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Dropping Like Flies  

Realm:Jeuno
Start Area: Horlais Peak
Start NPC:Shami (H - 8)
Type:BCNM
Max Party:6
Related Mobs:Houndfly
Huntfly
Min Level:30
Max Level:30
Rating
*****
(Average from 4 ratings)
Items Required:Sky Orb
Items Granted:Ashigaru Targe
Beater's Aspis
Emperor Hairpin
Mannequin Body
Mannequin Head
Mercenary Mantle
Onyx
Scroll of Dispel
Scroll of Erase
Scroll: Magic Finale
Singer's Mantle
Varlet's Targe
Wizard's Mantle
Wrestler's Aspis
Wyvern Mantle
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Thu Aug 20 05:58:37 2009

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Battle Notes

In order to enter the battlefield you will need to bring a Sky Orb, which is obtained by trading 30 Beastmen's Seals to Shami at (H-8) in Port Jeuno. When you are ready, trade the Sky Orb to the Burning Circle inside Horlais Peak and choose to enter the battle Dropping Like Flies.

Up to 6 people may enter and you will all receive a level 30 restriction. You have 30 minutes to win. You will fight a total of 9 flies: one Huntfly and 8 Houndflies.

Strategies

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Burn Party?
# Dec 14 2005 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
Ok so how much damage does Shiva's Diamond Dust do?

Cause I'm thinking this
5 BLM/WHM
1 PLD/WAR or THF/WAR

4 BLMs start casting Firaga and tank vokes main fly then uses 2hr.
BLMs cast Firaga for about 150 each (total of between 500-700 damage)
5th BLM uses Ele Seal and Sleep the main fly.
4BLM's start casting Aeroga while 5th starts with Ele Seal + Sleep(different BLM this time)
Repeat again once more with Firaga with all 5 using it this time.
All flies should drop and then pld or thf tanks the last guy while blm's nuke/heal the tank

Food would be Yag Drinks (all 6)
Rolanberry Pies (Blm's)
Sole Sushi (Pld/Thf)
RE: Burn Party?
# Dec 18 2005 at 5:52 AM Rating: Default
no that wont work, ive done this BCNM 4 times only got 3 manaquen heads, i sold em in between runs, but never got the pin, the first time i tried and failed with 3 smns's and a pld/war
3 sumoners didnt listen to me and ***** up, so then i treid with 4 sumon=s that was easy as pie, then trieed with 3 again, 2 diamond dusts each, thats 6 total, just to kill the main fly, its killed all the others with 2 but it took 6 AF's to kill the main fly!
no zzzzzzzz
# Dec 08 2005 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Confirmed, these are impossible to put to sleep with Lullaby. I had 33+26 CHR, all i see is
"The Huntfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"The houndfly resists the spell"
"Irocky was defeated by the Houndfly"

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RE: no zzzzzzzz
# May 28 2006 at 8:41 PM Rating: Default
LOL
the best and safest way there is
# Nov 27 2005 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
Ok this is the best way that I found to do this bcnm. First get one Pld one Blm Two Smn and one whm yes thats right just five ppl go in and have the whm buff then have the pld run in and get all arrgo then once he is in the middle of the mobs he uses two hour and smn use there two hour with shiva and all but one fly will be left. At this time just have your whm focus on keeping your pld healed and have your blm just cast firega it will do 130 to 150 a hit and when he runs out of mp have him use his two hour to finsh it of all in all the whole time it took us was 2 min 25 sec I think I cant remember the time perfectly but I know we hold the record for it and we never droped into the yellow on anyone the whole time and whm still had mp to spare. Ls Code on Phoenix Rules
No Tass I told you already we will die!
# Nov 24 2005 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
Quote:
5x Rng/Nin & a Rdm/?

