don't they usually have quaterly updates? Because tbh, anything further would suck hard. The last update has pretty much been exhausted for content value, and I can't see waiting past april or any longer without the game starting to sour.
It should be noted that it was multiple interviews on top of Fanfest announcement that sated the update for early March, not some wild presumptions. As far as actual update content. March, August, and December are our usual times. It would be nice if we actually got content updates as much as quarterly.
they should overpower it, and nerf your healing magic. That way all you can be is frontlines, and no one will invite you. Having to compete with sam, mnk, and war in merits will cure you of dding real fas
Shows you haven't been keeping up.
First off, they would have to CRIPPLE healing on RDM (IE disable the entire healing skill line.) for it to have any substantial effect. Our actual healing potency sucks balls as it is compared to SCH, WHM, BLU and even SMN (when you include the full sum of their healing and damage mitigation pacts). What pushes RDM ahead in the healing department is our MP restoration abilities; Convert and Refresh.
Second, RDM brings more on the mage side to the table than just curing. Remember that before the burn days, we were the primary enfeeble. Dia, Paralyze, hell, we'd even still have haste. We were moved to the back lines a HELL of a lot before we took over the primary healer department. So you'd have to nerf the ENTIRE spell line for RDM in some manner to have "all they can be is front line."
Third, even if they accomplish it, do you REALLY think they're going to do it permanently? Chances are it'd result more like Saber Dance, that with it up your magic is nerfed, but you can turn it off with a delay to switch back to casting. And to many RDM's that would be very acceptable. Most are spending their otherwise would be 'Merit Time' in Campaign anyways because of the redundancy of the Merit party roles. So you're threatening to take away our invites is sort of a moot point on Melee enthusists.
Honestly, we were the original 'lol' job, before even Dragoon or Ranger. Any RDM who's played since NA release and is a front-line enthusiast would gladly sacrifice our prima donna invite position; if only to curb the obsessive numbers of those ONLY doing it for the invite rate. Hell, that's not even just the Front Line enthusiasts anymore.
Lastly, and this is what really gets me, is how poorly you understand the desires of the RDM players. We're not asking to compete with MNK, SAMs, and WARs. (Though I've seen a Rdm out damage a Samurai post Seka update right before my very eyes.) We're asking more to compete with your 'second brds' and corsairs.
Effectively, post number crunching, if you manage to pull off 17% of party damage while maintaining a decent form of support, you've earned your place. Note: If you're pulling more than 20%, someone else in your party is slacking. If you're pulling less that 15% you need to pull out and check your gear. That's your performance range, provided you preform as a decent support as well (back up cure and some debuffing) Roughly it equates to what a BRD/WHM will do for your party, substituting what the party would have gained with the extra haste/attack songs with raw damage and extra healing/refresh potential. Corsair I do believe however possibly contributes to more than the additional 17% performance because of the pairing off of both buffs and damage, but is far less supportive healing magic wise.
The idea here is to compete with that second support slot (which was originally ours to begin with) not be a dedicated damage dealer, nor a dedicated main healer.
show me. Send a /tell to darknei on siren, i'll see if i can get some buds to do a merit party or traditional one for any frontliner to show off. Cause tbh i know several rdm that are very well geared and skilled that don't try to frontline in an actual party, and i don't think its because of any stereotype. Offer goes for any rdm that wants to try.
I'm on Diabolos. And pretty much I'm sure you're expecting the wrong things for a Rdm to aptly prove themselves anyways. However, for your benefit, I'll link you to the parse that really shut the majoirty of the RDM forum complainers up. This Parse, it's thread and all the contents within it should live forever anyways.
Admittedly it's almost a year old now. But if anyone wants to argue his claim to his gear and melee performance, I have screen shots. Had the pleasure of a single merit party with him while I was on Odin. It was inspiring to say the least. While my own parser was personally broke, I did take several screen caps of the situation. I actually covered it in one of the multitude of RDM melee threads in the forums if you wanna dig through.
Otherwise, follow the standards above and look at his parses (they're scattered in the forums.) He and others pretty much made the standard for front line RDM, and then promptly exceeded it.
If you can find a RDM of anywhere near that level of caliber on your server, go ahead and try it. As for myself I'm an Utsu-ni and a few pieces of WS gear away from really getting into it full time. I'm in about that 15% damage range right now, but my Eviscerations are disappointingly low, and I wasn't parsing against the 'elite' by any means. Honestly I've been down of late and haven't been in the game much so I probably will pick up again in my work when it gets closer to the actual update.
I can realize someone being skeptical of all of this, but if you're going to comment please at least try to keep informed.
That said, if a RDM want's to know about his gear options. There is this thread.
Also, myself and many of the RDM forums should be able to help perspective front-liners properly develop their gear. Edited, Feb 21st 2009 11:14pm by Hyrist Edited, Feb 21st 2009 11:50pm by Hyrist