetnpc Yatniel
I cam I saw I conquerd
# Jun 18 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
26 posts
Took this bad boy as a 74 Thf. Lazy on my part trying to get my af but got it either way.

But the guy did hit me for 643 points of damage and boy did it hurt. Anyway's only help I had was a 74 blm. Slept it a few times with sleep bolts to get sata off and the rest is history.
I cam I saw I conquerd
# Jun 18 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Mon Jun 19 03:07:07 2006
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