My suggestion to this BCNM is kinda tricky but I think I have it all worked out... (comment if you think you could find some flaws or if it is good or what not). My plan requires no 2hr's unless you want to do so, and doesn't require death or any thing too expensive that isn't worth the outcome. What you do is you go in with 5 rng/nin's and a rdm/? (i'm going to have a rdm/blm)... First Rdm goes in and tries to silence the main fly (bind blind paralyze slow do whatever to keep it annoyed and keep it enfeebled... gravity should help too), while the ninjas go in at the same time using sleep bolts, sleeping the minions till all of them are slept (this requires some team work). Than when all the flies are slept 3 rng's help the rdm kill the main boss while the other 2 stand on sleep duty (sleeping the little dudes incase they wake up) when the rdm's and rngs finish the main one (shouldn't be too hard with 3 rngs barrage with holy bolts or a gun or something) attack the minions one by one (occasionally change rngs jobs from sleep duty to attacking for barrage). So requirements... Rng = Bloody bolts, Sleep bolts (x depending on job), holy bolts (x depending on job), and maybe two high potions or a pamama au lait or something, + sushi or cheap evasion food like a jack o' lantern. Rdm = either cookies or pies and maybe 2 yag drinks unless you want to rest.

Edited, Wed Nov 23 09:19:25 2005


Now tass, I know u have played rng dunno if u hit sleep bolts or not but heres the problem...
1 RNG trying to keep 1 mob slept in an exp pt between 30 and 40 can only be slept for at most 5 seconds. It is usually just long enough to get off the next sleep bolt.

The thought of 5 RNGs trying to sleep 8 mobs scares me. The thought of 2 rngs trying to keep ALL of them slept makes me think about running for that ??? b4 I even zone in.

I would say your safest bet for this bcnm (if charmable) would be 3Xbst 2Xrng 1Xrdm

3 bsts can contain 6 damselflys, that leaves 1 each for the RNGs and 1 for the rdm to kite (preferably the NM kite/silence. When the RNGs finish off their mobs your best bet is to have then help the BSTs asap. My LS has done bcnm30 PP countless times and my brother (RDM50) can kite FOREVER lol. By having the RNGs help the BSTs it will help moderate the hate onto them if they lose charm. Also a RNG can solo these mobs with sleep and bloody bolts. Getting the # of flies down fast is the key. The longer this fight goes on, your chances of winning slowly drop.

I would suggest Rolanberry pies and yag drinks for rdm.

Squid Sushi+1 for the RNGs (we can all use 30 extra hp ^^) along with a few pear au laits.

BSTs use tuna sushi for less chance of mischarm and yag drinks. Bring some jug pets just in case.

I am yet to try this setup but it seems to be the most likely to win, the problem is trying to find 3 lvl30 BSTs >.< Good luck to everyone :D and if you try this strategy please post your outcome I would love some feedback on my method.

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RE: No Tass I told you already we will die!
# Nov 26 2005 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
Pretty sure Bsts can't charm these beasts untold, that was gonna be one of my setups... 3x Bst/whm 3x Rng/Nin, using even jug pets it could work but once again problem relies on finding 3 bsts, and the reason i chose rangers was because they could kill the main boss quickly which is essential. If the rdm goes in kiting the main boss around with gravity, bind, and silence it is easy, than at the same time sleeping the minions is a problem...but what like everyone has been saying they hit relatively not that hard as long as they are split up and they have bad accuracy. If you can split em up they'll fall apart.
1. Rdm goes in E.S. Silence the Mage.
2. Rngs go in Using sleep bolts on minions
3. since you think a problem would lie in the sleep bolting and time issues why not switch from 2 sleeping and 3 attacking why not 3-4 sleeping and 1-2 attacking... If that is possible than it keeps the numbers down and it keeps things simpler.
4. When the first one is killed more rangers can be added into the killing making it easier and easier as you get further in...
5. Does this improve the outcome with 5x rng/nin & Rdm/blm?
No Tass I told you already we will die!
# Nov 24 2005 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
Quote:
5x Rng/Nin & a Rdm/?

