Historical FF w/ Puppet MasterFollow

First thing I thought "this could be Mime", and that's where I'd put my gil.

*starts charging a Hadouken*



*stops* You got lucky.



Personally, having multiple puppets with multiple purposes just seems like such a solid choice for the job. Not quite Summoner, not quite Beastmaster. Pure ownage.

I was thinking about few possibiles.

PuppetMaster - Necromancer in some form (but SE's ways since they want to be very creative and dont copy same name from other games)

PuppetMaster - Engineer/Tank (Player would let Puppet to tanking the monsters as third tank job, but it can be curable unlike BST and Wvyren.)

PuppetMaster - Engineer/Mime (mimic other members' attacks and have their own skills)

I believe that Puppet might be call as Automucat or something (from pre-TOAU Quests. Wild Cat Quest)

Just a quick comment from what people in my Live Quest 'party' observed. They demod Puppetmaster to some extent in a BC fight. The master was engaged with a mage using that wierd magic ranged attack, and the puppet was doing sort of a throwing motion. We thought it might be that the puppet was mimicing the actions of Ajido, but this is pure conjecture. We could be completely wrong, but it would be an interesting twist.

/waves to Imrahil and his infamous mule.

We were there too (some of the few Caitsith people). You think it was mimicking Ajido-Marujido, eh? I didn't consider that but it's very possible... too bad the poor thing crapped out before we could see what it does.

Since you were there, you know that BLU and COR both fought solo, while for some reason they sent an invincible Puppetmaster in with a weak puppet and an invincible BLU to fight THREE heroes that a lvl 70 party of 6 (basic jobs) couldn't beat with ease. Overall the demo went really wrong, and the puppet was most likely supposed to be debugged to be invincible as well. But, it's obvious that it went in there with BLU for a reason: Puppetmaster is not a solo job, it needs to play off of another job. All signs point to mimicry and/or support.

If we assume Puppetmaster to be a take on Mime, then there are several FF's that feature Mime. FFV had it as a job after you beat the secret boss, Gogo. FFVI actually had Gogo as a playable character (SHOCK FTW!!!), Tactics had it as a special promotion job, and several of the new-age FF game has had some form of "Mimic" command or ability that could be obtained (you damn whipper-snappers and your free choice of commands!).

Mimicry has a very notable history in FF, and this does appear to be a Mime job. It's a puppet, and what do puppets do? What is their main purpose? To imitate a living being. They come to "life" by way of the puppetmaster's skill, and in essence, are merely acting out the role of a living being. It makes sense for it to be a mimic, if not both a mimic and a dummy.

Im putting my gill that Pupetmaster will be that mimic type job.

Oh and Cait Sith was the cat, he controled the mog with microphone by shouting orders. Thats why he shouts in it befor and phisical and magical attack.

And yes i do understand that Reeve controled them.

IMO, puppet master looks like the most appeling new job.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/03/12/h-103_49836_3pou0001.jpg.jpg

Um, yeah, I don't think thats the reason people are suspecting a mimic type ability. And it is possible, but no matter what is said here it dosent change what it will end up being.

People are saying that Cait Sith and Lulu aren't puppetmasters, but in fact, they are. A puppetmaster controls inanimate objects such as dolls, mannequins, calcobrenas (calcobrenae?), and toys.

Lulu: Controls inanimate objects(dolls) to attack enemies.

Cait Sith: Controlled by Reeve, which then uses a megaphone to control an inanimate object(oversized doll) to move and carry out actions.

Although they are both more towards black mage and gambler/corsair, respectively, there is no reason why they can't be puppetmasters also. Yuna, Dagger, and Eiko were Summoners and White mages. Terra in FFVI was a Morpher and Red Mage. Even Rosa was an Archer and White Mage. There are more examples, but I'll leave it at that.

but they had no specific "puppet master" abilities. Just because they control puppets doesn't mean that their job in BATTLE is a puppet master. They might fit the dictionary definition of a puppet master, but that doesn't make them one in game.

For example the dictionary defines a "Warrior" as "One who is engaged in or experienced in battle."

By definition EVERYONE in FFXI is a warrior, but the dictionary definition doesn't apply because in FFXI we refer to "warrior" as a specific job class, rather than using the broader, dictionary definition.

Cait Sith and Lulu are what we know in FFXI as a corsair, and a black mage (respectivly) though they may control puppets, they don't function as a "puppet master" in battle

Also those other characters you mentioned are indeed a fusion of two or more jobs, save for Terra as a morpher, a morpher is like a blue mage, except rather than gaining enemy skills one by one, they take on ALL the traits and abilities of individual monsters [see gau in FFVI, and the "morpher" class in FFTA]

Anyway those other characters you could consider to have "subjobs" Yuna was a smn/whm, Rosa is a whm/rng. this however does not apply to either cait sith, or lulu as they don't function as, or have any abilities of a puppetmaster in battle

Ahhhhh and who could forget

CALBRENA

Calbrena info

Another enemy from FFIV was

Marion

He'd summon Marionettes to do his bidding, much like a caller (Summoner)

An interesting idea. But Golbez didn't really summon those puppets, nor were they (at least directly) under his control. Closest thing to that is the fact that they served him, but they had a complete will of their own. The only real hint we have to Golbez's class is a possible Summoner, since when you fight him shortly after the Calbrena battle, he summons Orobouros/Shadow Dragon to pwn the party, which then is blown away by the more powerful Summoner Rydia in a semi-cutscene (maybe he was subbing it? =P). If anything, the closest thing to Puppetmastery in a previous FF is Cait Sith, though it's owner operated it long-distance, among the other large differences.

So in other words, we have the fact that puppets existed in FF previously, and some tenuous mimic theories.

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Where's my *** **** Geomancer? -_-

Edited, Thu Mar 16 19:09:20 2006 by Amleth

Edited, Thu Mar 16 19:10:51 2006 by Amleth

pupetmaster was from a game called ogre battle released by enix during the 90's for the snes. it also had beastmaster among other classes. these classes remind me more of enix than square games. it is just shows the synergy between two companies that merged - square-enix. some people say that ogre battle wasnt made by enix, but they are confusing ogrebattle with tactics ogre, a game released by atlus.

just google, enix, ogre battle.