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#127 Apr 01 2008 at 2:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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-.- so they send us an e-mail, making us think they are actually looking into it, an then they tell you this.. I didn't call since I got that e-mail on Thursday last week. I really don't see how they can say "It's not logical.." the whole way they have handled this situation top to bottom is illogical. I'm not sure how many accounts have been banned like ours have, but in my opinion it's nothing but logical to provide service for your customers when it's a lack of their preventive measures that could have stopped this whole thing (I don't need to be lectured about how the one time I logged onto a PC is was keylogged, thus making it my fault)

Logical. Logical would be to return these accounts as quick as they can because accounts = money. Again maybe it's just me and the OP but I doubt it, maybe I'm the only one who really didn't do what they accused me of (rmt) but I doubt that too. Logical is customer service, logical is doing what's right because it's not that hard really. The only logical reason not to give these accounts back is for fear of releasing rmt back into the system, I'm not a rmt so there is no risk. I won't go into the millions of reason why it's ridiculously obvious I'm not a rmt, but it is.

Logic, that went out the window 3 months ago when they banned me to begin with, if this was happening why didn't they stop it, or at least look into it when i called the customer service the day I was hacked and was told "We don't deal with anything in game." Illogical, irresponsible, and with a total disregard for it's customers much more accurately describes the way SE is dealing with this. Sad..

At this point I'm not sure I even want to come back. Realistically SE doesn't deserve a dime of my money. But it's like being accused of a crime I didn't commit, I'm right so I want things to be set straight.
#128 Apr 01 2008 at 2:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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The thing that really bothers me is getting my account back is not all about me. It's about my LS and friends that worked just as hard as I did to get help my gear, quests and jobs leveled.

FFXI is not just about one person. I am sure most of you realize to get anything meaningful done it takes a group effort.

So not only am I out my account but everyone who ever helped me develop my character is out from any help that could offer them in return.

It's just not right.

I have been playing on a new character since I lost my account but if I cannot get my old account restored I think it may be time re-evaluate my time spent playing FFXI. I really do love the game but the support is so horrid. What if something happens and I lose my new character too? Am I expected to start over a 3rd time?

I was looking forward to leveling my BST tonight but I think I will pass. My motivation is gone.
#129 Apr 01 2008 at 3:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah I totally get where you're coming from. This was my first character and I can't imagine starting over, even once. I made some friends along the way and if I do decide, assuming I get my account back, to keep playing they are no doubt the reason why.

I personally can't see why they would even keep up the charade if they had no intention of returning the accounts. It's been a long time and any effort, as minimal as it may be, costs them time and money. I was told they will investigate and if they find it wasn't me in control of my account at the time whatever it was happened, I'll get it back. Unless they are totally inept at what they do, when they finally do get around to looking at it I'm sure it will be pretty obvious. And as far as the e-mail I received, I'm probably totally off here, but again why put forth any effort at all if they didn't plan on at least looking into it.

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but I assumed the e-mail meant there's a good chance they will be looking into it soon. The information they asked for (time, zone I was in etc.) had already been given to them, so if they don't plan on using it am I just to expect another one of these e-mails? Doesn't make sense to me, although not much of this does. I'll give them a week and call again.

#130 Apr 02 2008 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dear Customer,

Please contact the PlayOnline Information Center for further assistance
with your account. We ask that you have the following information
ready when you contact us. It is understandable that you may not have
everything requested below, however please have the information that you
have provided in past conversations with the PlayOnline Information
Center.

Name:
DoB:
Address:
PlayOnline Registration code:
First 4 and last 4 digits of the credit card:
Confirmation number of receipt of this email: XXXXXXXXXXXX

Thank you

Note: Please do not reply to this email. For all questions or concerns
relating to this matter please contact the PlayOnline Information
Center by chat or phone.

Just got this e-mail this morning. Information center opens in about 20 mins.
#131 Apr 02 2008 at 8:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Possibly they are done with your account investigation?
#132 Apr 02 2008 at 8:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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YouPickMyName wrote:
Dear Customer,

Please contact the PlayOnline Information Center for further assistance
with your account. We ask that you have the following information
ready when you contact us. It is understandable that you may not have
everything requested below, however please have the information that you
have provided in past conversations with the PlayOnline Information
Center.

Name:
DoB:
Address:
PlayOnline Registration code:
First 4 and last 4 digits of the credit card:
Confirmation number of receipt of this email: XXXXXXXXXXXX

Thank you

Note: Please do not reply to this email. For all questions or concerns
relating to this matter please contact the PlayOnline Information
Center by chat or phone.

Just got this e-mail this morning. Information center opens in about 20 mins.


Usually this means your account will be returned. I am hoping it all goes well!!

