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#52 Oct 16 2005 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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C'mon someone has to have the blighted Gloom quest.

What if you took 6 people in the promyvion for ENM but left one out for the NPC (WHM?). I wonder if theirs a ??? on differnt levels that give your NPC more EXP. Or by killing more mobs in there you get a bigger exp bonus. I heard someone got 200, but I got 500 by killed ~5mobs.

<edit> I do mean after I click the ??? and it says <ft> gains &^% expeirence points.

Edited, Sun Oct 16 12:46:26 2005 by Vobent
#53 Oct 16 2005 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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Heh, someone didn't notice my thread.

I didn't leave the first floor in promyvion and the blighted gloom quest days later.
#54 Oct 16 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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To anyone wondering how to get a new Tactics Pearl, here is what I found out through my own research. (which is gradually continuing)

It was my experience that one can quest for a new Tactics Pearl once per day. I got my first one last night, then after JPN midnight this morning (ET) once my old Tactics Pearl had been used up, I was able to quest for a new one.^^ However I was reminded that today was the Conquest Tally - so it in fact very well could be once per week - which seems a little long, but could be entirely possible.

**On a side note, totally unrelated, I do know that the New Exp. Rings (which were revealed in the same update as the Tactics Pearl) can only be bought or recharged once per Conquest Tally - the Conquest NPC informs you of this upon purtchase. This does lead me to believe that the Tactics Pearl may act the same way. However, I have yet to test this out for myself, but many posts imply the pearl may be obtained only once per week. =)

To recieve a new Tactics Pearl you have to drop the old one first. It is not recharged per se, but actually replaced by your NPC. The used Pearl can be tossed before or after you have completed the Promyvion quest once again. However, you will not be able to recieve a new Pearl until you have disposed of the old one first.

And yes - you must allow your NPC to ask you to help him investigate the Emptiness again before you can call him from the Rendezvous Point inside the Promyvion (which is found just after you zone into whichever Promyvion you choose to go to).

I hope this answers any questions anyone may have. Take care^^

EDIT: Also you can adjust the exp your NPC recieves by the # of kills you make before completing the quest it seems.

The formula seems to be:

(base exp gained=300)+ 40exp(# of kills) = EXP gained after completing quest**

So if you kill two mobs the exp gained would be:

300+ 40(2) = 380

There must be a cap of some sort - or else everyone could go crazy leveling their NPC =)

I don't know if this is true but based on what I have read and my own experience this seems to be the formula used. Let me know if I am wrong please. =)

EDIT: Added quest available only once per week info.

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Mystery Tour states you may quest for a new Tactics Pearl every 3 R/L days. I have not tested it yet but got a new Tactics Pearl b4 the new conquest Tally and a little over 3 days since I had quested for my previous one. Hope this helps. =)

Edited, Thu Oct 20 20:03:02 2005 by cuthbertgaruda
#55 Oct 16 2005 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah Huckster, I've done all the quests so far (the Promy one twice now XD).
Gonna level my NPC using 2 charges of Tactics Pearl today, and check back with Luto after that.
#56 Oct 16 2005 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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I can't trade a Kanesada to Luto - she just doesn't accept it.

Do you trade 3rd teir weapons directly to your NPC?\

Also, I got my tactics pearl yesterday, then I did the limit break quest.

My NPC levled to 51 today and at the RP, I got the Promy quest again. I haven't used any charges on my Tactics Pearl - should I use them up, throw it away and then do the promy quest again? Just do the promy quest?

Anyone else get it again and do it? What happens?

-p
#57 Oct 16 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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You can quest for a new Tactics Pearl once per day. I got my first one last night, then after JPN midnight this morning (ET) once my old Tactics Pearl had been used up, I was able to quest for a new one.^^


I would be wary of stating that today. Do realize that today was the conquest update, which happens at the beginning of the new JPN week. People who earlier in the week have cancelled the quest have not seemed to be able to get a new pearl. I have not dropped my tactics pearl as of yet at 0 charges and my NPC asked me again today to go to the emptiness.

