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True Will - NIN AF3  

Realm:Outlands
Start Area: Norg
Start NPC:Ryoma (H - 8)
Type:Artifact
Prerequisites:20 In Pirate Years - NIN AF1
Related Areas:Kuftal Tunnel
Rabao
Yhoator Jungle
Related Mobs:Kappa Akuso
Kappa Biwa
Kappa Bonze
Leodarion
Mission:5
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
Rating
*****
(Average from 4 ratings)
Items Required:Kuftal Coffer Key
Title Obtained:Paragon of Ninja Excellence
Items Granted:Ninja Chainmail
This Quest is Repeatable
This Quest requires Zilart
Last Updated: Wed Feb 23 16:05:16 2005

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Summary

The Sahagin have stolen Mitsunari's treasure and hid it somewhere in the jungle on Elshimo Island. It is your job to find it.

Walkthrough

Note: To begin this quest, you must first complete 20 in Pirate Years - NIN AF1 and I'll Take The Big Box - NIN AF2.

Head to H-8 in Norg and talk to Ryoma.

Next, head to Yhoator Jungle. Examine the ??? at I-7, and three NM Sahagin will spawn: Kappa Akuso, Kappa Biwa and Kappa Bonze. Kill them and examine ??? again to get a key item, Old trick box.

Take the box to Ryoma and he then sends you to Rabao to talk with Leodarion. He sends you to Kuftal Tunnel to find and open a coffer.

Head to Kuftal Tunnel and find a Kuftal coffer key. The keys drop from Cave Worms, Deinonychuses, Haunts, Recluse Spiders, Robber Crabs, Sand Lizards and Scavenger Crabs, which are fished.

Next, find a treasure coffer. The coffers spawn on the first map (with the zone to Western Altepa Desert) at H-7 and H-6, and on the larger second map at K-11, G-9, H-9, J-7, J-8, I-4, F-6 and D-9.

Open the coffer and you will get a key item Large Treasure Chest. Bring it back to Leodarion and he will give you the Ninja Chainmail.

Quest Series

This quest is part of the ninja artifact gear quest series. The full quest series includes:

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Just soloed Biwa..
# Dec 27 2005 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
The mob you have to kill is Kappa Biwa, well, atleast thats the easiest. Just finished soloing it.. Was a harsh fight lasted 10-15 mins, Subbed RDM and if I didn't I would've died, If you don't fight him at night time w/o good evasion gear you're toast (I'm an Enmity NIN so it kind of hurt when I lost shadows). Whenever you lose shadows you have to put them up quick because if it does Requiem V or Elegy on you you have to kite him around for a while until they wear off, NIN boots help a lot with this. He hits VERY hard 120 damage a normal strike and a 210 crit to a Elvaan 58NIN/29RDM. You MUST keep him Blinded, Paralyzed, and Slow'd at ALL times. I cannot stress this enough people, I didn't see his Slow wear off for a second and he started casting Victory March and he was attacking like a monk. You have to keep Paralyze on him so he can't cast stuff like Minne/March/Minuet, and Slow on him so he hits slow, slow enough to count your Utsusemi. I read a lot of the things here people said, and I thank you all. Rate ups for you ^^b. Anyway, yeah, I soloed Kappa Biwa (Biwas the BRD everyone) with 89/1038 HP and 3/99 MP left.
^^
# Dec 23 2005 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
I just did this on my War solo. I sneak popped, moved back, voked the Bard, the 2 others didnt link, killed him slowly till the other 2 depop, got the key item.

Edited, Fri Dec 23 16:48:54 2005
Another way???
# Dec 05 2005 at 8:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok.... I can now with full confidence comment on the NIN Chainmail 3 NM's problem.

Sneak is ESSENTIAL when you spawn them, these 3 agro with speed of the Puma!!

I tried 14 times to pull the BRD on his own, god knows why but NO spells let me pull it on its own every single time, I sat there and waited for the other two to move around and they stood there and did not move an INCH. Every single time without fail they just happily sat in their little trio on the ledge probably laughing at me.

