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#1927 Feb 12 2007 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Earlier I posted from memory an article I remembered. I found the article in the "June 19th POL update" and would like to share it.
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Chocobo Breeds:
{Destrier}
These knightly mounts were bred in San d'Oria. They underwent training that allowed them to bear the weight of heavy armor and withstand the shock of cavalry charges. Destriers were characterized by their large, jet-black bodies and thick, powerful legs. With the decline of lance combat and improvements to ranged weaponry, destriers lost their place in battle to the faster coursers. These days, there are no remaining purebred destriers, but it is possible to see their proud bloodlines occasionally reemerge in the birth of rare, black chocobos.
{Courser}
The courser is a larger-than-average chocobo and is the most common breed found in the Kingdom of San d'Oria. They are characterized by their streamlined bodies, and long, graceful legs. They were originally bred for scouting duties, but their adoption into the military was accompanied by a general acceptance of the courser as an everyday mount. On extremely rare occasions, a red-colored courser will be born.
{Palfrey}
The mid-sized palfreys were bred to withstand the searing air and blazing heat of the desert. They are mainly raised in the Republic of Bastok and on Zepwell Island. With a relatively gentle demeanor, these chocobos are suited for those with who lack advanced riding skills. Palfreys are known to come in both blue and yellow.
{Jennet}
This breed of chocobo has been magically reduced in size to provide mounts for the diminutive Tarutaru. They have short legs when compared to other breeds, but like the Tarutaru themselves, jennets are capable of maintaining a rapid pace. Due to a request from the southern Mithra wishing to blend into the jungle, there are some jennets that can be found in a shade of green.
{Rounsey}
With its huge population of adventurers, Jeuno boasts more frequent use of chocobos than any other nation. The main type of chocobo to be found in the duchy is the mid-sized rounsey. The pride of the famous trainer Brutus and his family, the rounsey is the result of a lengthy breeding program involving wild chocobos. This program has produced a robust mount of somewhat unpredictable temperament that is suited for long, punishing treks.
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This is from POL and one of the FFXI updates so it is accurate and dependable (hopefully lol). Make of it what you like :-)
#1928 Feb 13 2007 at 2:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you outlaw for looking that up. As far as blue and digging go, it is the only one that says it is essentially not for speed which may leave digging?

The digging beak shows up at maturity, day 29. The ones I have were raised only for mental stats. The one I messed up on was my blue. I had a mental burp of my own and had it on basic care for its chick stage.

#1929 Feb 13 2007 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
can the ability Gallop make the chocobo go faster then then the rentals?
#1930 Feb 13 2007 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not sure about the running abilities. I think those may only come into play during chocobo racing.

I find out today if my bird is red or green or not. ><
#1931 Feb 14 2007 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, my bird grew up yesterday...and now it looks like this.

IT'S GREEN!! ^___^

And at Day 19, it has A bit deficient STR and END. Can hardly wait to see what it'll look like on Day 29.
#1932 Feb 15 2007 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone looked into the stats needed for digger beak or runner legs? If so what do you need for getting them?
#1933 Feb 16 2007 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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STR= Sturdier legs with bigger claws
END= Thicker tail feathers
DIC= Larger beak

I don't know if REC effects any physical features.

I believe that to get any of these extra features you have to have the matching stat at Average or more by day 29 when they become an adult. My female black was raised for physical stats and she had both the strong legs and thick tail feathers when she grew up.
#1934 Feb 16 2007 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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My bird's STR and END are both at A bit deficient as of Day 21 (Day 22 now). I'm guessing that she'll have either the sturdier legs or the extra plumage. Can you get both of those attributes or just one? Like can you have both extra plumage and sturdier-looking legs if both your bird's STR and END are Average by Day 29, or do you just get one of the two?
#1935 Feb 17 2007 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
Yes, if both strenth & endurance are average or better by day29 your bird will have both attributes, xtra tail feathers & larger legs/feet.
#1936 Feb 17 2007 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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GimliNL wrote:
First class strengt = Rental speed. You cant get a faster choco than that.


Actually, you can get higher than first-class speed if you keep raising it after it hits first-class. It works sort of like crafting ranks. You can be a 'low' Amateur rank or a 'high' Amateur rank depending on your skill. First-class chocobos raised for longer are minimally faster than First-class chocobos retired right after they hit First-Class.

Rental seems to be base First-Class. I've outrun rental chocobos on my First-Class+ chocobo but the controls weren't great. If someone would like to do a more empirical study and prove me wrong, please be my guest. I raised my chocobo for over 2 weeks past the time it hit First-Class. (I just stood by rental chocobo guy and ran when the person on the rental ran and got ahead of them... like I said, not a great setup).

Please feel free to prove me wrong, but let's see some evidence.

Nez
(edit: hmm... it was black, too... that might have made a difference)

Edited, Feb 17th 2007 2:13pm by Nezzi
#1937 Feb 19 2007 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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To restate colors on chicks.

Colors of tips at adolescense are the color of the Adult choco except for yellow. If you have white tips it will be yellow.

