Carbuncle Debacle - SMN AF3  

Submitted by:Jeryhn
Start Area: Windurst Walls
Start NPC:Ripapa (I - 9)
Prerequisites:Class Reunion - SMN AF2
The Puppet Master - SMN AF1
Related Areas:Cloister of Gales
Cloister of Storms
The Boyahda Tree
Related Mobs:Koru-Moru (E - 7)
Lightning Gremlin
Ripapa (I - 9)
Thunder Gremlin
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
(Average from 11 ratings)
Items Required:Lightning Pendulum
Title Obtained:Paragon of Summoner Excellence
Items Granted:Evoker's Horn
This Quest is Repeatable
This Quest requires Zilart
Last Updated: Wed Dec 12 00:22:30 2007

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Carbuncle needs your help. The Mana Orb held by the energy thief has grown so powerful it is threatening to enslave all the Carbuncles in the world. You must act now to save them!


In order to receive this quest you must have completed the SMN AF1 quest for the Kukulcan's Staff and AF2 for the Evoker's Spats.

Head to the House of the Hero in Windurst Walls and hear Carbuncle's cry for help.

Talk to Koru-Moru.

Head to Mhaura and speak to Ripapa to get the Lightning Pendulum. Next, head to The Boyahda Tree and walk to the Cloister of Storms. Trade the Lightning Pendulum to the Lightning Photocrystal and enter the battlefield.

Defeat the two weapons, Lightning Gremlin and Thunder Gremlin. Afterwards, go back and speak to Koru-Moru.

Next head to Rabao and talk to Agado-Pugado. He will send you to the Cloister of Gales where you will fight Ogmios. Bring echo drops for the fight.

Quest Series

This quest is part of the summoner artifact gear quest series. The complete series includes:

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# Feb 23 2006 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Duo'd with 75SMN 72BLM(needed the fight) all you need for the Gremlins is a 75SMN, kill the mage weapon first, takes like 1 Eclipse Bite and a little melee from Fenrir, then take out the melee weapon. i could've killed this when the BLM was in the CS lol

As for the Manticore, wasn't that much harder, for a 75SMN just carby kite it a few casts then send fenrir after it at about 3/4 life or less.

Edited, Thu Feb 23 18:18:37 2006
Easy Peasy
# Jan 05 2006 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
Did this w/ a 58 SMN and a 65 SMN. Yes Duo'd it.


Did pretty usual buffs, Earthen Ward, Aeriel Armor, Medalink(SMN 65) reraised, pro and shell'd, and we went in.
These bad boys link on 2nd attack. We did not know this, so regretfully we tried to carby pull one back. we ended up both kiting them for awhile(him with fenrir for eclipse bite, and me with titan because of obvious reasons.) until I couldn't recast Titan so, I died. Medalink finished the first weapon bith a third eclipse bite, and began for the next one with low MP, hardly any buffs, and a half eaten fenrir. Fortunatly enough, Medalink died at the entrance of the BC, so he reraised, and solo'd the last gremlin. Part one complete! hazaa!


Alot easier then the gremlins. We both summoned fenrir, he for Eclipse Bite, while I did lunar cry, and switching to various avatars for debuffing. Took 28/30 minutes, so careful what you do with this guy. Deadly Hold always oneshotted out avatars, but I've seen people survive it.

The only things you really have to take into account are his speed(Use tailwhip with leviathan to gravity his ******* His Deadly Hold move(which I think goes through Shadows),he has A LOT of HP, and he has some nasty -GA moves. His silencga has a big area of cast, so stay far away, or have echo drops. Dispelga is a rough too, but it never hit me, and our avatar's only had Ecliptic Howl's ACC and EVA buffs on.

