Life of a Newb (Day 9)Follow

Well I had another one of those gimp nights where I only play for just over an hour. I spent the majority of this time in Windy trying to figure out some quests. Let me first say that I have a lot of respect for those of you who played this game when it first came out. I imagine it was incredibly difficult to figure out how to do the majority of these quests or to have any direction at all. I know a lot of people say Fame is too easy to get, but that is only because it is so easy to do a search and find what you are supposed to do. Last night I talked to this NPC who was mumbling about trying to find something.. The first thought that crossed my mind was, I should do a search and find out what item he needs.

I have not yet started any trade skills, I actually joined the cloth guild but was discouraged when I saw how much it was going to take to get anywhere. Right now the only trade skill that I think I'm interested in getting is Culinary. Good to be able to create food to boost my MP and MP regeneration. Unfortunately I had sold the majority of my Crystals so I probably wont have enough left over to do anything useful with them. I don't remember off hand what stacks I have left.

One thing I am really getting impatient about is getting some GobbieBags. It seems like my inventory is always full, people are talking about soon I'll not want to return to the city until I've gained a number of levels and I'm just imagining my poor bag being filled to the brim as I watch item after item get junked. Is there a fast track towards getting these GobbieBags? Are there any quests that are simple and generate fame for Jueno? (Thats where you need the fame for GobbieBags right?)

Thanks,
Twadd
(Altis on Carbuncle)


Edited, Dec 14th 2007 9:18am by Twadd

This quest will raise your fame for gobbie bag, read the comments they will help you out http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=180

As for Clothcraft, windy is a great place to start. Kill Yagudo's for their bead necklaces. 1 Wind Crystal + yagudo bead necklace = 3 grass threads. Here is a guide for Clothcraft http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=24;mid=117052622426313121;num=1;page=1 you can find more in the "Tradeskills Forum" in the stickies. All you have to do for at least the first 10 or 11 levels is farm crystals and items needed for crafting.

Edited, Dec 14th 2007 9:28am by Lofi

Crafting is a funny old game Twadd, the crafting system doesn't favor low level crafters, as the people with much higher skill levels than you (and there will be a lot of them), can use the same ingredients as you can, but get a higher yield of the end product, in short this means they can afford to sell the items much lower than you can make them for. When FFXI was relatively young, crafting was a good way to make gil, you could almost always turn a profit.

Now to make gil from crafting you are going to have to sponsor yourself for quite some time. If you brave FFXIAH.com, you can see recipes on there, it will also show you how much profit you can make, so you can get a feel for what is most profitable/least loss involved.

Also you can look into which crafting ingredients are currently good sellers, and then focus on farming materials, rather than making the end product. I understand that fishing is also a good craft, as right off the bat, you will be profiting from the fish and items you catch.

Once you have a way to support your craft of choice, you can then begin the long road to level 100. There will come a point when you too can produce the higher yields of certain items, and then your crafting will become profitable also.

Your ability to farm items en masse however, will be directly linked to your job level, the higher your level the more monsters you can kill without resting.

Another classic post. Keep em coming. By tonight you should start feeling good about yourself.

Jeuno fame is based on your fame in sandy bastok and windy if you can get hero fame in one city it should boost your jeuno fame up enough to do all the gobbie bag quests. Thats what makes the selbina farmer quest so nice cause its sandy and bastok fame ^^.

Edited, Dec 14th 2007 10:48am by DjSleepyD

Space is a perpetual issue for most of us, and not just at low levels! But it does get better in time. Goobie bags, as you know, increase your inventory. But these can be costly and do require Jeuno fame as you know. I did not bother getting mine for some time, as I had far more important things to spend my limited cash on when I started.

However, you also have ways to increase your mog house slots too, and the addition of cheap furniture can give you a nice boost too. While these wont often help with any immediate space problems you might have walking around, you can dump all your incomplete stacks of items and crystals in your safe before heading out to places like the Dunes.

You'll probably find that the Dunes do not offer all that much loot anyway, so it may not be a problem. Unlike the areas you solo, where you are fighting many different types of mobs with many kinds of loot, in the Dunes you'll only really be taking on 6 types of mob at most. Crystals will be your biggest source of income/loot.

