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#1 Jan 30 2008 at 7:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues. Tanaka also expressed interest in making a benchmark program available.

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#2fatalillusiontw, Posted: Jan 30 2008 at 7:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Old news already, but always useful .
#3 Jan 30 2008 at 7:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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I must be getting old :( I don't have search feature so must have missed when I looked back a few weeks lol

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Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues. Tanaka also expressed interest in making a benchmark program available.

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#4 Jan 30 2008 at 8:36 PM Rating: Default
Not to worry, as I said, alwasy good to know ^^
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#6 Jan 30 2008 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
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wow. they either dont do enough or do to much >.> that looks like one of the documents i had to fill out when my credit card was stolen once.
#7 Jan 30 2008 at 9:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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wow. they either dont do enough or do to much >.> that looks like one of the documents i had to fill out when my credit card was stolen once.


With a Public Notary stamping, SE will know indeed that the person trying to claim the account was indeed the one who originally had it...

I applaud SE for this.
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#8 Jan 31 2008 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Under penalty of perjury, that sounds like a DCMA notice which I guess is reasonably good. It protects SE from fraudulent claims (i.e. people who sold their accounts but then decide to get it back). Every step forward is a good step, hopefully the people who had their accounts stolen will have them returned in the same state as before they were stolen.
#9 Jan 31 2008 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Lexxuk wrote:
Every step forward is a good step, hopefully the people who had their accounts stolen will have them returned in the same state as before they were stolen.


No. You will get your character(s) back, but most likely with a lot less gear and gil. Perhaps some items they could trace to other RMT are returned as well.

#10 Jan 31 2008 at 6:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Seedling wrote:
Lexxuk wrote:
Every step forward is a good step, hopefully the people who had their accounts stolen will have them returned in the same state as before they were stolen.


No. You will get your character(s) back, but most likely with a lot less gear and gil. Perhaps some items they could trace to other RMT are returned as well.



Nope, its on front page of alla now, you'll be able to get your items back through the normal item returns policy.
#11 Jan 31 2008 at 7:37 AM Rating: Default
Lexxuk wrote:
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Lexxuk wrote:
Every step forward is a good step, hopefully the people who had their accounts stolen will have them returned in the same state as before they were stolen.


No. You will get your character(s) back, but most likely with a lot less gear and gil. Perhaps some items they could trace to other RMT are returned as well.



Nope, its on front page of alla now, you'll be able to get your items back through the normal item returns policy.


AKA "you get nothing back at all" since you don't know where stuff was dropped or NPCed. And even if you did chances are you can't report this within 7 days the item was dropped/NPCed. I just hope they come up with a real solution sometime soon.
#12 Jan 31 2008 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
What about sold accounts? I can see some filing out tis form to get back a sold account.
#13 Jan 31 2008 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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What about sold accounts? I can see some filing out tis form to get back a sold account.


In the form you have to confirm that you haven't sold your account. Let's say you sign that. Now SE has to believe you were a victim. They'll probably give back the account that you sold. Those who bought it though might call SE now and request to get their bought account back. If they got some kind of proof like ebay confirms that an account was sold by the original owner of the account I guess they will return it to the account buyer and that's it or SE will take further steps against whoever tried to cheat them and take further steps against the account seller. After all he caused extra work(and we all know SE is lazy) because he lied and they got official proof of that.

Kinda sucks though. Was hoping that people could reclaim their sold accounts because then account buying would have become a part of history. ;;
#14 Jan 31 2008 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
Lexxuk wrote:
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Lexxuk wrote:
Every step forward is a good step, hopefully the people who had their accounts stolen will have them returned in the same state as before they were stolen.


No. You will get your character(s) back, but most likely with a lot less gear and gil. Perhaps some items they could trace to other RMT are returned as well.



Nope, its on front page of alla now, you'll be able to get your items back through the normal item returns policy.


The current item restore policy is one item ("ticket") per account.

Generally, it's harder for them to restore items that were lost more than two weeks ago, but it's still possible.
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#15 Jan 31 2008 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe in the current POL news, they said a modified policy will take in effect for this... pol isnt up atm since both my chars are in game camping a NM so cant go back for the exact quote
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I like what they're doing here but only to an extent. I've been playing Xi since US-PC release, but I also lived with 2 other room mates. We had purchased 2 copies, PC version and a couple months later the PS2 version. PC version was done under one of my room mates, and when the PS2 version came in the mail I was at work so my other room mate did it under him. Now I've been using the original PC account since then so if my account did get stolen then I wouldn't be able to show this. Heck there were a few times when I called SE because of billing errors and they told me that my name didn't match up with the account but everytime I had to explain the room mate issue, yet they never seem to update that information.

