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I want to see a SATA True Strike with Rapheal's Rod...

PLD is A- club. And any 75 PLD had better have Staff capped, or at least enough to get Spirit Taker.

As for MNK staff. 2 words. Kirin Pole.

No they are not.

Neither are mandragoras, dammit!

They are just squishy mobs with weak DEF.

Just because a DRG owns the mandies in the Jungles, or because a THF owns crawlers in CN with Viper Bite, does not mean those mobs are weak to the weapons they use. It's because those jobs just do good damage at that level regardless of what they're fighting.

This is how false rumors get around, and rather than correcting them, this guide and thread just seem to be spreading them. And yet the OP's rating is 5.00. Maybe I should make some stuff up and call it a guide too.

And Aden really knows his stuff, but "Impact damage?" I have to say I disagree. THF with True Strike and PLD with capped Staff in KRT can easily prove that other blunt weapons can own bones too. Monks kill stuff fast at endgame because of our low delay attack rounds moreso than raw damage per hit. Staves delay is too long to compete, and the highest damage club is something like 40, whereas a 75 monk with Destroyers has a per-fist damage of approximately 50, and still attacks faster than the high damage clubs.

Nice info, well done.

But how about axe do axe have a piercing WS.. idk but I dpn't see axe as a piercing weapon at all.

Or Damnation Dive, which is absolutely irritating for soloers. Stupid goddamn Stun move...

What I've always wanted to know is why the hell are Ravens pink? Last I checked, Ravens were black... There's even a non-pink bird texture in the game (Saru birds are grey'ish), so why the hell are Ravens pink??? Sorry...

That is all

My whole point is that mandragoras being weak to piercing is not commonly acknowledged. I have heard a million times about bats, birds, bees, flies, etc, which coincidentally can all be grouped into a single group of "Flying" enemies. I have never heard until this thread that mandies were weak to piercing, and despite my asking twice, not a single other person on the forums has replied, "Why yes, mandies are weak to piercing, it's common knowledge."


Never really heard this either. Guess you haven't partied with a WAR/THF using greataxe there. Or a monk using Boreas Cesti. Or any THF, RNG, or DRG except those with the best gear. Apparently those jobs outparsing all others in the jungles is more "common knowledge" that I have missed, despite having been through the jungles with six jobs, including THF and RNG.


You, sir, are the one making a guide. The burden is on you to ensure the guide is accurate, not me to disprove what has suddenly sprung up as the definitive truth.

Edited, Thu Oct 27 12:10:38 2005 by Minaku

My pre-patch RNG did ~120 per shot to yhoator mandragoras at 30. The MNK in my pt was hitting for 30-35 per fist on the same mandragoras. If we pulled a goblin my shot damage would go down to 75-85, but the monks remained around the 30ish mark.

Yes, I would agree that mandragoras are also low-defence, low-VIT mobs, but that doesn't account for the much wider difference in attack between myself and the MNK when we fought a goblin.

I'm tempted to agree that mandragora are weak vs. piercing, coincidentally if people follow the jungles > garlaige level path, the two primary mobs you fight (mandys and bats respectively) are weak vs. piercing - hence THF gets SATA and immediately can do ridiculous damage for some 7 levels. After that you fight crawlers which are a low-def but non-piercing-weak, so THF still are damage kings. It's only when you get to perhaps Nest Beetles at around 39-40 that you see a lowering of THF damage.

Bones are 25% weak vs. blunt weapons (be it H2H, staff, club, or the blunt polearm and greatkatana), pots are 50% weak against blunt - I've seen a mnk in exp pt break 1k at 53 exp'ing off the Magic Jugs in the basement of garlaige citadel when they're lucky to touch 700 on the coffer-level bones, using Raging Fists. I guess the fact that pots have even more annoying TP moves makes up for the fact that they are stupidly weak vs. blunt.

I stay in the jungles until 32ish.

Yeah, I did WAR/MNK up to 30. SA Sturmwind is exactly what I meant, but I guess that is near the end of the jungles. My point was just that in my experience THF, DRG and RNG never stood out amazingly over other DD's in the jungles, unless they were amazingly equipped better. They do however get some very nice JA's in that range which make them quite strong independent of the weapon they use.

Sorry to cause such a ruckus. I am not the Forum Police so think what you want on the subject. We can agree to disagree.

1. All weapons hit for low damage on slimes.. so it wouldn't make them piercing.

2. In that BCNM you fight hectaeyes right? Those arn't resistant to physical damage like slimes.

must be some ****** up type of slime ~.~

THF here, neither are weak to piercing. If they were I'd do similar damage as to flies, and I don't. Not even close to it.