Promyvion - The Emptiness - Get your game onFollow

I could put this in the main guide, but really it's not so much a function of Promyvion as it is a function of level capped areas. This was in the release notes, but I'll repeat it, as the question comes up a lot.


If you're a level that's near the cap (say, 30-32 in Promy, 40-43 in Phomiuna, etc.) you may notice that you're earning *far* more experience than your friends. You're all capped at 40 together, but your xp is rockin' while theirs is kind of lame.

How does the exp reduction work if you're over the cap

The game gives you the greater of two values. Either...

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Formula 1) The EXP you would earn if you were your base level

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Formula 2) 1/2 the EXP you would earn at the level-cap.
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There is one extra catch. If you're earning exp via Formula 2 you are not eligible for EXP Chains. Players who are near the cap -are- and will be able to xp chain to their heart's content.



What? I can't do math. Math is hard. ><

Okay, let me break it down for you.

Let's pretend that you've walked into Promyvion and your actual base level is 33. You wind up capped down to Level 30.

You fight an IT Wanderer on the 4th floor. It's IT++ to a Level 30 -- let's pretend it's real level is 38.

Formula 1)
Lv38 beast vs Lv33 PC - 5 level spread, maybe it clocks out as being IT. You would earn 160xp for the battle.

Formula 2)
Lv38 beast vs Lv30 capped PC. Definitely IT. Clocks out to 200xp. Because you're on a capped formula this is cut in half - You would earn 100xp.

Formula 1 gives you the best result, so that's what you get when you walk in as a Lv33 and are capped down to 30. You may participate in xp chains. Fighting in Promy will be a profitable venture for you.



A friend in your party runs a Level 60 WHM and has come along to do the Promy run with ya. He's in the party for the same wanderer battle.

Formula 1)
Lv38 beast vs Lv60 PC - the monster would rate as Too Weak. YOu would earn no exp from it at all.

Formula 2)
Lv38 beast vs Lv30 capped PC. Definitely IT. Clocks out to 200xp. Because you're on a capped formula this is cut in half - You would earn 100xp.

Formula 2 gives you the best results, so your friend who's on his 60WHM capped to 30 will earn 100xp for the fight. He won't be able to participate in xp chains. Fighting in Promy won't be as profitable, but at least the xp he's earning is being applied to his main class.



I hope that helps. ^^

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I have something to add for the Promyvion-Holla boss. If you are a WHM in a Holla party, you will have Auto-Regen (Lvl 25 WHM passive ability). This can cancel out any Poison Potions you may use and spell trouble for your party, as you can be put to sleep.

Instead, a WHM might consider using Venom Potions. They give -5 HP/tick, but if you use a Pear au Lait (+3 HP/tick), the combination of food, potion, and Auto-Regen will give a WHM -1 HP/tick.

This sounds troublesome and expensive, but at least on Unicorn, the price of a Venom Potion + Pear au Lait is cheaper than 1 Poison Potion.

Hope this helps. ^^

I was put to sleep in the BC while using poison potions, though in all the hecticness (those things are busy battles...) it's possible that it wore and I didn't notice. I will have to check this in a more controlled environment and make a further report. However, I did test with Auto-Regen and a Poison Potion while not in battle, and my HP did not change at all the entire potion duration. Whether or not the damage counts that way, I am not sure.

A couple of questions:

1. Psychoanima and Hysteroanima. Can you use both of these at once on the NM boss or only one of them at a time?

2. Also since each of these have a somewhat 30 sec effect period. Do you need to have one member use these once 30sec effect is up or can all member dump the bottles on the NM and the time effect will stack up to have a longer duration effect?

we actually just did this in our promy-holla NM boss.
you can, however there is a 10 second delay on using one of them then using another. what you can do though, is have one person use their psychoanima and then another person use their hysteroanima at the same time. this will stack both then once they're off, switch (you do hysteroanima and then other other do psychoanima).

we made an anima order so we didn't overstack and the whole fight pretty much the NM just stood around. there was times where he did attack since you don't really know when your anima is used up.

it worked really well, all of us had those two and 4 of us had terroanima for the rest of the fight. it was really easy if you prepare.

6 BST Toatal Ownage of Promyvion - Dem

Could not have done it without the info in the ogininal post!

Edited, Tue Feb 22 11:41:55 2005 by taverasme

I just finished farming recollections from the first floors of dem and holla. I didn't see it in the guide so forgive me if it is and I missed it.

At both of them, the crag specific enemy was of higher level than the other enemies. In dem there were Gorgers that were even match, while in Holla I was jumped by a tough Thinker. Took me a little by suprise as I wasn't expecting anything over decent.

One of the thinkers also used one of the tap moves, although I can't remember if it was binary or trinary.

Some new info for you. The ENM battles from yesterdays update are in the spires, so I thought you'd like to put them in your awesome guide. Here's a link to some battle reports on Asura. I haven't participated in any of these, I'm just passing the info along :P

Reports from Asura

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, this is a big thread and I didn't have time to read it all, (excellent info btw). In case it has not been mentioned, a RNG can 1 - 2 hit kill the strays on all 3 of the floors that have them, RNG simply need to use Holy Bolts, this makes killing the MRs alot easier and faster. Hope that helps and isn't duplicate ino ^^;;


Dem - 3/4

Mea - 2/3

Holla - 4/9

unless you know most of the people in an alliance, i'd strongly reccomend going with only 6 or 12 people.

I found out what the "Rementant of <NM>" is for. According to Faranim they pop NMs in Promyvion-Vhazl.

Have a stupid question. What is kiting?

Thanks to the great info in this guide we were able to prepare our team for all three Promyvions. We did ALL three in ALL BST parties. If anyone is interested in doing the same, it is very possible, we are not the only all BST team to do it.

Click here if for ALL BST PROMYVION thread.