My suggestion to this BCNM is kinda tricky but I think I have it all worked out... (comment if you think you could find some flaws or if it is good or what not). My plan requires no 2hr's unless you want to do so, and doesn't require death or any thing too expensive that isn't worth the outcome. What you do is you go in with 5 rng/nin's and a rdm/? (i'm going to have a rdm/blm)... First Rdm goes in and tries to silence the main fly (bind blind paralyze slow do whatever to keep it annoyed and keep it enfeebled... gravity should help too), while the ninjas go in at the same time using sleep bolts, sleeping the minions till all of them are slept (this requires some team work). Than when all the flies are slept 3 rng's help the rdm kill the main boss while the other 2 stand on sleep duty (sleeping the little dudes incase they wake up) when the rdm's and rngs finish the main one (shouldn't be too hard with 3 rngs barrage with holy bolts or a gun or something) attack the minions one by one (occasionally change rngs jobs from sleep duty to attacking for barrage). So requirements... Rng = Bloody bolts, Sleep bolts (x depending on job), holy bolts (x depending on job), and maybe two high potions or a pamama au lait or something, + sushi or cheap evasion food like a jack o' lantern. Rdm = either cookies or pies and maybe 2 yag drinks unless you want to rest.

Edited, Wed Nov 23 09:19:25 2005


Now tass, I know u have played rng dunno if u hit sleep bolts or not but heres the problem...
1 RNG trying to keep 1 mob slept in an exp pt between 30 and 40 can only be slept for at most 5 seconds. It is usually just long enough to get off the next sleep bolt.

The thought of 5 RNGs trying to sleep 8 mobs scares me. The thought of 2 rngs trying to keep ALL of them slept makes me think about running for that ??? b4 I even zone in.

I would say your safest bet for this bcnm (if charmable) would be 3Xbst 2Xrng 1Xrdm

3 bsts can contain 6 damselflys, that leaves 1 each for the RNGs and 1 for the rdm to kite (preferably the NM kite/silence. When the RNGs finish off their mobs your best bet is to have then help the BSTs asap. My LS has done bcnm30 PP countless times and my brother (RDM50) can kite FOREVER lol. By having the RNGs help the BSTs it will help moderate the hate onto them if they lose charm. Also a RNG can solo these mobs with sleep and bloody bolts. Getting the # of flies down fast is the key. The longer this fight goes on, your chances of winning slowly drop.

I would suggest Rolanberry pies and yag drinks for rdm.

Squid Sushi+1 for the RNGs (we can all use 30 extra hp ^^) along with a few pear au laits.

BSTs use tuna sushi for less chance of mischarm and yag drinks. Bring some jug pets just in case.

I am yet to try this setup but it seems to be the most likely to win, the problem is trying to find 3 lvl30 BSTs >.< Good luck to everyone :D and if you try this strategy please post your outcome I would love some feedback on my method.

Untold-Fenrir Server
Brand New Millionaire!
/em thanks Kilioa and Kaliamanu.
Mithra RNG40/NIN20
Woodworking 70.9
No Tass I told you already we will die!
# Nov 24 2005 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
Quote:
5x Rng/Nin & a Rdm/?

My suggestion to this BCNM is kinda tricky but I think I have it all worked out... (comment if you think you could find some flaws or if it is good or what not). My plan requires no 2hr's unless you want to do so, and doesn't require death or any thing too expensive that isn't worth the outcome. What you do is you go in with 5 rng/nin's and a rdm/? (i'm going to have a rdm/blm)... First Rdm goes in and tries to silence the main fly (bind blind paralyze slow do whatever to keep it annoyed and keep it enfeebled... gravity should help too), while the ninjas go in at the same time using sleep bolts, sleeping the minions till all of them are slept (this requires some team work). Than when all the flies are slept 3 rng's help the rdm kill the main boss while the other 2 stand on sleep duty (sleeping the little dudes incase they wake up) when the rdm's and rngs finish the main one (shouldn't be too hard with 3 rngs barrage with holy bolts or a gun or something) attack the minions one by one (occasionally change rngs jobs from sleep duty to attacking for barrage). So requirements... Rng = Bloody bolts, Sleep bolts (x depending on job), holy bolts (x depending on job), and maybe two high potions or a pamama au lait or something, + sushi or cheap evasion food like a jack o' lantern. Rdm = either cookies or pies and maybe 2 yag drinks unless you want to rest.

Edited, Wed Nov 23 09:19:25 2005


Now tass, I know u have played rng dunno if u hit sleep bolts or not but heres the problem...
1 RNG trying to keep 1 mob slept in an exp pt between 30 and 40 can only be slept for at most 5 seconds. It is usually just long enough to get off the next sleep bolt.

