Attention: Posters of AllakhazamFollow

No, that is pedophilia. You know, that dangerous disease that makes you go into berserk mode and rape kids. I hear in Britain you have to sign up on a "potential child molester" list if you ever intend on visiting a school. Just so they can catch you fast if any kid feels like pretending they were molested.

In Sweden they just run a background check with the police, and hopefully it has less to do with pedophilia fear and more to do with not getting thieves or con-artists etc with the kids.

You have my lance.

posting this in my ls forum and digging it

See, here's my problem with that: They have a new MMO coming. People quitting from here will be read by them as people getting ready to move to FFXIV. I've never quit here, so does this game has an "exit interview" process?

For those unfamiliar, some jobs, and a number of MMOs, ask you several questions before you quit (IE Why you are quitting, are you playing any other MMOs, what would we improve). If this game doesn't have that, then a mass quit is pointless. They will never get the "Why" of it. All it will do is speed the demise of FFXI.

So, that leads us back to finding alternative means of getting our message across. Digging, spreading the article here virally, that's a good start.

We need plans for the next steps. In-game shoutfests? Maybe steal a page from the Japanese and have the whole nude bald Galka thing. I can do up a video maybe.

Let's get creative, build up some buzz!

*Watches the "Ferocious power of the NA's" at work*

Aaahhh... it's such a lovely thing to behold! :D

Edited, Aug 3rd 2009 12:18am by ionia

The problem with just quitting as a form of protest, as was brought up earlier, is that they have no idea why you're quitting. For all they know, you're quitting due to FFXIV. The only way to make SE listen is to make some noise. Send GM reports, post about it on the premier site forums (Which they DO read, as I'm sure you people at Alla are well aware of). Heck, even if they don't read them, the premier site staff are able to get in touch with SE.

Bottle up your fury, and when SE @#%^s up, unleash it on them with forum post after forum post. Pretty sure there's something on the PlayOnline website or program to let you send a letter directly to SE, if I can just find the damn thing.

If you want SE to listen to you, there's two very important things: First, yell at them when they @#%^ up, but don't go yelling at them even after they've resolved it. Perpetually whining at them even when they do as you say is just gonna make them ignore you. Second, pick a method that makes it damn clear why you're upset. Quitting doesn't say much outside of a generic "I don't want to play anymore for some reason". If you're going to quit, raise a stink in-game or something, THEN quit.

Edited, Aug 2nd 2009 11:18pm by Urthdigger

Oh you *****, I wanted to post this.


Anyways, good call Jinté. You have my support.

Ur not doin it rite.

I posted a link to the "Banned from Logic Article" on both my facebook and twitter account. Jinte I took the time to read other ffxi forums you've posted in and their reaction is just pathetic. It's sad how cold people can be when they themselves aren't affected. The funny part is, if this keeps up they probably will be.

EDIT: I Also dugg the article that was posted. Hopefully, others will do the same.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2009 11:03am by Tokyorose

I'll put it out in the open first and foremost, that I am new to FFXI. I had tried it out for a few weeks every couple of months, and it is only now that I have been able to stick with it, after having shook off my ravenous addiction to World of Wacraft.

However, don't get me wrong, I am by no means new to the Final Fantasy namesake. I've played every one of them except IV, V and XII, including killing the "secret bosses" from most of them, too - (Emerald and Ruby from VII, Ultima and Omega from VIII, Ozma from IX, the Dark Aeons, Nemesis and Penance (without Cheats) from X, etc).

Now, having finally being able to stick with FFXI for longer than a single month's worth of subscription, I can honestly say that I'm having an absolutely fantastic time, and I've been poring over all the different boards on this forum, trying to garner as much information as possible! And it has been during these, shall we call them, "adventures" around the boards that I have come across all this trouble with recent blanket-bannings, and it troubles me.

Further research into the subject reveals that Square Enix isn't exactly best known for it's customer service, with some quite frankly reprehensible events, especially over the past few months enveloping the duration thus-far of the bannings.

And from all of this, one thing is annoying me almost as much as the stories about the abysmal service given by the Square Enix representatives, and that is the attitude some players on these boards have been giving towards their brothers and sisters of the FFXI playerbase, which has driven me to actually make this post, instead of just reading and shaking my head in disgust.



I agree with this. Absolutely, whole-heartedly agree. Players quoting to the innocent people that were blanket-banned, by various flaws within the workings of Square Enix, that horrible "We can ban you whenever we want, for no reason" clause that you mentioned is within the Terms of Service, and not actually commenting on the predicament other than that.

This is a horrible attitude to take, and is why I am replying and showing my full support for Professor Jinte's plea. We need to unite under times like this. I don't want the game I'm currently loving, to become a wreck of disparate, self centered players, that treat innocent people as a sub-race, simply because they themselves weren't blanket-banned, and sure none of you do either.

We need to stick together, and I, for one, am with you Jinte.

Edit: Couple of little spelling and grammar errors, sorry.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2009 4:06pm by Enbi

I'm personally giving FFXI this month to issue some form of statement. If not I'll just quit again. I re-activated out of boredom after an 8 month break since it's the summer holidays and I've no work to do, but with all this crap I just don't feel like lining their pockets anymore. My money is a miniscule amount to them, but hey, I wouldn't mind an extra £15 a month in my bank account from not paying their fees.

I think one of the underlying issues with the customer base and SE is basic communication.

The customer base asks for something. SE hears it. SE takes no action.
The customer base asks for something. SE hears it. SE gives us something different.
The customer base pleads for change. SE laughs and says thats impossible.

What Square needs to realise is that the customer base is extremely unsettled and very unstable at this time. They are getting a lot of negative publicity and this is going to go against them far into the future on non-FFXI games and products.

Now I cant and wont speak for everyone. But when I see an entire community of likeminded people asking for change - and then SE just laughs time and time again straight to our faces. I get pissed.

We give lots and lots of suggestions to SE on ways they can improve the game. Many things just small changes which would improve the experience of FFXI. Others large that would be just as amazing for us.

But what does SE do? They laugh at us. How many times has the topic of Kings been brought up at fanfests and interviews? How many times has the topic of instanced dynamis zones been brought up? How many times have people asked for changes to TONNES of stuff?

And what do we get?:
1: "Custom dungeons! A'la Moblin Maze Mongers" - Which they made so nobody wants to do.

2: "Campaign Battles" - But they nerf the rewards from forts.

3:"Add-ons!" - They charge us for essentially 1 piece of equip they could add for free.

4: "Security tokens!" - which they add to mog sachels which for many is the only reason to get one

5: "Job Updates!" - which for some are Fixes like the SMN ward range fix or the broken esuna which should do erasega regardless of what stance is active.

6: "Wings of the Goddess" - This EXPANSION has been under development for over a year and 1/2. And as of the last patch it was only 2/3 to completion. I'm sorry but no way should an expansion take so long. We should be getting a new expansion at least every year. We pay good money already.

Square Enix needs to stop HEARING us and start LISTENING and then REACTING in accordance to our needs instead of force feeding us crap like Add on scenarios. We deserve true content not this crap.

/endrant

Edited, Aug 3rd 2009 9:00pm by Xellith