BTW is anyone considering trying to hit the top floor of Promyvion hitting all of the ??? marks along the way?

eckmanjo:
Third 1h Axe is Battle Axe

Edited, Sun Oct 16 14:32:36 2005 by Mohazeris
#58 Oct 16 2005 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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You can get a new Tactics Pearl once per WEEK, starting on the reset on Sunday. I have had this confirmed by two other people and myself. The quest is exactly the same as the first time, and you must drop your Tactics pearl before you can get the new one.


Edit: Now that I think about it, has anyone tried to get all the way to the top for the Promy quests? Do you just need to get to the second level to get the Gloom quest?

Edited, Sun Oct 16 14:51:16 2005 by SeraphPDH
#59 Oct 16 2005 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
Cuthbertgaruda, are you sure it's once per day? Because I read somewhere that it was once per conquest tally. Not sure about this, but I will look into it when I get some more time.

And about dropping your tactics pearl, do you think it has any negative effects on your relationship with your NPC? like dropping your signal pearl?

I'm hoping/guessing not, since SE has said nothing about it, like they did when they fixed the exploit, I guess you could call it, with the signal pearl.
#60 Oct 16 2005 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
very well done everything was very detailed,and the information was very easy to understand,i have printed out the information for future reference thank you for posting this you deserve a big rate up for this great info topic.
#61 Oct 16 2005 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Seraph: I didn't go higher than the first floor and got the gloom quest. I didn't even have my npc out in there any longer than 5 minutes, and didn't kill a single monster with it out.
#62 Oct 16 2005 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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Seraph: I didn't go higher than the first floor and got the gloom quest. I didn't even have my npc out in there any longer than 5 minutes, and didn't kill a single monster with it out.


What level is your NPC and what quests have you done previous to getting it?

A couple friends and I are all trying to get this. We all have level 50 NPCs, did the food quest, did the Promy quest (floor 1) and got the 3rd weapon upgrade. We havent gotten the G1 quest yet, since our guys are more like 50.50 instead of 50.99, so one more day of leveling to go.
#63 Oct 16 2005 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I got the genkai right after my level dinged 50. You must have missed doing something.
#64 Oct 16 2005 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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Assuming the Promyvion escort formula above is correct (300 + 40*mobs), then the cap is 1500 experience. I killed 33 mobs today, and only received 1500 experience by clicking the ??? on the first floor.

And yes, I do believe the formula is correct after asking several friends about their exp. gains. No idea about ??? on other floors, though.
#65 Oct 16 2005 at 2:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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My npc had just gotten 54 shortly before I got the quest. I had done both the food quest, the promyvion quest, and I completed the level cap quest the day before we had the 12 hour update (I forget which day it was lol). My tactics pearl was completely used up by this point, I had not used my signal pearl for that day but had been summoning my npc regularly since the update. I got the third upgrade the day before I got the gloom quest.
#66 Oct 16 2005 at 2:52 PM Rating: Good
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It all seems to random, I get my weapon upgrade 4 levels before you do? hmmmm...

Supposedly there is a quest you have to do before you can get NPC G1. I believe it involves a girl in Windy Waters, and you pose in certain gear for her, and you get her autograph as a reward. I have done that quest, the food quest, the promy quest, and my NPC is well into level 50, but no G1 yet... :_:

EDIT: BTW, rate ups for the helpful responses. I appreciate it.

Edited, Sun Oct 16 16:06:59 2005 by SeraphPDH
#67 Oct 16 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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Well, I did drop my signal pearl sometime the week before after getting frustrated from being disconnected 2 kills into an NPC session (I was constantly getting disconnected at random for 2 weeks mind you). I didn't get anything mentioned till I traded another first tier weapon to my npc.
#68 Oct 16 2005 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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Heh, decided to try a little experiment and solo to the second floor in Promy Holla. Needless to say I forgot about those fences, and got agroed right as i got to the ???. I couldn't fight my way out, and died. Tried to do the quest again, and I cant seem to get it.

So, if you fail, you might have to wait until next week, or until the next day, or the next time you summon your NPC. I'll keep you posted.
#69 Oct 16 2005 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe the reason why I couldnt recall my NPC at the Promy rhondv site was because the new conquest week hadn't started yet after I blew the last one.