The thought of 5 RNGs trying to sleep 8 mobs scares me. The thought of 2 rngs trying to keep ALL of them slept makes me think about running for that ??? b4 I even zone in.

I would say your safest bet for this bcnm (if charmable) would be 3Xbst 2Xrng 1Xrdm

3 bsts can contain 6 damselflys, that leaves 1 each for the RNGs and 1 for the rdm to kite (preferably the NM kite/silence. When the RNGs finish off their mobs your best bet is to have then help the BSTs asap. My LS has done bcnm30 PP countless times and my brother (RDM50) can kite FOREVER lol. By having the RNGs help the BSTs it will help moderate the hate onto them if they lose charm. Also a RNG can solo these mobs with sleep and bloody bolts. Getting the # of flies down fast is the key. The longer this fight goes on, your chances of winning slowly drop.

I would suggest Rolanberry pies and yag drinks for rdm.

Squid Sushi+1 for the RNGs (we can all use 30 extra hp ^^) along with a few pear au laits.

BSTs use tuna sushi for less chance of mischarm and yag drinks. Bring some jug pets just in case.

I am yet to try this setup but it seems to be the most likely to win, the problem is trying to find 3 lvl30 BSTs >.< Good luck to everyone :D and if you try this strategy please post your outcome I would love some feedback on my method.

Untold-Fenrir Server
Brand New Millionaire!
/em thanks Kilioa and Kaliamanu.
Mithra RNG40/NIN20
Woodworking 70.9
Could this work?
# Nov 23 2005 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
5x Rng/Nin & a Rdm/?

My suggestion to this BCNM is kinda tricky but I think I have it all worked out... (comment if you think you could find some flaws or if it is good or what not). My plan requires no 2hr's unless you want to do so, and doesn't require death or any thing too expensive that isn't worth the outcome. What you do is you go in with 5 rng/nin's and a rdm/? (i'm going to have a rdm/blm)... First Rdm goes in and tries to silence the main fly (bind blind paralyze slow do whatever to keep it annoyed and keep it enfeebled... gravity should help too), while the ninjas go in at the same time using sleep bolts, sleeping the minions till all of them are slept (this requires some team work). Than when all the flies are slept 3 rng's help the rdm kill the main boss while the other 2 stand on sleep duty (sleeping the little dudes incase they wake up) when the rdm's and rngs finish the main one (shouldn't be too hard with 3 rngs barrage with holy bolts or a gun or something) attack the minions one by one (occasionally change rngs jobs from sleep duty to attacking for barrage). So requirements... Rng = Bloody bolts, Sleep bolts (x depending on job), holy bolts (x depending on job), and maybe two high potions or a pamama au lait or something, + sushi or cheap evasion food like a jack o' lantern. Rdm = either cookies or pies and maybe 2 yag drinks unless you want to rest.

Edited, Wed Nov 23 09:19:25 2005
RE: Could this work?
# Nov 24 2005 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
Quote:
5x Rng/Nin & a Rdm/?

My suggestion to this BCNM is kinda tricky but I think I have it all worked out... (comment if you think you could find some flaws or if it is good or what not). My plan requires no 2hr's unless you want to do so, and doesn't require death or any thing too expensive that isn't worth the outcome. What you do is you go in with 5 rng/nin's and a rdm/? (i'm going to have a rdm/blm)... First Rdm goes in and tries to silence the main fly (bind blind paralyze slow do whatever to keep it annoyed and keep it enfeebled... gravity should help too), while the ninjas go in at the same time using sleep bolts, sleeping the minions till all of them are slept (this requires some team work). Than when all the flies are slept 3 rng's help the rdm kill the main boss while the other 2 stand on sleep duty (sleeping the little dudes incase they wake up) when the rdm's and rngs finish the main one (shouldn't be too hard with 3 rngs barrage with holy bolts or a gun or something) attack the minions one by one (occasionally change rngs jobs from sleep duty to attacking for barrage). So requirements... Rng = Bloody bolts, Sleep bolts (x depending on job), holy bolts (x depending on job), and maybe two high potions or a pamama au lait or something, + sushi or cheap evasion food like a jack o' lantern. Rdm = either cookies or pies and maybe 2 yag drinks unless you want to rest.