White by the way is usually a muddy white but not dark like the race choco. If you have doubts about it being yellow or black compare your chick, critically, with the race chick who is black.

The chances of getting a different colored chick than yellow from a bought or quested egg is pretty much nil. Sure you can but do you want to raise that many chicks on the off chance of getting a colored chick?

Ask your friends for cards from colored chicks or buy them from bazaars if you don't want yellow over and over. You will save yourself a lot of grief and time.

#1938 Feb 19 2007 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
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About Parasite Worms.- Its been reported (iirc) that this can change the personality of the chocobo after young stage (that otherwise wont change) or that sometimes will lower your stats, but can actually 'erase' your chocobo abilities?

Im asking this because Ive recently raised one chocobo with an ability I didnt want so being able to erase them would be quite nice to raise a chocobo better.

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About speed maybe it was a hack but once I picked a rental from Jeuno and a chocobo (it was a yellow chocobo) out-runned me, Im sure because I tried to follow him and it went out of range after a bit.
#1939 Feb 21 2007 at 2:16 AM Rating: Good
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Can somebody who has lots of experience with breeding do a little guide write up for this (who to go to? What kind of plans there are and what they do, etc, etc).

I will @ this write up in the OP (ofcourse you be credited for your work ^^)
#1940 Feb 21 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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My bird's on Day 27 right now (will be growing up on Friday night). I had it on the "Exercise Alone" plan for three days after it became an adolescent (so figure until Day 22 or so) and then moved it to the Carry Packages plan. It's STR went up to Average on Day 23, and I'm hoping that its END will hit Average within the next 3 days. I'd love to have that extra plumage. XD

Compared to my last bird which I raised the same way, its attributes are going up a LOT faster. My last bird didn't hit Average STR until about day 35 or so (and I was using the exact same plans, feeding my last bird only Vomp carrots, keeping it at max affection).

I plan on retiring my current bird when it hits First Class STR and END or whenever its extreme growing period is over (that's what? Around day 60 or so?)
#1941 Feb 22 2007 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes! Bird hit Average END yesterday, so when she grows up tomorrow she'll have the junk in the trunk plumage. ^^

I'm surprised at how quickly her stats are going up. At this rate, I'll be at first class probably before Day 45 since I seem to be getting 1-2 skill ups a week.

So Celeste will be an ugly green bird with big claws and big feathers. Will post screenshots once I have some.
#1942 Feb 22 2007 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Mozyr wrote:
Yes! Bird hit Average END yesterday, so when she grows up tomorrow she'll have the junk in the trunk plumage. ^^

I'm surprised at how quickly her stats are going up. At this rate, I'll be at first class probably before Day 45 since I seem to be getting 1-2 skill ups a week.

So Celeste will be an ugly green bird with big claws and big feathers. Will post screenshots once I have some.


SE changed the speed of grown of chocobos in the update were red and green chocobo colors were intruduced. Now you can 'cap' at first class at around 40 days more or less with good care, maybe a bit faster.
#1943 Feb 22 2007 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Interesting. I didn't know that. I just figured that the STR/END stats were going up faster since both parents were at First Class STR/Outstanding END when I got cards from them.

I'll probably keep raising those stats on this bird through its rapid-growing phase. I made the mistake of switching over to Digging for Treasure on my last bird so I could get the two abilities I wanted. That wound up bringing its STR down to Average (I think it was at Outstanding before it started going down. :/), which really sucked. I raised it until around day 120 or so (had about a week left before auto-retirement), but from Day 60 onwards even though my bird was at max affection, and I was feeding it Vomp carrots, and had it on the Deliver Messages plan, its stats never increased. ;_;
#1944 Feb 22 2007 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
Can you possibly go into negative stats? If thats not possible I guess I could get some really nice stats if you keep to the right plans. :)
#1945 Feb 23 2007 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
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You can't get more negative than 'poor'. But since 'poor' consists of a range of scores, if you keep doing plans that reduce an attribute, you will likely reduce it all the way to zero.

Just thought I'd mention that you can't rely on the Kamp Kweh mating prediction to tell you ahead of time what color one of your chicks are by looking at what color they look like as parents in the cs (note - I'm not talking about predicting the color of the egg; just the color of your chick as one of the parents). I was hoping my chick was going to be black, but was worried when in the mating cs they show him grown into an adult yellow. But he turned out black after all. Otherwise this would have been a quick way to know colors before they even got to the teen stage.

Interestingly, my yellow male and a friend's black female were shown to have a black egg by the cs when we had done it a while back, but my friend swears his cs showed them having a yellow chick (we both raised eggs from this pairing, and both are now black with a learned ability 'Canter' from the father, and both have the same personality). My original yellow male has also been shown in some pairings to produce a green offspring, as has my current black chick, so it's probably carrying a green gene as well.

Finally, those who've never done Kamp Kweh should give it a try. I don't know if it's because my choco has been 'bright and focused' a lot lately, but every single time its played with another choco this week its gotten an attribute boost. The kind seems pretty random though - rec, dic, str, rec, end
#1946 Feb 23 2007 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't done Kamp Kweh yet, but my bird's STR just went up to Better than Average last night (Day 28).