Let us know.
#133 Apr 02 2008 at 8:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just got off the phone, my account has been returned {/joy}. Hang in there man seems that e-mail they sent last week means they are indeed looking into it, and what Richard told you is pretty much useless info. If you didn't do anything wrong then you should be fine, no worries. Took them forever, but at least they got it right. I'm pullin for ya, hope everything works out cause this has been pretty horrible. Good luck.
#134 Apr 02 2008 at 8:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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WOW! Awesome. I am very happy for you.

What sever are you on? If your on Valefor I will shoot some fireworks off for you.

EDIT: lol I am checking my email every 5 minutes now looking for my letter :) Must focus on work.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2008 1:03pm by CyrUrgit
#135 Apr 02 2008 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
YouPickMyName wrote:
Just got off the phone, my account has been returned {/joy}. Hang in there man seems that e-mail they sent last week means they are indeed looking into it, and what Richard told you is pretty much useless info. If you didn't do anything wrong then you should be fine, no worries. Took them forever, but at least they got it right. I'm pullin for ya, hope everything works out cause this has been pretty horrible. Good luck.


Gratz YouPickMyName on getting back your account! Hope this wasn't just an accident on SE side and more accounts will be returned soon. Looking forward to an email like that in my own account but nothing so far. Oh well. Been waiting since the end of December. I guess a few days more or less don't really matter anymore.
#136 Apr 02 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually yeah I am on Valefor. Obaseki is my character. Is your main also on that server? Waiting for the update to finish but I'll be on in about 2 hours maybe.

I also gave them within a 7 hour window of when my account was hacked, which could be why they finished mine pretty fast (fast from last week, start to finish they were slow lol). But I can't see them taking too much longer. It makes sense that they sent that e-mail last week because they planned on looking into it soon, so just a matter of time.

Hope you get yours real soon, cause last month would have still been too long.
#137 Apr 02 2008 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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Cool I will look for you tonight. I will be leveling BST. Blitzing to 75 so I can lot Osode in a few weeks. My new characters name is Tigrumi. I will flist you when I get on.
#138 Apr 08 2008 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Another Tuesday update...

Today I got Terrance again. I re-summed up my situation with him and and he told me he didn't see any reason why my account would not be returned. That Japan was just being slow. He said he remembered taking my initial call a long time ago and thought my case was as solid as could be.

So that's cool.

I asked him about Richard and asked if he was a manager - he quickly said no and said that was just his personality. That's good because I was worried last week.

So again another non update in the quest to get my character back.

I hope everyone in the same situation as me does get some sort of satisfaction soon.

I am tempted to send a few formal letters to SE about this situation - who knows it may help speed things up.
#139 Apr 08 2008 at 10:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Find some of the shareholders addresses >.>
#140 Apr 09 2008 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I hope you get your account back CyrUrgit, I'm having the same luck as you however. I sadly have to go through a friend to get my account back, we started on the same account, he quit and gave it to me ect. And i'm having a problem of getting him to move on taking action. But with hopes it will all be over soon, as i'm starting to get really bored.
#141 Apr 09 2008 at 7:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was really hoping, seeing as how I got mine back, that you guys would have gotten yours back. Not sure why it's taking them so long, but I do know they are doing something, so just hang in there :( I narrowed it down to a pretty small time frame so maybe that's why it didn't take as long for mine. I can't see it taking more than another week or two, so don't want to get your hopes up but I would expect something in the not so distant future.

Keep callin' like ya do and bugging them. They will give it back eventually. Good luck guys!
#142 Apr 11 2008 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Another week passed and no luck here, anyone else have better luck?
#143 Apr 11 2008 at 9:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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silverdevil wrote:
Another week passed and no luck here, anyone else have better luck?


Still on hold for my boyfriend's account. SE collected some information from him after he was sent an email stating his character was banned and required further investigation.

It's been about three weeks now and no word from them.
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#144 Apr 12 2008 at 9:21 AM Rating: Excellent
Wow.... I just read this thread, the entire thread. Every post.

I'm have truly been on the edge of my seat with every post, awaiting the news of the accounts of the main two posters here, CyrUrgit and YouPickMyName. You guys have to be two of the most patient and positive thinking people I've come across. Your positive attitude, resilience and continued patience amazes me with each new post.

My own account had not been compromised, and for that I am grateful. But Cyr and YPMN, you both are an inspiration to everyone, whether it be those who've lost accounts, recovered accounts, or never even heard of a MMORPG.

I was so sad to get to the end to still see no resolution yet for Cyr. I will be continuing to read this thread and hope for your account recovery process completion.

FFXI needs more people like you playing this game. SE should take one look at this thread and find it obvious, restore your account, and send you a framed letter of apology.

Best wishes to all of you! I'll be here reading this forum, and cheering you on. Smiley: yippee
#145 Apr 12 2008 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
O.o one week to several months to have compromised accounts returned?! That's utterly ridiculous - FFXI was not the only MMO hit by the influx of keyloggers on gaming sites; yet FFXI is the only MMO to claim it will take months to have accounts returned.