Edited, Wed Nov 23 09:19:25 2005


Now tass, I know u have played rng dunno if u hit sleep bolts or not but heres the problem...
1 RNG trying to keep 1 mob slept in an exp pt between 30 and 40 can only be slept for at most 5 seconds. It is usually just long enough to get off the next sleep bolt.

The thought of 5 RNGs trying to sleep 8 mobs scares me. The thought of 2 rngs trying to keep ALL of them slept makes me think about running for that ??? b4 I even zone in.

I would say your safest bet for this bcnm (if charmable) would be 3Xbst 2Xrng 1Xrdm

3 bsts can contain 6 damselflys, that leaves 1 each for the RNGs and 1 for the rdm to kite (preferably the NM kite/silence. When the RNGs finish off their mobs your best bet is to have then help the BSTs asap. My LS has done bcnm30 PP countless times and my brother (RDM50) can kite FOREVER lol. By having the RNGs help the BSTs it will help moderate the hate onto them if they lose charm. Also a RNG can solo these mobs with sleep and bloody bolts. Getting the # of flies down fast is the key. The longer this fight goes on, your chances of winning slowly drop.

I would suggest Rolanberry pies and yag drinks for rdm.

Squid Sushi+1 for the RNGs (we can all use 30 extra hp ^^) along with a few pear au laits.

BSTs use tuna sushi for less chance of mischarm and yag drinks. Bring some jug pets just in case.

I am yet to try this setup but it seems to be the most likely to win, the problem is trying to find 3 lvl30 BSTs >.< Good luck to everyone :D and if you try this strategy please post your outcome I would love some feedback on my method.

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/em thanks Kilioa and Kaliamanu.
Mithra RNG40/NIN20
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Emp pin yes please
# Nov 19 2005 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
I have read all the post about this BCNM and most of u say the same thing 6 smn's but not many people have said different party setups that win. it has to be possible because im on Lakshmi and most of the time there is min of 6 emp pins in AH at 3.5 mil and going up even tho some of them might just be people selling it cause they Empress pin but still i want this if any1 on lakshmi knows a way 2 do it w/o using a hole heep of 2hours send Bigmonkey a /tell plz
Party set-up
# Nov 19 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
Well, just got done last night with this one. I can say that it wasn't as easy as I thought it would be. So of course, rolling in cocky on the first one. The time to beat was 3 mins , by 4 smn Needless to say we finished it in about 30 secs, face down dead outside the bcnm.(owned like never before).

Party set-up was as follows:
whm/blm
blm/rdm 28
smn/whm
smn/whm
war/nin
brd/?

So, I was leader trying to think outside the box a little.(oh well) Just finished up about 10 runs to worms turn, so I thought what the heck lets do it like that one. The plan was to have bard sleep the whole bunch of them, because blm doesn't have sleepga at 30. The war would pull main mob out, and we would all keeel it. If that didn't work, back-up plan was to ES sleep the main one and kill the babies.

Here is where it got fun!? As we were buffing up doing a little yag drink trading and stuff, the war decides to run into the flies by himself. I was still at the zone kneeling for mp. I see the bard yell "wait", but too late. Then I see "I can't sleep them." About 3 secs later War was dead, 3 secs after that Brd was dead, and so on. By the time the flies got to me, I felt like a small boy at Neverland Ranch with a door locked from the outside. I knew what was coming and I couldn't get out. 6 people x 3 secs = roughly 18 secs til entire party was taking dirt naps. After the 3min kick out. We all decided lets do it again.(Can't go as bad as the last time right?) Right.... Everyone gets raise, rests up, and Dear God, here we go again.

So, 2nd tme in, same start.
Buffs, food, etc.
Since we tried to do fight without using smn 2hr, we changed our minds. We only had 1 orb left anyways so we did exactly what was posted here. But with the same party we already had.
Smns used shiva, 2hr, war pulled all flies to us, both smn did diamond dust twice. All the baby flies died, but one (had 1%) left. Main fly was under 50%, couple hits from the war, 2 or 3 nukes from the blm and that was it. Grabbed the booty and was out.
Dropped:
elm log
insect wing
mannequin head
wrestler's aspis
something else.