Lizards drop skins, which is the best item you'll see in the Dunes on most servers. These stack, so unless you're very lucky you'll only need one slot for them. Their tails are worth very little though, and you can either throw them or sell them direct to a vendor in Selbina (next to the Dunes).

Crabs drop even less. The shells are pretty infrequent, although they are a key ingredient in a number of Bonecraft recipees, so there is always a market for them. But they do not stack and they can quickly take up a lot of space. You may be better off selling them to NPCs if you find yourself getting low on room. Rock Salt is as near worthless as makes no odds.

Bats, Pugils and Flies drop nothing of real value.

That leaves goblins, which drop a fair selection of goods, but again you might not see all that much reaching your inventory, and space may be less of an issue than you fear.

The only real exceptions for you will be the following:

Spells - You may want to take a few spell scrolls with you, as you'll be gaining levels. However, check out the spell vendor for Selbina before you go spending your gil - he might sell some of the spells you need there, and that can save you gil AND space :) The advantage here is that you'll free up slots as you level and use your scrolls.

Subjob items - Crabs, Flies and Ghouls (You'll probably need help with these)each drop an item you'll be needing, so you'll want to try and keep three slots clear for when they drop. You often get the Apron and Worm in xp parties, so keep your eyes open for them.

Once you're clear of the Dunes you'll find space less of an issue. Qufim is right by Jeuno, which has mog houses and an AH, and then you'll be off to Kazham, which has limited mog house access (your safe and delivery box) and an AH (connected to the Windurst one). You'll be able to offload junk between parties much more easily.

Hopefully all this will reasure you somewhat. At the worst, check online what loot seems to be worth the least, and either offload it to the nearest NPC merchant for small change, or worst case toss it :)

Good luck!

I was going by what he had written in his OP. He was asking about crafting and there was no mention of Norg fame (which he really doesn't need atm). You can get to lvl 11 Clothcraft just by farming Yag necklaces and using Wind and Earth crystals you get from lvling/farming. Yes grass thread is only lvl 1, but as soon as you hit lvl 1 you start turning the thread into cloth, then at lvl 4 you can start turning cloth into capes. I just found that it was a pretty easy way to get those lvls.

To the OP you can do w/e you want with the necklaces, Norg fame will be nice in the future. To be totally honest with you, I would just lvl and do your Rank missions, craft along the way with items you get from farming/exping. When you are higher lvl and can make gil a bit more easily then hit the crafting hard.

You can harvest out in West Sartabarta out from the outpost. Theres a small hill on the right wall. If you go up it up are on an upper level. Continue left and start tabbing if you are on a pc. (Not sure what it is for the others.) But, when you find a harvesting point, trade a sickle to it. (Sickles can be bought in Waters at the shop (I forget the name but its on the left as you start to head to the residential area.)

Lightning crystal and 2 moka grass=1 grass thread. You'll get other stuff as well and you can save them for later synths or sell them on the auction house. Some harvesting points will give you more than one item. Just keep sorting your inventory cause it'll fill up fast. Good Luck!

Hmm...what about mog safe expansion quest? The first is not THAT expensive I believe.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=194

If you're going to level cooking you might want to side-car fishing with it - which is what I did in the early levels. Fishing skill is under-rated and slow to come in, but the system now favors 'at keyboard' players with the ability to catch fish by learning the reel in technique. Also most low level fish can be cooked in some way to obtain cooking skill with your own material base. More time = less cost being the theory. Pocket Fisherman's cookbook <~~this guide is very similar to the one I used in my really early cooking and fishing days when gil was tight.

cooking ftw.

Let me give you a few tips.

1) you might want to look in getting a mule. it will cost you $1 more each month for every mule. They are good for holding gear and crafting items**. I had my main + 3 mules. Near the end of my play, i really only needed 1-2 of them mules (you can get more room via Moogle house, Moogle Locker, and Gobie Bags).

2) Cooking is a great guild to join. Cooking + Fishing can make some good gil later on.

