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i need from square something it will help stop more GIL BUYER

i cant give good sentence but please give me chance


some itmes dont need to bu it with high price

Check LV1 armor you will see what i mean some itmes 35k or more 80k

how can new plyer buy new itmes... he start with 1k or 3k i dont realyrember

the sword cost 1k or 2k so after that he play with gears lv1 to 7 or someitme 10.. i meet new player in valkrum DUnes whit his gear lv1

i ask him why you wear this colthes he answer:will i dont know any friend now
and still search in web site to read about craft ,what i want to say

what do you think he will do if he feel need Gil.. buy gil for easy thing


they need to make geras from LV1 to 10.9 price cant anyone sell it more then SE say it

let me say as example : BODY LV3 DEF:2 VIT+1 price 5k at least

this from my opinion will give GS hard time

This special-ops force is the best news I've seen yet.

It should be fairly straight-forward... SE creates characters, levels them a bit, does some missions, makes them appear to be legit players. Eventually, SE should make their players buy gil.

At this point, SE should NOT hit the ban switch... instead, they should allow their characters to continue buying gil... this will help solidify their reputations -- street cred -- and allow them to expose the greater web of RMT. Once they have digital proof of the gilselling network, THEN hit the ban switch!

Ban them all!!!!!!!!!

As another poster said, I wouldn't care if the bans took out half the server populations.

RMT change the dynamics of the entire game. They have endless time to devote to camping NMs, crafting, farming items, etc. It's an advantage over every single honest player. They probably get away with breaking the rules more often too, because they're sitting next to each other in warehouses in China and don't have to communicate in party chat (think I'm kidding? This has been extensively covered in print, television and electronic media).

Oh, and one more thing... for SE to begin selling gil is a TERRIBLE IDEA. Terrible, as in probably the worst idea I've ever heard. It makes no sense. It would put people like me who don't have a lot of extra money, who pay our own bills, college debts, car payments, rent etc., at a disadvantage to teenagers who throw around their parents' credit cards. I'm sorry, but that's the most retarded idea in the history of retarded ideas.

Just ban the RMT, and, whenever possible, take out the gil buyers, too. Then everyone's on equal footing.

It seems so. It's not completely accurate though. I see someone on the list who is not a GS, but he was listed on this website because he was in a party that was being powerleveled by a known GS. To be fair, they didn't list him as a GS....just as someone who was in a party that was powerleveled by a known GS.

you see i can understand how people can say yeah he is probably making a mule and getting him fame to do quests then deleting mule and restarting but i will tell you one thing shejoog for the past 3 months has had mea scrolls on the AH EVERY SINGLE DAY! there was never a day that there was not a mea scroll that was sold by him in the AH so tell me somebody would have to be at the game nonstop with no restroom breaks and no time to eat no time to work or go to school he would have to be constantly play XI just to be able to pull that and like i said its like seeing scrolls fill in there like water believe me i dont think its possible unless this person NEVER SLEEPS! also he would have to have even more time cause he has multiple warp II spells and i believe dem spells so can you really sit there and tell me he is doing this the legit way

Edited, Nov 8th 2006 at 10:54pm PST by XMegadeathX

Could be the seller is the mule of a group of RMTers that are going for sky. The characters being leveled up could all get the scroll and send it to the mule for selling, rather than go all the way to a suitable AH. Doesn't make perfect sense though, as getting the scrolls already requires some traveling around.

I would just like to point out that banning gil buyers is likely to be far more effective in the long run then banning sellers could ever be. The sellers have a significant economic incentive to start over when banned and while they will indeed take a hit from it they will always be back because there is money to be made. Gil buyers on the other hand risk losing both whatever RL money they have spent purchasing their gil, the cost of the game itself and it's expansions as well as all progress made within the game including all items.

If SE can provide even a decent probability of people being banned for gil buying (ie 25%+ chance of banning for example) then this would make taking part in RMT a huge risk for the individual, one that would disuade many from participating in RMT I am sure. One of the keys here will be extensive transaction and account analysis, but this type of analytics is honestly pretty trivial.

Dear SE Special Task force.

Take a look at who's selling the most nebimonites on each server. Here's 5 for you:

Amonitesu - Asura
Kmoniteuj - Kujata
Cmoniteai - Caitsith
Bmoniteah - Bahamut
Vmoniteal - Valefor

Notice something? Something... FISHY?

Thanks in advance (I hope they're really reading this >.>) It's not too hard to find this happening in several other items as well.

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 6:04am PST by Enyyx

The best I could tell, this is what he was talking about. A lot of new people don't realize that you can buy a lot of low level gear and spells from NPCs, rather than the AH. Actually sometimes I think a lot of veteran players don't know this as well, or they are just lazy. Either way, I used to make a decent living off importing/exporting, until I found greener pastures elsewhere.