I still have all my registration codes for it so I think I would be fine, but even if not hopefully they'd be able to tell through payment history since it was all on my credit cards.
#17 Jan 31 2008 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kinda sucks though. Was hoping that people could reclaim their sold accounts because then account buying would have become a part of history. ;;


If the buyer called into SE and said "I bought such and such account" they won't get it back. Selling and buying of accounts is forbidden, so I can't imagine SE would give the account back to the buyer. In all likelihood, the account would be banned and litigation brought against the seller. Sadly, there probably isn't a whole lot of non-circumstantial, concrete evidence that would stand up in court regarding the sale to prosecute the seller. If there is no way to connect the seller to the buyer, then there is nothing from preventing the seller from saying their account was compromised, then sold to another individual.

I can't think of a full-proof way that the buyer is protected from the seller, and definitely no way that the buyer could keep an account once the seller attempted to get it back. So, I think this will, in fact, help reduce buying and selling of accounts. Hooray!
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#19 Jan 31 2008 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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#20 Jan 31 2008 at 2:41 PM Rating: Default
So has anybody figured out how so many accounts are getting stolen like this? Surely there must be some sort of site you are giving too much information or a program that is gathering information... something then just somebody trying password after password trying to guess.

#21 Feb 01 2008 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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In all likelihood, the account would be banned and litigation brought against the seller. Sadly, there probably isn't a whole lot of non-circumstantial, concrete evidence that would stand up in court regarding the sale to prosecute the seller.


Litigation brought against the seller? Police aren't even touching stolen accounts as crimes, since new laws and policy are still being written currently when it comes to online affairs.

Not to mention the fact, no laws are being broken in the selling of an account. Against ToS, sure. Against the law, nope. No contracts have been signed between users and SEC.
#22 Feb 01 2008 at 4:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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sohaltang wrote:
What about sold accounts? I can see some filing out tis form to get back a sold account.


Note, in the form the OP showed us,it says "Under Penalty of Perjury under the laws of (Nation of your Residence)"

This means, that if you get caught lying, you will be prosecuted for Perjury. Last I heard, this isn't exactly a joke, and when you go to a Notary of the Public, and lie, there are serious penalties for doing so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury

In the United States, committing Perjury can land one in Prison for up to Five Years, as it says in Wiki:

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The rules for perjury also apply when a person has made a statement under penalty of perjury, even if the person has not been sworn or affirmed as a witness before an appropriate official. An example of this is the United States' income tax return, which, by law, must be signed as true and correct under penalty of perjury (see 26 U.S.C. § 6065). Federal tax law provides criminal penalties of up to three years in prison for violation of the tax return perjury statute. See 26 U.S.C. § 7206(1).


Note, in SE's form from the above OP's link, it says "Under Penalty Of Perjury".

So, in short, DON'T LIE ON THESE FORMS. If you get caught, you will be in deep sh*t.

Edited, Feb 1st 2008 7:47pm by Zariamnk
#23 Feb 01 2008 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Note, in the form the OP showed us,it says "Under Penalty of Perjury under the laws of (Nation of your Residence)"

This means, that if you get caught lying, you will be prosecuted for Perjury. Last I heard, this isn't exactly a joke, and when you go to a Notary of the Public, and lie, there are serious penalties for doing so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury

In the United States, committing Perjury can land one in Prison for up to Five Years, as it says in Wiki


Serious business.

Rofl. Yeah, SE is actually going to "investigate", find out you sold the account, and spend thousands of dollars taking you to court.
#24 Feb 01 2008 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
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Note, in the form the OP showed us,it says "Under Penalty of Perjury under the laws of (Nation of your Residence)"

This means, that if you get caught lying, you will be prosecuted for Perjury. Last I heard, this isn't exactly a joke, and when you go to a Notary of the Public, and lie, there are serious penalties for doing so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury

In the United States, committing Perjury can land one in Prison for up to Five Years, as it says in Wiki


Serious business.

Rofl. Yeah, SE is actually going to "investigate", find out you sold the account, and spend thousands of dollars taking you to court.


Signed documentary and payment records is solid evidence. Even if SE itself won't take the person to court, I'm fairly sure whoever got scammed will be. Folks, you don't want to tempt this; just let it go if you sold your account. The risk is not worth it.
#25 Feb 02 2008 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Lets give SE a bit of love for giving us a way to get accounts back...tired of seeing people whine that they cant get them back, now that they can whining that they dont like the way it works.

You gota remember here they need to do this some way that people CANT TAKE ADVANTAGE of it.
#26 Feb 02 2008 at 3:23 AM Rating: Decent
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I think its great that SE is finally doing something and even going to a point where they can press charges with false claims. Which I think has been the whole problem as to why accounts haven't been given back. There just no way to prove who sold accounts and who had them stolen.

So yay for SE.

What I am interested in known though, is what action will be taken against people who have stolen the accounts in the first place? Will there be any legel action taken to hackers? After all, SE is forcing people to see a Public Notary to get accounts returned, so if your lying they can take action. Is SE going to take this a step farther? tracking down IP addresses, credit cards, and so on so they can press charges?
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