Unless you have a carby pull this is what I did and it worked first time (By accident as you will see but totally do'able)

You need a Brave/Stupid/Kind fellow adventurer to help you on this. Ideally with Stoneskin or Shadows/blink cos that MNK NM HURTS!!!

Have your ambushing pty sitting down the tunnel leading up to the ??? point, where the Crawlers are (they didnt agro me at L55), I had a RDM L75 Waiting there for me (Thank you Zeromage).

Now have your Decoy/Cannon fodder waiting just round the corner out of agro range of the NM's and then sneak spawn them, get your Brave sole with stoneskin/blink to then run full (flee would be good!!) pelt past the 3 NM's to the zone on the opposite side of the ??? clearing, Den Of Rancor, when he/she runs past the 3NM's WILL agro them.

At this point you Grab the BRD with a NIN spell, the WHM and MNK run off to the zone following your screaming friend and you take the BRD away from his buddies down the tunnel almost out the other side, commence beating and then go get ya box. I did this with just me and the RDM in the ambush pty and I was L55..........
May I also take this oppertunity to say sorry to the pty that ran past me when I spawned the NM's, it was TOTALLY by accident however you have given rise to an alternative solution to this AF battle.

I hope this helps people and I have 3 high NIN friends on Fenrir all of who said its a good plan and much less hassle..... unless your the runner. lol. But dont panic they wont die, I wasnt aware of the Den Of Ranc zone and took all 3 to Ifrits cauldron!!!! If I can make that run with shadows down Den of Rancor will be easy!!

Edited, Thu Dec 8 09:08:13 2005
Sneak...
# Nov 18 2005 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Went with a Lv75 DRK, Lv75 MNK (who needed his af) and Lv70 BRD (me). Sneaked everyone up, spawned the NM's. Just as they spawned, DRK's sneak goes down, and gets all 3 on him. He goes down just as Horde Lullaby Lands. Had 66+39 CHR and 2 of the fish resisted 4 times, only the WHM would sleep. So MNK was tanking both pretty much. Killed one fish, I got sileinced and started heading for zone, kiting one. See MNK drop dead, i got to zone with 43 hp left, the NM missed me 3 times as I zoned, but i made it. Went back gave the MNK and DRK raise. As the MNK was resting, a gob agrod. I had about 30mp and 300 hp at this time. Right before the gob died, 3 more linked and killed me x.x so yea we all wipped. WHM came along and gave Raise II. Let ya know hoe round 2 goes.

Round 2
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thes things do too *#@!# link >< MNK spawned them, and we waited, they didnt agro, we were standing way back, mnk did chi blast on one, all 3 on us, all wipped this time, and a few people who were leveling thier NPC's too

Edited, Fri Nov 18 12:06:53 2005
No Links
# Nov 16 2005 at 4:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Just to clear up any questions on how do people solo it, it's because they don't link like normal Sahagins do. I was pretty confused on how people went about this until i tried this out myself with a couple of friends. So i hope this clears up some issues from previous posts.

Just like they've said sneak up and spawn no aggro, so if you're having people help and they aren't sneaked, make sure thy're somewhere like near the Den of Rancor entrance. All 3 will pop up ontop of a rock across from the ???.

You will be able to pull the cloest one (BRD) if you're out of aggro range with anything: ranged, ninjitsu, magic - and the others do not link. I observed this while sneaked and my friend sent carby after the BRD one, the others didn't all gang up on carby. And as they say, wait for others to despawn before finishing the one you're fighting ^^

Oh and on a side note, i remember helping with this quest some other time ago, i did sleepaga II just as a test, i do remember one of them sleeping, me and my friend were gussing the WHM one can be slept, dunno if they might've changed it but i did actually sleep one of them. Hope this info is helpful to those worried on how to spawn/pull ^^
RE: No Links
# Jan 06 2006 at 2:04 AM Rating: Decent
How does carb pulling mean they don't link? Nothing links on carbuncle, and just because they didn't attack the rabbit doesn't mean you can go up and pop em with an arrow and hope the others don't come. That much is obvious by the subsequent posts from people who didn't read closely enough to what you mean by "no links."