A guildmate in WoW had his account compromised via keylogger - one night he logs, minutes later returns online; yet refuses to respond to any tells. An officer in guild happens to be at guild bank noticing the compromised character withdrawing large amounts of items and gold - immediately removes bank access to this character. The next day the actual owner checks his email to see a notification from Blizzard indicating that his account password had been changed, he calls Blizzard to inform them he did not change his password - they verify his contact details and previous password, then reset password to something new of his choosing. After this, he logs in to find the majority of his gold and items gone - places an in-game GM call to report the issue.

At this point Blizzard began their character restoration process - he was asked to provide approximate details of his characters items/gold. Within a few hours of this, his account was temporarily disabled while Blizzard went through their logs. Once they had confirmed the account was compromised and followed the trail of items/gold his account was restored, however, it was necessary to fax photo ID as one final proof of identification before his account was once again activated.

Time to complete - six days, and yes this was over a weekend.

Simply unbelievable that SE is so utterly unprepared and incompetent when it comes to issues of account security. Hiding behind a blanket statement that all account related issues are the responsibility of the account holder only goes so far until the bulk of your customer base lose confidence in a company entirely. Many of these accounts were reported compromised Oct-Dec of last year ... ~7 months for some, and still they are being told to wait an addition few months. Just how many of these people does SE think will really return at this point, knowing full well should their account magically be returned, all gil/items will be lost, and there's an extremely high probability that their account will once again be banned with random nondescript reason x.

Much rather invest my time and monthly fee's into a competent company.
#146 Apr 15 2008 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I made my typical Tuesday call. I got Kathy (I think that was it). She didn't want to listen anything I had to say. Very cut and dry - "We asked you for info, you gave it, now you wait."

I had actually asked if she could forward this thread to her supervisor and she said if it was important and on a fan site that they already knew all about it and there was no need to forward anything to anyone.

So yeah - kinda bad update but what are you going to do.

I think I might change the the title of this thread a little. Maybe SE will spot it. Not that I think it will do any good but they should read about people stuck in their process and maybe find ways to improve it.

Also I am surpised with how many people that lost their accounts more people are not posting about it. If you are in the account restoration process please post on this thread. I am just curious to see how many of us are out there.
#147 Apr 15 2008 at 10:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Had two accounts, got one back - others been in a loophole for 5months now.
#148 Apr 15 2008 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Still stuck in the loop here, on month 3 now. starting to lose faith in SE, I might just move to WoW or stop playing online games all together. Anyhow I wish the rest of you good luck and hope you get your accounts back soon.
#149 Apr 15 2008 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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I got hacked December 6th and I have gone through all the steps and call every week. I'm still stuck waiting.

What really pisses me off is that I paid $30 dollars for the expansion and I didn't even get to play a week. If I don't get my account returned, I would have to repurchase everything to keep playing.

Every week when I call I love asking: What amount of time do you believe is an unacceptable amount to wait for a returned account?

Some refuse to answer this question. I know when my 4 month reaches the 6 month mark, the "all you can do is wait" line will still be given even though it sounds absurd.

Every week I also ask to speak with a manager, and each time they check, but he is always busy.

#150 Apr 15 2008 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
Just called SE(well webchat actually) and asked if they got any updates on my account. The SER talked to one of the ICS(The ICS I've been bugging for months now. Whenever the ICR or SER can't give me a decent answer I tell them to ask their superior) and was told that they started a 2nd investigation during the middle of last week and if I don't hear from them until the end of this week I should call them again. I asked if I should expect another 3 months til they tell me they are on their <sarcasm on> on 3rd investigation <sarcasm off> and he told me it shouldn't take much longer now. I really hope something good comes out of this new investigation.

Anyway I was told that the investigations regarding banned accounts take place in Japan. This is the case for Japanese and American accounts. I don't have any idea if this applies to EU accounts as well but I really doubt that.

Twigster wrote:

What really pisses me off is that I paid $30 dollars for the expansion and I didn't even get to play a week. If I don't get my account returned, I would have to repurchase everything to keep playing.


Something similar happened to me as well. Living in Germany but had to get the US version of the expansion. Took Playasia more than a months til it finally arrived at my home. Unfortunately my account was banned 2 days prior to the arrival of the expansion. Didn't get a chance to play it at all. At that time I really thought it would only take a few days to get the account back but that has turned into 3 1/2 months now ;;

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 5:03pm by CaldorDarkKnight
#151 Apr 15 2008 at 2:35 PM Rating: Good
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Im guessing that Im one of the lucky ones then. I got hacked in the middle of March and called and sent the notary form and everything as soon as I could and I got my account back on April 9th. I was in the middle of a move so I wasnt able to actually log in until a few days ago though. When I got back on of course I changed the password to something long and confusing and I went to change all the member info also cause I had a new address. The hacker changed all of that info though to some address in Reno they didnt put their name instead they just switched my first and last name around. Luckily they didnt even take alot of my stuff from my characters maybe 500k at the most. I dont get why I got my account back faster than the people who got theirs taken so long ago though.
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