There are a few people on my LS who have birds that will be maturing over the weekend, so we might all party up and go to Kamp Kweh sometime to see what it's like.

Waiting to log on tonight so I can have my full grown ugly l'il green bird!
#1947 Feb 23 2007 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's my WinterParfait's family tree :)

Mother: Yellow with empasis on STR & END (bought egg)
Father: Black with empasis on STR & END (Thank you Lilf - not sure if bought or ISNM)

WinterParfait was born with poor in all stats but her STR & END increased quite rapidly as compared to when raising WinterOrchidee (her mom).

WinterParfait was a chilled out chick but a day before she hit her teens, I was told she would be suitable for the military. Also, she likes clear weather.

As a chick, I fed her Vegetable Pastes and threw in an occasional Vomp Carrot when I ran out of pastes w....

Oh yea....since I want to concentrate on STR & END for now, WinterParfaits care schedule has been Walk around Town - Basic Care - Walk around Town - Basic Care on a 7-2-7 care schedule when she was a chick. As a teen, it will be Exercise Alone - Basic Care - Exercise in a Group - Basic Care on another 7-2-7-2 care schedule (do I sound like a terrible parent? w)

*I need to check the stats and some info I noted down, etc and I'll post more when I am back home after work*

#1948 Feb 23 2007 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Finally, those who've never done Kamp Kweh should give it a try. I don't know if it's because my choco has been 'bright and focused' a lot lately, but every single time its played with another choco this week its gotten an attribute boost. The kind seems pretty random though - rec, dic, str, rec, end


Playing with others at Kamp Kweh is indeed benificial! The Stat increase you get isn't as random as you think. Past experimenting seems to show that your chick will get a Stat increase of the Stat that the chick you choose to play with is highest in! It learns from the bird it plays with! So check a chicks stats prior to selecting to play with it and be sure it's highest in the Stat you want. Also Age doesn't seem to matter so selecting to play with an older bird with good stats works best. Also you don't always get a Stat increase and I've found that you only get at most one increase a day (RT) from visiting Kamp Kweh. Please take the comments I made here as meaning "most of the time" as a lot of this Chocobo Raising has a bit of randomness to it.
#1949 Feb 24 2007 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
I just began chocobo raising a few days ago, on day 6 I believe.

I read the first 5 pages of this thread and the last 2 and did not see any mention of an activity my chocobo has been displaying. During the CS for the short walk outside of town, there is a twinkling spot on the ground, and the next time I watch over my bird, I recieve an item he found (once a pebble, next a Quadav Backplate).

I planned on raising my first bird with emphasis on STR and END, however, I was wondering, is that since finding items is most similar to digging/treasure hunting, should I instead try to center his care around mental attributes to increase results?

From what I have read it seems that I could still train and feed to increase STR/END, but this seems counter-productive if he is more naturally inclined to be a digger. Any comments/suggestions welcome, and thanks to all the people who took the time to give great info in this thread.
#1950 Feb 24 2007 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Finding stuff on walks is a new thing. :D Don't know if it has any bearing on stats or abilities.

If you go to around pages 13 or so there is lot of information on choco raising. Honestly it is worth reading the whole thing but theres some pretty good info in that area.

I have a question.

Has anyone looked into the idea of how to get rid of abilites? Someone mentioned recently that gregarious worm works but has anyone had any experience and further information on that?

Please share if you do! Don't want to have to raise a replacement for this chick. /cry

#1951 Feb 24 2007 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone looked into the idea of how to get rid of abilites? Someone mentioned recently that gregarious worm works but has anyone had any experience and further information on that?


Susan, I have heard, like you in this thread, mention of removing an ability with the "Greg. Worm" but haven't seen any proof of it myself or personally know anyone who was able to do this. It would indeed be benificial to be able to remove an ability at times but to the best of my knowledge (and I'm always learning something new) once you get an ability either by learning it or inheriting it you are stuck with it and also are limited to only 2 abilities total. If anyone has FIRST HAND experiance positive of a way to remove an ability please let us know. However, if you know someone who says they did it or if you only think you might have done it please don't foster an unfounded rumor. We really need good solid info that has been tested and proven. With that said everyone please share any ideas or thoughts but be sure they are expressed as being just ideas or thoughts. After all thats how we get to the proof positive of things :-)
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To the person asking about finding things and wondering if his chick may be inclined to DIGGING because of it. Like Susan said, that was added in a receint update and ALL Chocobos now find these things. I personally think FFXI realized that they had made the Chocobo Raising experiance too expensive for New Players (and some long time players) and put this feature in to offset the cost. I don't think there is any more meaning to it than that. I was very surprised after finding a few pebbles which were almost worthless to have my bird present me with an "ADAMAN ORE" (spelling?) which promply sold for 100,000 Gil!!! I see the price has come down on it now to around 20k so I guess mine wasn't the only bird finding this stuff and supply and demand brought the price down. Still a Quadav Backplate or other item that sells for a respectable amount will allow someone on a budget to afford to feed his bird better quality food!
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