Edited, Thu Jan 5 02:18:43 2006
problems activating
# Jan 01 2006 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
31 posts
Have to talk to Koru moru after carby's Crying CS in order to get lightning pendant from ripapa
Not too hard
# Jan 01 2006 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
Well I just finished this today, thought I'd share my experience:

First set of NMs, the 2 Weapons. Duoed with a 75NIN and myself on 75 RDM, NIN tanked Lightning Gremlin (non caster), while I grav-kited Thunder Gremlin (RDM type). Once L. Gremlin was dead we took down T. Gremin pretty fast.

As for the Manticore, he was pretty simple too, again duoed. Brought along echo drops, I stood out of range and debuffed, recasted buffs on the nin when dispelga hit him, and cured when stuff went thru shadows. Pretty clean fight, with nin alone doing dmg took about 8 minutes.

Edited, Sun Jan 1 01:27:34 2006
My experience
# Nov 15 2005 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
396 posts
Party. I'm not positive on all the lvls. its safe to say we were all 60+.

Brd60/30whm (me)
Smn60/whm30 (The smn in need)

The Gremlins.

You cannot sleep these. Don't try. That was our origonal plan. Even resisted ES sleep. I died first by the one who I was attempting to sleep, then the smn died, not sure how. The rest of them ran after a bit of hesitation. The PLD and the Blm made it out alive. The Gremlin's Aoe was a pain.

Second time we actually had a resonable strategy after some pep talk. Stick the avatar on one, pld takes the other. The avatar got torn up. We were experiencing a repeat here, but then someone killed off one of them somehow (I believe it was the blm). So we took on the second one. The rng and, I think the smn, died. someone raised the smn. I cast minuet, then realized ballad would help more. We won, but it was close.


We did this first try. Went up after buffing. It cast dispelga, Silencega, some line targetting fire breath, and a twister attack. First thing it did was dispelga. It spammed silencega ever minute. This is a shinning moment for all bards... resist silence actually kicked in the first 3 times he cast silencega. so i took advantage and silena'd who i could. lol, the poor rdm was silenced the whole fight though. it was looking scarce, but all the mages decided to back off out of range or silencega, and we just cured the PLD. Blm did his nuking. after getting into this stable position. we ended up getting leverage and won.

Two tough fights. Fun 2-3 hours. Despite most of us dying like 3 times, it was a blast.
duo win
# Aug 30 2005 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
Duo with 75 smn and me on 74 PLD, first fight was a breaze, second silencega was nasty, huge aeo, but still won with 10 hp left LOL (was silenced, smn was tellin me to 2hr but i wouldnt as it was almost dead), smn had to 2 hr for free mp and avator cost.
OH and I let fenir tank it :), WOOT WOOT go purple doggy

Edited, Wed Aug 31 00:40:39 2005
Duo AF fight
# Aug 13 2005 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
just did this first part with the 2 weapons with me and my brd friend. But I'm pretty sure a smn would have worked just as well. Or a bst. Or readlly actually any job. Most of the work goes into 2 categories.
First: I went as 75rdm/nin. Gear may have helped a bit, but honestly, these things are really easy to fight. Slow, Paralyze, Silence, Blind, then Stoneskin Phalanx, Haste and Refresh. Of the 2 gremlins, the Lightning Gremlin is by far the longer kill, so I bio II'd it to draw hate, then (and this is why almost any job works) I simply cast gravity on the thunder Gremlin while the brd cast Foe Requiem VI to take hate, and just kited it back and forth. I think I got hit with maybe one smite ofrage for 240, but aside from that I went mostly undamaged. Threw in a few Stone IIIs when it got low, because after 3 gravities, it gets hard for the other to keep hate.

Second Crucial thing. Make sure the person doing the kiting can actually stay alive. I'm assuming this is a given. Brd/whm worked great, because of ballads and self curing. Summoner would work with Carby Kiting.

Anyways, once the first weapon goes down, the second is a joke. Killed first, did a quick convert, healed the bard to take hate, and then used a Savage blade which took about a tenth of its life. The rest was simple. Silence it or not, it'll hit you with spells but stoneskin absorbed most. Short second fight, easy win.
{Too Weak}
# Jun 10 2005 at 1:54 AM Rating: Decent
lol, just did this with BLM75 (me) WHM75 and THF72

first fight I kited one weapon while THF killed other... pretty easy.. 4 minutes...