Edited, Fri Jan 6 01:06:59 2006
RE: No Links
# Jan 13 2006 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
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How does carb pulling mean they don't link? Nothing links on carbuncle, and just because they didn't attack the rabbit doesn't mean you can go up and pop em with an arrow and hope the others don't come.


Uhhh things can link on carby, for example Crawlers in the Crawlers' Nest, have carby assault one and another crawlers joins the fight by bashin carby 0 then when carby is defeated the one how Assaulted carby will have the hate resulting in the enemy coming to them yet leaving the ones that did link behind.

In this case, Sahagins that aggro by sound like Crawlers, would've gained up on him yet didn't. My WHM/SMN friend pulled it safely with sneak on and Assaulted with carby since no Throwing or Ranged items on us at the moment. The other people who said they'd sneak/spawned used ranged as well. This is possible at a safe distance. These NM fish don't link they AGGRO, so keep sneak up ^^b
you can die and still get the item
# Nov 07 2005 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this previously, as I'm far too impatient to read this entire thread, but I wanted to let everybody know that you can die and still get the item for this, even if you are still dead when the thing gets killed.

I, a 63RNG, and Lyx, a 75BLM/RDM, helped our ninja friend, Meeyotch, who was a 54NIN at the time, get this. Meeyotch says, "Don't worry, I've tried this three times solo and I've been successful at only pulling the one every time so all we have to do is kill the one."

Well, of course, our first attempt he brought all three. It wasn't long before we discovered that we couldn't sleep them (maybe a 75RDM could but a 75 Mithra BLM/RDM couldn't). So, Meeyotch dies, then shortly after that I die from pulling hate. Lyx zones into Ifrit's Cauldron. They despawn. Lyx warps back, changes to WHM, comes and gives us both Raise II. So, after he gets back we try again.

This time I told Meeyotch, "If you end up pulling more than one, just 2-hr and die. Please don't bring them to us." So, of course, he pulls all three and a cat popped and added, so he 2-hr and dies. Lyx tractors him to the little tunnel where we are. The sahagin stopped following him. Lyx goes just barely out of the tunnel to see if they are still out there and from like a mile away, the WHM fish aggros Lyx!

So, I'm thinking, this won't be hard for the two of us to kill...it's only one. Hehe well this is one badass WHM fish. He totally used Benediction on himself which totally sucked. Lyx and I are fighting this thing, the whole time Meeyotch is lying down in the tunnel dead. I got hate from Sidewinder so I had to immediately run and train some gobs with me to Ifrit's Cauldron. I rest there and recoup for a while, then come back. Lyx is still fighting/kiting this thing which is eating thru his Stoneskin in like seconds. The other fish had despawned.

This fight continues for quite a while. I end up just meleeing it and shooting it with arrows but never being able to use any major damage attacks for fear of getting hate and dying. Eventually, after like probably more than five full minutes, we kill it.

There is a BST watching this whole thing while invis...Lyx gave him a pie so he would have enough MP to raise and he raises Meeyotch. With his 2-hr gone, I said, well, we can try again I guess but I have to go do something first.

I leave the keyboard and come back like 5 minutes later. I find myself having been warped home by Lyx. "What happened?" I ask. Turns out just for the hell of it, after Meeyotch got raised and had rested through his sickness, he decided to check the ???, and low and behold - he got the item!

So, the moral of the story is, you can die and be dead during and after the battle for a long time and still be able to get the item, so NEVER just assume you didn't get it and leave without checking the ??? first.

The End.

Edited, Mon Nov 7 17:02:42 2005
Soloable
# Nov 02 2005 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Just soloed as 57Nin/28War. First try (day) had to zone with 72 HP left. Second try (night) killed Kappa Biwa with around 400 HP left (out of 1077 to start).

Keys: Pull Kappa Biwa carefully and time your Ichi cast; you will have to use it. Only times he hit me was with the Hydro Ball (or Hydro Shot, can't remember which).