-This is how guilds work if you don't know.
You can only have one guild past lvl 60*.
Guilds cap every 10 lvls, and you have to take a "test" (you make something, or just buy it off the AH).
All crafts cap at 100.
* = this is for the normal guilds. You can have any craft 60+ AND have fishing 60+ and it wont effect your "main" craft (same goes with choco digging, but ti caps at 10).
So you can have cooking 100 & fishing 100.
But not cooking 100 and lets say cloth 100.

sub-2) Pick up fishing now. It can help you make some gil. a Halcyon (sp) Rod + Bug Paste fishing in Windy Woods (the main windy zone) will get you moat carp.
They should be going for 3k+ a stack.
The fishing guild is in Windy too ^-^


3) Cooking, a craft: Its fun. Can be cheap to level if you know what/how to do it.

The down side... best place to cook is in Sandy, when sandy is in 1st place and owns most of the map.

Windy is the home of the cooking guild, but does not have a "food store". The Guild can run out of food.

However sandy's food store does not run out. But food it sells is determined by how much of the region map Sandy owns that week.

Region vendors sell food items too, they don't run out either. But having Sandy in 1st means you can just get most of the stuff at the food store, and not have to goto the vendors

-Side note: you are going to want to know where ll the Region Vendors are in each town, that way if you have to go to them, you will know where they are.

I lvled cooking to 70-something, well actually i power leveled it (thats where you have a bunch of gil, and then waste it..not really learning the skill like you would if you took the time.. i learned it later >.>). I did all my cooking in sandy, then would goto Windy to take the test.


sub-3) Fame, the higher your fame, the cheaper NPCs will sell stuff to you. It is best to have high sandy fame for buying stuff.
Selbina has a qst (i saw a few others say it). Look up where you can buy millicorn at. But TONS of it. Take it to this NPC, max your fame out. w00t! ***

** = when cooking, you will make TONs of the same thing, and you usually use this item a few levels down the road.
ie: you will make a zillion Pie Doughs. And then a few levels later, you can use them pie doughs to make Pies.
But you need somewhere to go with the dough.
You either have to sell it, and then buy/make more again... or send it to a mule until you need it.

*** = I say don't start the craft until you are lvl 20. That way you can have access to chocobos, you will (should) have the 3 main Teleports...and you will have the spell Warp by then.
These 3 things will help you in your travels.

4) Gobbie bags, it is a jeuno qst. Need jeuno fame. Best way to do that is get higher fame in the starting towns. Doing the qst above not only gives you sandy fame, but Bas fame as well (in equal amounts).
So maxing both Sandy and Bas fame, will give you high Jeno fame.
Thus you will be able to do the GB (gobie bag) qst(s).
To do them you have to bring the Gob a few items, the items can be bought on the AH.

hope it all helps.

crafting is a fickle thing

on one hand the newbie crafters complain about the veterans synthing HQ's so much they can afford to sell things that is otherwise at a loss

on the other hand the veteran crafters complain about the newbie crafters coming in and flooding the markets they were tending

If you are after a significant amount of crystals you can always use Pikko's specialty: gardening which has the potential to yield very many! It can also potentially supply you with ingredients for your cooking endeavours.

Its best to plan ahead for things like this btw

Looks like everyone else has hit the mark already, but I do have some Harvesting maps for you.

http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/gulif/ziq_saisyueng.html

As far as the Yag necklaces go, it's up to you what you do with them. Since you are starting out mage, I would think it will be a while before you need NIN anything. Maybe do the crafting now and Norg fame later. BLM would be awesome for that as you can -ga the Yags to oblivion in later lvls. The best place for the necklaces are in Giddeus as they drop much more frequently there. You are at a good lvl to get exp on the starter Yags there, too. Did I mention it's also one of the best places to Harvest?

The sickles can be bought at Ensasa's Catalyst Shop in W. Waters.

I, myself, am a cook. I have no new suggestions for that except that if you intend to cook (or any other craft) for profit, make sure it's an item you can move. It's not a ideal to be stuck with an entire inventory of crafted goods you have to sell to an NPC.

I have a mule (admittedly, more than one because I'm a packrat) in each city. when I cook I am able to buy goods from the regional vendors without having to travel there. I have another one in Jeuno to sell the finished product at the AH. Most "serious" crafters do the same, but that's just a heads-up. You have a while before you have to worry about being "serious" with any craft.