Have fun!




Edited, Sat Nov 19 14:17:23 2005
strat
# Nov 17 2005 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
a good idea would be to do smnx2 and pld or thf
blmx1 (41+ for d2)then 2 other ppl who can be whatever. once that set is dead then the ppl who didn't two hour change to smnx2 and pld/thf and the others change to other jobs one person being blm for d2 after fight. this cuts things down from 12 hours to 6. of course that implies you have smn or pld at 30 and then something else but since to earn pld and smn you do need something else at 30 you should be ok. finding 2 blm at 41+ that has smn at 30+ isn't too hard either. gonna try this soon with my ls see if we can win/get it done in 6 hours. also what is drop rate on emp hair pin?
Working Strat... 5 members ^-^)b
# Nov 16 2005 at 12:59 AM Rating: Good
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Ok well i asked a few LS members to help me and surprisingly we had a Pt's worth of ppl just hangin around so you know =P

PT Setup: (5 members)
x2 SMN/WHM
x1 PLD/WAR (THF/WAR can work)
x1 WHM/BLM
x1 BLM/WHM

Items:
Sky Orb (Lv 30 orb- obviously =P)
SMN's should have a Yagudo drink each... and a hi-ether or 2 ethers for safe keeping just incase(we didnt need)
Possibly a yag drink for whm and blm if they are MP hungry
Tank food optional, i dont think ours used any

*Note* all players should have thier 2hr's ready inorder for this strat to work ^^;

1. go in buff up... (Protectra, shellra, baraera, aquaveil(if u have))
2. SMN's summon Shiva (preferably not on fireday ... we did on Lightsday by coinsidence)
3. all run up to the edge of the arena, allow PLD or THF to lead.
4. SMN's use Astral Flow and pop the Yagudo drink.
5. PLD or THF Provokes the main fly (huntfly i think?)
6. Once all flys are linked to him, he uses Invincible or Perf Dodge.
7. SMN's tell shivas to assault the main huntfly and Diamond Dust onto the main fly (AOE will hit others)- with 2 smns, all baby flys dropped after both summons used Diamond dust one time.
8. continue fighting until the main fly is dead.(he had about 2/3 or 1/2 HP left after initial Astral flows.)
9. Pop ur ethers if u feel necissary.
10. Victory {Too Weak.}

*Note* The BLM didnt do much except Firaga and Aeroga after the initial Astral flows were used... he came along as more of a saftey thing ^^;

unfortunately we didnt get the pin to drop but got mannequin head, which i gave to someone else who wanted... was fun tho... be careful for lag ^^;

Rate up if this helps plz ^-^)b

Good luck~
Blm
# Nov 12 2005 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
23 posts
Anyone ever tried this with 6 blm? I don't know how much Firaga does damage, but doing 100-200 would make the small flies die, leaving the leader one alive... And if it's sleepable, this shouldn't be that hard.
Maybe... BARD!
# Nov 10 2005 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I was just thinking, treat this like a Steamed Sprouts BCNM (the mandy one) but have the DD use this item:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3023

Some people said that bard have a hard time sleeping them? Is this good enuf?:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?109077

Dont forget, i can add +7 more CHR with Etude (with Rose Harp +1) and another 4 CHR +4 VIT (to cancel out singa VIT-) with food. Thats 60 Total CHR, and if I switch to Kingdom Horn instead of Mary's Horn, 63 CHR.

Edited, Thu Nov 10 21:59:51 2005
same
# Oct 20 2005 at 8:19 PM Rating: Default
This works the same wway with the ENM that drops jaeger ring or w/e its calls
This could work
# Oct 20 2005 at 7:28 AM Rating: Good
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711 posts
I've never done this BC, but I think I know how to win without some rediculous plan using a bunch of 2hrs, only thing is, someone is going to die...
Sac-pull the NM, plain and simple (For those of you who've never done Dynamis, Sac-pulling is where one person aggroes a bunch of mobs including one target mob, one member of the PT then Provokes the Target mob off of the Sac-puller while the pullers runs in the opposite way and dies in a corner somewhere)