Good luck!

Edit: Also - first try was with Sole, second was with Squid. I recommend Squid.

Edited, Wed Nov 2 15:21:07 2005
too easy
# Oct 26 2005 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Solo-ed this as 58 nin/whm and it was really easy.

Here's my strategy:

As soon as I got there, I dismount from Chocobo and cast Protect II and Shell, use sole-sushi, rest til full mp (my mp was only 119).
After mp full, sneak up, touch the ??? and 3 sahagins will pop.
I pulled kawa-biwa (BRD) to den of rancor entrance.
Engaged, used Kurayami: Ni, Hojo: Ni, Jubaku:Ichi on the mob and keep utsusemi up all the time while whacking the fish.

I took about 10-15 mins to kill it and came out with still full hp and 107 mp (12 mp used for sneak). The mob was unable to hit me at all.

After it died, I went back to the ??? and got the old trick box.

It's nice to be able to solo AF :P

Edited, Wed Oct 26 09:38:20 2005
odd
# Oct 26 2005 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
Me 50 nin/smn, and a friend 75 mnk/whm did this earlier today was really easy, accidently pulled the whm one first though then the brd but wasnt hard at all heh personally the fight was a joke but was fun XD.
NIN AF reqs
# Oct 23 2005 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
Can you do all of the NIN AF qest once your lv50? Provided you have the man power and what now because all these quest say min lv50.. all except the katana one.
<too weak>
# Oct 18 2005 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
just beat this mob today as a 64 thf/nin witha rdm/smn 66 basicly both need to sneak up and then pop the nms then have carby pull the bard one to the rancor zone **** before i forget have stoneskin blink utsu all those up before hand
from there you want to paralyze blind silence then slow him thfs high evasion already makes it hard for it to kill thf about halfway through fight chekc make sure the others have despawned if not zone it usually takes about 2-3 mins for despawn once confirmed despawn slaughter the annoying bugger and your all set we netted 32 exp for the win~ good luck guys

Edited, Tue Oct 18 19:45:29 2005
My EXP.
# Oct 18 2005 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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We did the mission the other day, and after dying a few times do to errors on other members part we were unable to beat this, taking the head on approach. This seemed to be the best strat:

BST pulls Kappa Bonze(WHM) with Carrie and him and Carrie start to melee, as RDM/NIN(me) kites the Kappa Akuso(MNK) and Kappa Biwa(BRD) around. WHM will die pretty fast because Carrie hits for 100-150 per hit, and it always seems they die faster after Beni goes off. I kited them around with only Diaga as a hate grabber, this should be done before the BST gets hate or else his cures will bring the mobs back to him, Gravity on MNK and run like hell. When Bonze(WHM) is dead BST sics his pet on Biwa(BRD) and easily pulls the hate back to himself, after a short battle Biwa(BRD) is dead and Akuso(MNK) is next, bring him back over to the BST, Spirits Within, RDM/NIN tank as much as possible, BST pet takes hate and by that time Hundred Fist is up and owning, at this point you pray your Utsusemi holds up a little while and your stoneskin doesnt wear, BST gets a new pet on him and soon the battle is over.

The key to this strat is to have people who are 72+ so you get no aggro in the area, the NIN meleed the first battle and a cat popped and aggroed, leading the BST/WHM to cure him, giving him hate which caused the BST to die and then I was shortly after.It's also smart to clear the general area, this is for building of TP and also so you don't catch unnessicary mobs in you intial-aga spell for kiting. If you decided to kill them all, I suggest the WHM first, he can silence, and he has Benidiction, he also cures his comrades, I suggest you kick his face in before he becomes a hassle. The BRD is easily the second choice, he's a easy kill/tp builder because he poses little threat on his own, however he can buff his comrades and make them troublesome if he is kept too close. The MNK should be saved for last as he will need the most concentration, three people steadily attacking (BST, PET, RDM) him widdles down his HP pretty fast, and with TP saved from clearing the area as well as kiting, you can Spirits Within him for some nice damage. His Hundred Fist is was makes him a hassle as he'll easily own a BST (whos stoneskin is not too strong) or his PET, I have little chance against him straight up myself; My shadows wear too fast against it and my stoneskin shortly after, thankfully phalanx keeps it real.