2nd fiht... THF died form Deadly Hold when shadows dropped, and I had to kite this damn thing then... WHM R3 THF then continure on... 19 minutes... lol
# May 24 2005 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
Sorry about the empty post there... Just did this with: 75 rng/nin, 71 whm , 67 rng, 58 rdm was very fun fight ...
fun if gimped
# May 24 2005 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
my experience
# Apr 21 2005 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
111 posts
Just did this, wasn't that bad..!

For the first battle (Cloister of Stroms) I had:
68 Drg
65 blm
59 smn (me)

The battle went really smoothly no one was close to dieing..

The 2nd battle (Cloister of Gales): I had:
68 Drg
65 blm
59 smn (me)
68 sam

This battle was little more annoying, since he spams Silencega... alot! I only used 3 echo drops, but his silencega didn't always hit me... The battle wasn't to bad... He can do some damage if Utsusemi wasn't up... But battle wasn't that bad. But make sure you have echooo drops!!

After we fought Ogimos we fought Garuda with teh same party minus the dragoon, and took her down pretty easy too :P
RE: my experience
# May 02 2005 at 3:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Just did this for a lvl 59smn. I am a 75/37 nin/war... this thing was too easy (least the manticore was). It rarely took any shadows and missed about 90% of the time. The breath was the only thing that did any damage at all and one stack of echo drops each was enough for both of us. any nin 75 can take this out with ease as long as the smn heals them when they get hit with breath.
# Apr 19 2005 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
i heard this ones hard and i should wait til lvl 70
# Feb 05 2005 at 4:55 AM Rating: Decent
38 posts
Can this be solo'd by a 75 rdm?
RE: Solo?
# Apr 13 2005 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
279 posts
My friend duo'd hers as 75rdm, with another 75rdm, and they still hardly won even after using their 2h.
RE: Solo?
# Nov 24 2005 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
Anyways... I don't see how 2hr can help o_O
RE: Solo?
# Dec 17 2005 at 3:11 AM Rating: Decent
687 posts
chainspell + convert + stuff :O?
# Nov 04 2004 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
192 posts
one thing wrong with this is you DONT need to talk to Koru-moru.just go to the house of the hero and after you hear carbuncles cry for hel,head to Mhaura.follow the rest as written above.
RE: Update.
# Jun 25 2006 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
I'm so glad I read this because I was on the verge of slapping Ripapa silly myself. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get the pendulum. Thanks for the info as to why I couldn't. Guess I'll be heading myself back to windy now. >.<
RE: Update.
# Oct 28 2005 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
157 posts
Above quest-description wrote:

Head to the House of the Hero in Windurst Walls and hear Carbuncle's cry for help.

Head to Mhaura and speak to Ripapa to get the Lightning Pendulum.

Yes, yes you DO!!! need to talk to Koru-Moru. I'm standing in front of Ripapa slapping him incessantly, and myself, for talking about Ramuh, when I was hoping to get the pendulum.

/sigh Back to Windy, and back here again... >.<

Edited, Fri Oct 28 17:25:08 2005
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 05 2005 at 10:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yep, you're wrong lol if u don't talk to kuro u don't get the item in muhara
RE: Update.
# Jul 26 2005 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
You're wrong, you do need to talk to Koru-Moru.
SMN rock :)
# Sep 23 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
981 posts
I duo'ed this fight with another SMN, she was 62, I was 69, and we won pretty flawlessly. If you have a coordinated party 60+ it's not too tough, we basically just beat him with IV magic and Eclipse Bite, then used Carbuncle to finish him off near the end.
# Jun 05 2004 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
81 posts
we did all this with:
60drk/war(29war, GIMP!)