To do a succesful sac-pull, you need one member that can stay alive for just long enough to get the target mob seperated from the rest so that they don't link when the target is pulled. In dynamis, you generally have a very large area to go through with usually 20-30+ mobs to train, and so the only jobs that can really survive long enough to even GET to the mob are PLDs and THFs with 2hr, and while those 2 jobs could do that easily enough in this BCNM, that would still be one BCNM every 2 hours unless you cycled out PLDs and THFs which would throw the loot share way the hell off. However, since you only have 9 mobs to deal with, I'm fairly sure that one Mage with Blink and Stoneskin and a decent DEF build could pull it off long enough to get the NM pulled. And since only one Mage has Stoneskin at this lvl, you'll need a WHM, I think after that, you just want members that can take one fly each solo including at least a couple that can sleep (RDM/NIN anyone?)

So we have WHM, RDM/NIN, RDM/NIN, RDM/NIN, and then any other 2 jobs that can solo (Probably something/NIN)

Edited, Thu Oct 20 11:26:32 2005
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# Oct 11 2005 at 9:01 PM Rating: Good
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The simplest way to do this BCNM is to bring two Summoners and either a Paladin or Thief. The flies don't hit particularly hard, but the sheer amount of hits will drop a tank fairly quickly. The basic strategy is to buff up with Aerial Armor, Protectra, etc. and wait for the Blood Pact timer to cool down. SMNs should bring a single Yagudo Drink and Hi-Ether per attempt. When ready, the SMN should both summon Shiva and activate Astral Flow while the THF/PLD uses their 2HR and runs in, aggroing all the flies and grouping them together. The Huntfly will cast various wind-based spells, but nothing to worry about. After all the flies are grouped, the SMNs should both use Diamond Dust on the Huntfly. The Huntfly will still be alive at the end, but is easily killed with another volley of Diamond Dusts.

Some things to note:
*The Houndflies are not charmable. Throwing six BSTs at this BCNM won't be an easy win.
*Each Houndfly has roughly 600-700HP, not the rumored 150-200HP. Diamond Dust hits for approximately 480 on neutral days and takes off about two-thirds of their HP.
*I'm fairly sure that the Huntfly does not cast Aeroga. So far, it's only cast Aero and Choke.

All an all, it's an easy win every two hours. Mannequin Heads drop 100% of the time, which sell for a decent amount of gil. My group is up to 3/3 with THF and two SMN, with our best time being 3:18. I tried this once with 3BST and a SMN, but we were crushed because we couldn't finish off flies fast enough.

Good luck to all the Hairpin seekers out there. ^_^

Edited, Wed Oct 12 21:35:20 2005
Would this strategy work?
# Oct 09 2005 at 7:19 PM Rating: Default
Would this set of jobs and this strategy work?
Have 4 Blm/Whm and 2 Nin/Thf
At the start have the blms use elemental seal. Then wait 9 minutes. Then go and sleep 4 of the flies and once the elemental seal ability resets use it again and sleep the other 4 flies.
A minute before attacking the flies the two Nin/Thf use Sneak Attack. They go in, use it on the Huntfly and land both their Sneak Attack and then use it again once it resets. This is all happening at once. Once all the hound flies are all asleep, then the blms assist the ninjas in killing the HuntFly. Once the Huntfly is dead start killing the houndflies one by one since hopefully all of them are still asleep.
RE: Would this strategy work?
# Oct 18 2005 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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No, Elemental Seal wears off after about 1.5 minutes, you can't carry it around for 9 minutes.
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# Oct 07 2005 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
Ok i agree with the Kryptonite dude that u shouldnt have to have all 6 ppl use 2 hours for 1 bcnm fight unless you are only doing it once and no one else has an orb. This is a good BCNM to do if you can figure out a way to win. As of yet no one has comfirmed that BST's can charm these, and no one has given us a decent way to win. (6 SMN 2 hours is a little extreme) The mobs highly resist BRD lullaby, and sleepga is a lvl 31 spell so it cant be used. However Sleep from a BLM or RDM will stick. Gravity and bind also work. Problem is there are 9 mobs and no way to pull one at a time. My opinion is this could be done with NIN/WAR, WAR/NIN, THF/NIN, WHM/BLM, RDM/???, BLM/WHM... THF/NIN runs in grabs aggro and uses flee, the pty grabs the NM and kills it as quick as possible. If THF starts to get in trouble they can Perfect Dodge and put utsusemi back up and they should last long enough for the NM to die. BLM and RDM sleep 2 of the remaining 8 flies, RDM gravity's and binds another 2 and kites them until sleep timer is up, nin and war solo 2, and thf continues to kite last 2. I will try this BCNM soon, but I am not going to go with just anyone. Once I gather some good friends we will test this out.
beat it
# Sep 29 2005 at 4:42 PM Rating: Default
let me shed some light here. i did this with 5 smn 1 rng. 2 smn and the rng died like at the start. so i think 3 smn can handle this.