If all else fails just pull the BRD and let the others depop while he swings at you, then have the NIN check the ???.
whoooped my arse!!
# Oct 12 2005 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
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well..definitly go with the carby pull if you are solo'n.. even if you have other high lvl's i would still recommend it..i died 6 times fighting this thing...fortunately for me R3's were available everytime.


Brd is easy, whm is just annoying, and the mnk sucks!!!!!
Let the others despawn before you kill the last.
# Sep 13 2005 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
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My boyfriend and I just tried to do this quest. We've killed the BRD three times, waited for the others to despawn and clicked the ??? but no item.

This happened for me too. I soloed the BRD easily as 75MNK/NIN, it died pretty quick... too quick I think.

I'm pretty sure the others need to despawn first before you kill the one you pull. This way the 'event' ends with you killing a mob (success) rather than a mob despawning (failure).
RE: Let the others despawn before you kill the last.
# Oct 16 2005 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm pretty sure the others need to despawn first before you kill the one you pull.


Correct.

Edited, Tue Oct 18 12:29:51 2005
Just Did It
# Sep 08 2005 at 1:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I just did this fight today; it wasn't HORRIBLE, but not easy. I was a 55 ninja, and had a full party of people my level come and fight with me. It probably would have been easier if the WHM didn't come along with the BRD when we carby pulled; his benediction didn't help either. In the end, we kicked their asses, and I got the box, and we got married and rode off into the sunet.
Easy...
# Aug 16 2005 at 5:10 PM Rating: Default
I just solod all 3 of these fighst today as my BLM/RDM.
You don't have to kill all 3 of these, you just have to NOT kill the one until the other 2 despawn.. so, sneak up, touch ??? pull one, and hold it until the other despawn, THEN kill so it is the LAST one alive... then touch the ??? again for your key item...
Correction
# Aug 14 2005 at 8:09 AM Rating: Default
Correction: Must be lv51+ to obtain the quest.

Edited, Sun Aug 14 09:11:17 2005
Argh
# Aug 02 2005 at 6:52 PM Rating: Decent
My boyfriend and I just tried to do this quest. We've killed the BRD three times, waited for the others to despawn and clicked the ??? but no item. Any idea what we might be doing wrong? We tried the MNK but his Hundred Fists nearly killed both of us and in the end I had to zone to the Den. We tried manually despawning the other two, and then checking the ??? but still nothing. Do we have to kill all three?
death
# Jul 15 2005 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
I just did this 7/15 ....

3 people
75 rng ME
75 pld
75 whm

lol no sneak just pop and fight all at once, went crazy -fun times everyone almost died at least once but no one did, i would say to really fight it, this was min config...

as far as the depop ting, thats a glich for many things, lol rank 9.1 sandy for one... just allot things cant be done that away
blind pulling
# Jul 14 2005 at 2:17 AM Rating: Decent
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i just did this today with 4 people a 66 pld/war, a 71 blm/whm, and a 69blm/7rng. when i tryied to pull i got all 3 of them so i kiteied for a few seconds the mijingakulared them. i got raisesd and the pld pulled the brd but the whm linked. all over it was not too bad but still. i think that the pulling needs to be looked at further and tested. (btw we almost wiped casue of the uber dia the whm has)
solo
# Jun 06 2005 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
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the bard is definatly soloable. i killed him at 57 with 405 hp left. before the fight i got 300 tp from a gob and a courel. as 18:00 came i popped a jack-o-latern silent oil and went after it. used blind to pull and only kept it blind and used the fire, ice, and lightning elemental ninjitsu. it wasn't til about 1/2 way through that the timers on utsusemi failed on me and i popped a pear au lait although it wasn't needed if i didn't use it i would be scared to death at the end since i'd be down to 105 hp haha. now just gotta get a coffer key cuz i threw that one out while exping >.<
My Experience
# May 26 2005 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, heres my experience. Im a 52 NIN getting rdy for lvling to 60 before i gotta lvl my sub :P You can pulled with Kurayami: Ni like tylerz and Syck suggested. No link. Had help from a 74 WHM (Alvila) and 74 RNG
(Ozz) Thank You 2 again ^^ both are very helpful on the Alexander server. but anyways, Ozz got full tp, i pulled Kappa Bonze (whm mob)for anyones info Ozz used his TP then barrage almost took it all the way down then used benediction >.< so we had to take it all the way down again lol well finally killed it went to the ??? and the other mobs despawned clicked the ??? and got the key item. ^^
Smooth fight
# May 02 2005 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Solo'd this as a 61 Ninja. I totally forgot to buy food for regen. I used an icarus wing but that wasn't really needed.