Firstly first, try House of the Hero in windurst, can't remember if you have to to talk to it or not. Secondly second, Koru-Moru as usual. After that Ripapa in Mhaura for the scene and pendulum. Then off to the cloister. Once there, make sure to remind your party to not enter until they have the BC status...very important....the two drks ended up staring at Ramuh Prime instead of the right ones >.> After you enter, two weapon NMs are there, Thunder Gremlin and Lightning Gremlin....name would imply to barthundera. I'm off the impression they can't be slept >.> I tried, granted I'm low-ish for the fight. The blm did elemental seal sleep II, sleepga II, etc etc...nothing. SO plan on tanking both. They weren't hard, seemed to have some endurance tho~ >.>. After that, go back to Koru-Moru or whoever the principal is in windurst.

After that, Agadu-puagado or whatever in Rabao. Here, tell your melee to bring sneak and invis pots. Because, to our pld, the mobs on the way were Very Tough(73pld remember, and at least the Greater Manticores were.) It's a PAIN to sneak/invis an alliance past all that, even with 1mage-1melee pairs setup. Near the end, there's Greater Manticores very tightly nit together, and Sand Cockatrices in between, all sight aggro. Don't need sneak for that part at least, only the Raptors aggro by sound. Once inside, do what you do every time, and everyone go in. Cutscene, tnen you fight a Manticore, I think his name was Ogmlos or something...I only barely remember due to the OMG jokes. Here your mages should stay far back, he uses a Silence AOE that has a huge range. You should be just inside cast range.....much closer and you get hit. Silena potions would be helful precaution. All in all, with that setup, getting to them was much harder than fighting them. When you're through, go back to Koru-Moru and you be done mon. Hope this helps XD

Oh, just to say, you must accept the quests as SMN, but you can do the BCs as any job, I did them as BRD. I accepted them all as SMN, finished them all as BRD.

Two full sets of AF done = too much time on hands ._.

Edited, Sat Jun 5 23:57:42 2004
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# Oct 03 2005 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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Two full sets of AF done = too much time on hands ._.

Once I get my Evoker's Horn, I'll have 4 complete sets of AF, and on damn near complete set of RDM AF2.

Talk about a time sink!

I <3 my kitty though^^
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# Apr 12 2005 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I have 5 full sets of AF now. :) Thanks, this post was very helpful.^^
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# Sep 18 2004 at 8:14 PM Rating: Good
82 posts
im just wondering wut possesed u to do a smn af quest when none of u were smns?
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# Nov 23 2004 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
635 posts
You don't have to BE SMN while you're doin' it... so long as you have SMN job and have started the quest to get the AF piece you can use any job in your ******* to complete the fights.

Most likely some of the people in that alliance were using higher lvl jobs to get the piece for their lower lvl SMN.

Edited, Tue Nov 23 03:10:58 2004
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# Jun 10 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Default
52 posts
Just an FYI - I did both fights with 6 people - there is NO need for an alliance if you have competant members in their 60s.
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# Nov 23 2004 at 3:12 AM Rating: Good
635 posts
True there's no need for an alliance... but it IS darned fun to tear the poor buggers apart with overwhelming brute force >:-P
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# Jun 21 2005 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
384 posts
It's definite that you can Alliance this, correct?

I'm organizing a LS event and thot this would be fun (and beneficial, since it's the only AF piece I'm missing XD)
Rest of the quest..
# May 19 2004 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't done this yet, but I do know enough to fill in some of the missing pieces here.

At the protocrystal in the Cloister of Storms, you will fight two NM weapons. Again, not sure of their difficulty, but I hear a PT of lvl 60s can take it down, with a tank and WHM occupying one, and the rest taking care of the other first.

After this, I believe you are given a Wind Pendulum - if not from a cutscene here, then probably from the taru in Rabao. Proceed to the Coister of Gales, where you must fight an NM Manticore. He has an AoE dispel and silence, so make sure the mages bring echo drops. Supposedly, he does not hit very hard, but has loads of hp.

Hope this helps, and please post if you know any more details ^o^
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