I did finially get it again today, and I called im all four time and he finially leveled to 51. I can't beleive it took so long to get to 51, if we had to be at 50.999 in order to get the other quest.

I was battling bad asp Dioryma's in Cop coast. I guess I need to know where to go to level if this was the wrong place.
#71 Oct 16 2005 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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i'd suggest fighting something higher in level, those monsters are 47-51, so your npc was getting anywhere from 80-120xp per kill, and since kills are limited you were getting less than half of what you could be getting.
#72 Oct 16 2005 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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I was about to ask the same thing. Has it any negative effect if i drop the Tactis Pearl in the middle of the week to get a new one?

And:

Does it recharge automatically after the weekly conquest update?

About the headgear:

I also can only use the level 10 Faceguard or just nothing. So how can i get one of the other possible headgears that are listed in the first post? I want my NPC to wear a Seer's Crown or something like that that's good for a healer like my NPC is.

And about the Promy-Thingy:

Can i investigate the first floor solo to find one of the ??? there as a RNG/NIN together with my NPC who acts as a healer w/o a high chance of dying? I it save? At least a little bit? ^_^;

Edited, Sun Oct 16 20:18:04 2005 by Watershine
#73 Oct 16 2005 at 7:17 PM Rating: Good
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Has it any negative effect if i drop the Tactis Pearl in the middle of the week to get a new one?

No
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Does it recharge automatically after the weekly conquest update?

No
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I also can only use the level 10 Faceguard or just nothing. So how can i get one of the other possible headgears that are listed in the first post? I want my NPC to wear a Seer's Crown or something like that that's good for a healer like my NPC is.

The armor that you see on your NPC is purely cosmetic. It has no effect on their attack/defense/MP/etc.
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Can i investigate the first floor solo to find one of the ??? there as a RNG/NIN together with my NPC who acts as a healer w/o a high chance of dying? I it save? At least a little bit? ^_^;

I did it as a naked blm/whm. Just be smart about it and wait for the mobs to move.
#74 Oct 16 2005 at 7:25 PM Rating: Good
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ok this is getting my annoyed, maybe someone can tell me whats going on with my npc..

my npc dinged 50 and got to about 50.5, at this time it was thought npc had to be at 50.99 to get lb and my friend has his tatics pearl and i am just 1 summon away from getting mine so i drop pearl thinking itll work like that come back with npc at 50.99 and i cant get the tatics pearl quest, and the optionfor appearence is gone. o well, then i go to lb guy and cant get quest

next day it is found that you need to do the quest with angelica to get it so i go do quest then come back and he still wont give me lb quest so i just log

next day i figure maybe if i summon my npc ill be able to do the stuff (havent summoned since i droped it) so i go help a friend out getting pld testamony and summon her, after a few fights without asking they invite some other people and she dissapears. i go back and i have the appearence option back but no tatics pearl quest, and no lb quest. why the hell can i get the quest >.<
#75 Oct 16 2005 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
Perhaps all of these quests are actually dependant on the relationship you have with your NPC. Dropping the pearl is a major hit to your relationship points so maybe that's why you couldn't get the quest even though your NPC is 1 tnl. Also for the rest of you who have had trouble getting these quests even though it seems you've met all the prerequisites, have you let your NPC die at all?
#76 Oct 16 2005 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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All the NPC quests and options are probably related to the amount of affinity you have with your NPC. i.e. there are probably 4 conditions to recieving quests, not all applicable at once.

1) your current level of NPC affinity (fighting monsters(or # of calls maybe) and doing quests with them should increase affinity - whether death decreases this iunno)
2) prerequisite quests completed (weapon upgrades probably included)
3) your NPC's level
4) your NPC's weapon level

I.e. For weapon upgrades, your NPC's actual level doesn't seem to matter much, but the other three conditions do. For Limit I, probably all four matter. The Promyvion escort probably requires a certain amount of affinity too.

Dropping your Signal Pearl is known to greatly decrease your NPC affinity, i.e. if you think like I do, it is a dropkick in the wrong direction if you intend to unlock any quests.

In other words, don't drop your Signal Pearl if you want anything new with your NPC.
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