I popped a Silent Oil. Then touched the ???. They all spawned. I threw my Boomarang at the Bard and ran near the the zone to the Den of Rancor with my Ninja Kyahans of course. Anyways, no links and I came out with 750/10?? hp left.
RE: Smooth fight
# May 09 2005 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, to those of you who doubt its still glitched post patch, i beat it yesterday solo 58nin/war.

Took 4 attempts for me though, no deaths, couldnt afford it after i had used mijin gakure for a blood port recently. No links, no aggro running to den of rancor zone on any of the attempts. The 1st try was a massive failure, i had a vile elixer and a vile elixer+1, geez what a waste of gil. I found that the less i had to rely on, the less i messed up. From there on it was trial and error with him. 2nd and 3rd goes were similar, with Foe Requiem taking me down to red hp, and a few utsusemi cancellation mix ups.

But the FOURTH attempt was smooth, had ktna on main instead of sword (for 300tp spirits within), and spammed blade retsu, as well as kep jubaku, kurayami and hojo up. Only had one foe requiem land on me. Was intense, but i finished with half hp and a 74rdm watchin me in the distance, heh, always liked having an audience.
info
# Apr 28 2005 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
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yay i just finish this quest today.

Before all galka Ninja 56 food squid sushi
medecine : 2 au lait + 2 x-potion 12 silent oil

First i go to speak to the guy in Norg then i go in Yhoator Jungle see the ??? near the lac @ I-7.

I use my silent oil had war sub and pop the nm. I try with an arrow to pull Kappa Biwa the brd but they link --> run to Ifrit cauldron zone. night end before they depop.

2 try i use silent oil pop the 3 nm, use Kuryami: Ni on the brd but again they link --> Mijin Gakure

3 try i go change sub in Kazham and put summoner sub lvl 10 :D I wait for night built 300tp eat my au lait (HP regen) and crabi pull the brd, no link, i go down where crawler is (they don't aggro and no gob who can aggro me there) and begin the fight.
I manage to keep shadow on and i non stop debuf him with paralyze, slow and blind. I use Blade: Retsu for the paralyze bonus and cause it's a brd he sing long time song help a lot for Utsumetsi timer :)

I take my 2d au lait and fight take about 20 min, i win and get 250 xp from Kappa Biwa alone ^-^ i go touch the ??? again and get the key item (the 2 other NM have depop during the fight). I go back to Norg speak to Ryoma and goin to Rabao.

After a cs i need to go take kuftal coffer, i go found it after 30 min and go back to Rabao, i get my body AF and title : Paragont of Ninja excellence :)

So yes all this AF is soloable but just come with regen drink and wait for night time for eva +10 keep the NM blinded slowed and paralyzed if yu can he hit for 150+ with slow delay weapon.

All good real Ninja have to solo it i think for the 250xp at least :D
Having a problem...
# Apr 22 2005 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
I've done just as this guide says, I killed the 3 NMs and even made sure it said "Obtained key item: Old Trick Box" and checked key items to make sure its there. Went back to Ryoma and all he says is "Get outta my face..." Any suggestions?
RE: Having a problem...
# May 25 2005 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
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You must be ninja main to get the next CS.
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