if you do 3 smn all you need is 2 high eathers and yag drink each.

i used 1 hi eather and pinaple juce and my timer was up for the 3 rd round of dimand dust as it went down. i jsut needed a bit more mp for it

Edited, Thu Sep 29 18:01:27 2005
So, so far only spectulation
# Sep 22 2005 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
I've read all the post and no one seems to know how to kill all the flys. We're not sure if the flies can be charmed. BRD have a hard time sleeping if they can. BLM sleepga is to high for the BC. Other than 6 SMN 2 hour and use good ethers and yagdrinks I'm not sure of how this will work.
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# Sep 11 2005 at 12:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I could see this being done with 6 BSTs easily. Charm 6 of the flies, 2 BSTs have their flies take out the other two flies, they can help if they want to speed things up, while the other 4 BSTs and their pets attack the main fly. WHM sub would be best because of AoE
RE: Wondering
# Sep 16 2005 at 10:18 PM Rating: Decent
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would be nice if it were actually possible to charm them.
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RE: Wondering
# Sep 16 2005 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
If any other beastmasters on Sylph would like to team up on this get ahold of my main character Darklight. I am interested in trying this one. I have done the BCNM 20 for astral rings many times.
O.O simple strat
# Sep 09 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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flys aret sound aggro so send in carby and release him. the one u sent hit to attack will come back to the pt that is waiting for them.. kill them one by one >.>. this will only work if they arent true sight
RE: O.O simple strat
# Sep 16 2005 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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has this been confirmed at all?
RE: O.O simple strat
# Sep 27 2005 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
I did this BCNM just recently. We were raped!!
Carby death pull does not work.

At first I thought it was because our SMN attacked the Huntfly, but as we did it the second time and Carby death pulled a Houndfly, the whole calvery of flys came at us again.

That's my two cents, if anyone has a miracle to this BCNM, <Can I have it?>
RE: O.O simple strat
# Sep 30 2005 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
quite a few of the bcnm's are like this and makes it tough for smn to even be worthwhile. Rather than having hate for the avatar upon link, the mobs will go for the smn that casted and is commanding that avatar. The only way to counter this would be to nail all the mobs in a Astral Flow BP, or perhaps thunderspark. But I'm pretty sure they'll all come after the smn once the avatar dies. ; ;
how do u get there?
# Sep 01 2005 at 7:27 PM Rating: Decent
ive never been to this place or heard of it but i wanna try this bcnm sometime with my ls. can anyone tell me where to go to get there i don't have CoP so do i need that?
RE: how do u get there?
# Sep 15 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
Its an area off of Yughtto Grotto
West Ronfaura---> Ghelsba Outpost / Fort Ghelsba---> Yughott Grotto---> Holairis Peak
Six Axe Attack
# Sep 01 2005 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I bet 6 BST could do this the same way we do the Steamed Sprouts BCNM 40. Charm flies, make em all fight each other. Everyone goes BST/WHM to cure themselves... alls well.
BLM sleepga
# Aug 30 2005 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
I've heard it said that the flies can be slept with blm sleepga, but brd lullaby is useless on them. Just like the worms BCNM. If anyone wants to try that, be my guest and let me know how it turns out.
RE: BLM sleepga
# Sep 07 2005 at 6:55 PM Rating: Default
Sleepga is 31. Whoever said you can sleepga mobs in a BCNM 30 is a ******.
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