The unfairness of mog bonanza towards PS2 playersFollow

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no where, at all did it say the moogle's numbers were RANDOM. all it said was



In all honesty I think this is more of a mistake than some bullsh*t conspiracy like some SE haters are claiming.

*edit* I have one duplicate marble set, but not on the same character. meh.

Edited, Jul 1st 2008 1:32pm by Lienna

To the person that asked about a lot of people seem to be only being one number off, that's simple math. There are roughly 45 numbers that are "1 digit off" of the grand prize (9 other chances in those 5 different positions). There is a lot higher chance of having one of those 45 combos then the 1 winning combo.

I have a question, as I'm not even close to a programmer. Yet, why would the number generator have a formula? Why not just create random numbers regardless?

I mean, if I'm adjusting code (or w/e they needed to do) and I'm coming up with a way for the numbers to be picked by the moogle, it would seem completely obvious to make it as random as possible.

It seems to me that you'd try to get as far away as possible from any kind of pattern.

I'm sure there is a reason, but I can't think of one.


edit: I fail at english, typing and spelling.

Edited, Jul 1st 2008 3:10pm by TrotterOfSylph

thats why I think it was jsut some bumbling mistake, they may have been doing something clever and didnt do it right, thus skewing the numbers the moogles handed out.

Oh, give me a break. You act like it takes a ****** rocket scientist to see that there's obviously been foul play going on here.



Yeah, something "clever". Uh-huh.

Kiss-***.

IMO I think they were trying to do something clever and ****** it up. Who cares about cheating people out of a few thousand gil? One thing I do know about SE thats true with any other MMO company and that is they want money. They liked the monthly fee they got from all those fresh content IDs whether it was from PS2 or PC subscribers. I would say that is the real reason for this bonanza with a side order of hoping to bolster the dwindling economy some by putting back some of the gil they have been removing.

There isn't anything "clever" about a RNG. At least not anymore. At least there isn't supposed to be.

Maybe a few decades ago, it would be some pretty high-tech stuff.




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I'm not afraid to speak the truth, even if I know people don't like to hear it.

If only it really was.

Interesting. Anyone else got that?

This is what I cant figure out...they are all on the same servers as the rest of us. Perhaps it has to do with the PS2 itself? something somehwat common in creating a program that will generate a random number is using the CPU clock cycles, could there be something with how the PS2 works that is messing up the numbers? Too bad someone can't test that with a modded Ps2 or something heh that would certainly make for a good answer.

Executives and programmers get paid whether they are in meetings or not.

Everything in software is a formula or algorithm of some sort. The reason for this is that everything in a computer has to be finite. Everything that happens is controlled by tiny details that’s must be explicitly defined by a programmer at some point. That’s why random number generators aren't really random at all. (Sometimes those tiny details add up to create a software program that works as intended. Sometimes they add up and do nothing even close to what was expected.)

For random number generators, most are constructed using mathematical formulas which actually don't change in structure at all from calculation to calculation. However, some of the variables within are changed 'randomly'. Confused? Hehe.

The randomness of the variables is usually taken from the system clock or something similar that can almost be guaranteed to be different from the last time you looked at it (something that changes naturally, like time). Because some of the variables are random, the formula spits out a number that is usually wildly different each time (within limits of course), then that number is usually modded (in other words, the remainder is taken by dividing that number by the maximum number acceptable). This guarantees a number between zero and the max number you want.

As far as why SE coded in some sort of pattern, I have no idea. It was either intentional, or the little pieces came together to produce an unexpected result, in which case, one would hope they would catch it, but maybe not.

Edited, Jul 1st 2008 2:49pm by sodenke