To stay on topic, I have a few suggestions to toss in:

1. Shorten re-pop times on the NMs/HNMs that are camped so heavily. I don't mean something like VE, that pops relatively fast to begin with. I mean the ones that are on outrageous timers, that only RMT conceivably have time to wait on day after day.

2. Add a timer that prevents players from re-claiming an NM/HNM they've gotten the desired(non-rare/ex) drop from recently. Lets say x NM pops once every 6 hours, and someone claims it, and gets the drop. The timer would prevent them from being able to fight it, and receive the drop again for say 48 hours. If they claim it, but don't get the drop, then they would be allowed to reclaim it again, until they do. This shouldn't pose a huge problem for legit players, because they aren't expecting to get the drop as often as game mechanics allow, as the 24/7 campers do.

This may not be the perfect solution, but it does level the playing field. RMT can't monopolize these monsters if they can't claim them each time they pop. Adjusting drop rates on some items might not be a bad idea either, but not to the point where it makes obtaining the best gear in the game, too simple.

3. Adjust the amount of materials available at guilds each day, but also adjust how much of it one person can purchase. Perhaps guild rank should actually affect how much you can buy from the guild, rather than just having a set amount available to everyone on the server, per day.

4. How about establishing set prices on the AH? What I mean here is prevent people from either jacking prices up by huge amounts, or undercutting significantly. Base the minimum and maximum price on the average cost in the price history. Whatever the average is, make the amount that it can be raised or lowered by a seller something like 10%. Newly introduced items would not be affected for a while after becoming available, to allow a stable price to be established. If someone bids way too high, allow the bid to go through for that amount, but make it show up in the price history as what it was listed for. This would prevent items from increasing or decreasing in value too fast, thus making the economy more stable.

Also the price history should be automatically adjusted, maybe once every week or so. This is to prevent a person or group with a lot of gil from abusing the system, by trying to manipulate prices through their buying power. The key thing here, is that competition is a good thing, but there needs to be some sort of regulation to ensure that it always remains healthy.

Allow me to play devil's advocate.... :)



If RMT teams have multiple high level characters at their disposal, it could be very easy for them to simply cycle teams through the various NMs/HNMs, thereby circumventing this. On the other hand, legitimate players who might need drops for multiple members would be penalized unless they had the human capital to do the same.



I'm pretty sure that they already have high level crafters, so this would ultimately only penalize legitimate players as well (particularly new crafters).



If someone had enough gil and people who were willing to play along, they could still manipulate prices. RMT would still have the advantage here.

I don't mean to be too negative. I just wanted to share my thoughts even though I may be wrong. :)

You're telling me someone reasonable (and by someone reasonable, I mean someone who takes time out to go to work/school, sleep, eat, and have a minimal social life outside the game) can aquire 16 Teleport Mea scrolls, as well as many Dem, Warp, Warp II, Blaze Spikes, Utsusemi and all those other expensive scrolls?

I understand that they may have been burning a hole in his Mog safe, but cmon, 16 times? And that's just what's listed in the most recent 20 on the AH. If you watch those scrolls, teleport-mea especially, you will see that the guy I pointed out sells them constantly.

That doesn't raise up ANY red flags to you people? None whatsoever? People **** and moan about end game, Ulli, Sky and all that fun stuff, but RMT isn't just subject to you level 75s. They kill the game for the rest of us too.

And I suppose someone is gonna tell me the fishing bot I see constantly in Windy is just a regular player, right? Everytime I wave to him on my mule, he logs out. Does that sound like regular behavior to you?

I thought about this, but I really have no solution to work around it. I guess it depends on just how organized these groups are. Just because two people are involved in RMT, doesn't mean that they work for the same company, or even like each other. At best this will force the smaller, less organized groups out, so that SE can focus on the larger ones.



Not really. Guild bots are already buying up all the highly desired items, as soon as the guild opens. Occasionally legit players get lucky, but mostly it's the same people buying day after day. Allowing every player to purchase a set amount per day, can only help matters here. And if someone is a level 100 smith, you're damn right they should have more available to them, than someone who has 0 skill, and just wants to resell the materials to legitimate crafters at inflated prices.



I adressed that in my post, but maybe I didn't explain my idea well enough. The system would automatically adjust prices on a regular basis. Lets say someone decides to use their buying power to either drive prices up or down. If they are An average of the five selling prices, closest to the initial set price, would be done, and the set starting price for next week would reflect this.

It would be a waste of gil to manipulate prices, only for them to end up being around what they were when you started. In the long term you could make a difference in the prices, however you're going to end up spending far more in taxes than it's worth.



No problem there. You brought up good points.

I admit, it needs a lot of work, and in the end SE can probably come up with something much better. I'm just offering a starting place, not an ultimate, perfect solution.