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#377 Feb 27 2013 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Hey, where's our next super HOPE and CHANGE candidate going to arise, that will challenge these egregious affronts? Obviously this has nothing at all to do with party. It has to do with Balls, aka: some adherence to the @#%^ing Constitution.
Hilary's coming. She's got balls.


Civil rights-crushing balls, in the name of defending ourselves against terrorists, sure. Let's just further rape the Fouth Amendmaet in the name of freedom.

Female despot rather than male black despot: CHANGE!
Yeah, lets stop searching every law abiding citizen that wants to get on a domestic plane flight. Lets get rid profiling and sticking everyone with olive skin on watch lists. Let's stop searching cars because they're driven by a young black man.

Honestly, the government putting out a hit here and there on known international terrorists is really pretty narrowly reaching event in the big picture of human rights.

But froth on....


Edited, Feb 27th 2013 2:29pm by Elinda
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#378 Feb 27 2013 at 7:31 AM Rating: Excellent
Someone put this idiot back in his cage please. Gbaji's enough, lately. Doesn't need a supporting cast.
#379 Feb 27 2013 at 7:49 AM Rating: Default
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Elinda wrote:
Yeah, lets stop searching every law abiding citizen that wants to get on a domestic plane flight. Lets get rid profiling and sticking everyone with olive skin on watch lists. Let's stop searching cars because they're driven by a young black man.

Honestly, the government putting out a hit here and there on known international terrorists is really pretty narrowly reaching event in the big picture of human rights.


You're so cute, with your trust. And your awe-inspiring faith that Hillary would change things. But apparently you don't think anything needs to be changed anyway. And you seemingly have utterly no care for any non-Americans.

Btw, "known international terrorists" is now "any males of combat age" (signature strikes [do you know this term, ignoramus?]), plus "anyone who will first-respond or show up to a funeral of who we just killed". Or do you even know the current conditions of drone-strike. I'm not going to even link links. Ir you're so utterly ignorant, then sure...HILLARY!
#380 Feb 27 2013 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Someone put this idiot back in his cage please. Gbaji's enough, lately. Doesn't need a supporting cast.


Isn't Gbaji a hardcore rightist? I'm a hardcore Constitutionalist and human rights-ist. Guess that might not make various liberals accept my criticisms of Obama, sure. Sorry if I've overstepped my bounds. Still waiting for justification of the egregious crimes from my initial post in this thread btw.

Obama sucks. He has championed every civil rights abuse from the Bush Administration, and tried and succeeded into making it absolute law.

Elinda says Hillary is going to upend all this?? How naive are you people?

Edited, Feb 27th 2013 8:59am by Palpitus1
#381 Feb 27 2013 at 8:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lol. Nice job then, Obama...

I'm not voting for that guy again!
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#382 Feb 27 2013 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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Lol. Nice job then, Obama...

I'm not voting for that guy again!
You won't have to, he'll be an evil Muslim dictator soon, taking away your guns and freedom.
#383 Feb 27 2013 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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You're so cute, with your trust.
Says the guy crying about the amendments.
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I'm a hardcore Constitutionalist and human rights-ist.
Is that in addition to your being a realist, or did you drop that? Just curious how many doctrine you pretend to adhere to for future reference.
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#384 Feb 27 2013 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Palpitus1 wrote:
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Someone put this idiot back in his cage please. Gbaji's enough, lately. Doesn't need a supporting cast.


Isn't Gbaji a hardcore rightist? I'm a hardcore Constitutionalist and human rights-ist. Guess that might not make various liberals accept my criticisms of Obama, sure. Sorry if I've overstepped my bounds. Still waiting for justification of the egregious crimes from my initial post in this thread btw.

Obama sucks. He has championed every civil rights abuse from the Bush Administration, and tried and succeeded into making it absolute law.

Elinda says Hillary is going to upend all this?? How naive are you people?

Edited, Feb 27th 2013 8:59am by Palpitus1

Actually, I don't see a big Hilary upending anything that you mentioned. Sure, some sop on drone use is needed - not just at the federal level but across the nations states and cities. My hopes for Hilary are more demanding, should she become our leader. I think she's best equipped to get begin to dysfunctionalize our healthcare system. Costs are stifling our entire economy.

Access to affordable health care is a basic human rights issue that is adversely affecting far more of our population than inter/national intelligence procedures - no?

edit - i'm misspelling made up words again.

Edited, Feb 27th 2013 8:12pm by Elinda
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#385 Feb 27 2013 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol. Nice job then, Obama...

I'm not voting for that guy again!
You won't have to, he'll be an evil Muslim dictator soon, taking away your guns and freedom.


Nice attempt at levity. He is currently and shall be the most current President who debased our 4th amendment (Unreasonable Search and Seizure), and our 1st Amendment (Freedom of Assoication) civil rights. Obama isn't an evil Muslim. He's an evil US Christian President. He has ****** you and us all.

FFS, here's just a recent example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/26/supreme-court-eavesdropping-law-doj-argument

US DOJ advocates that no one has position to challenge a law/email-search, since none can be aware they were so searched, since DOJ searches are classified. Big circular logic to make FISA searches beyond the bounds of law, whether Congressional or Judicial. Who's left to challenge? Apparently NO ONE CAN. Obama is vigorously advancing search without warrant, and vigorously using "classified info" in the Supreme Court so as to dimiss standing to sue/challenge.

Your great hero, Barack Obama.
#386 Feb 27 2013 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Is that in addition to your being a realist, or did you drop that? Just curious how many doctrine you pretend to adhere to for future reference.


There's no dissonance between being a realist and a Constitutionalist. For example, a realist might accept the Constitution as is, yet not also invade various countries and drone-bomb various foreigners. Not just for Constitutional reasons, but also becase of realist blowback.

Of course, a rationalist would accept that there are various forces in the US who desire constant blowback and war. Guess I'm actually an optimist, then. Maybe we could like, stop warmongering in order to continue our military-industrial complex (Eisenhower btw, GOP) for at least like uh, two years? Maybe four years?
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He's an evil US Christian President. He has @#%^ed you and us all.

FFS, here's just a recent example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/26/supreme-court-eavesdropping-law-doj-argument

Wouldn't that example be "The SCotUS has ****** you and us all"?
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#388 Feb 27 2013 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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He has @#%^ed you and us all.
I'm not American though so I don't really give a rat's *** about your constitution.
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Guess I'm actually an optimist, then.
So to answer my question, four doctrines. Are you going to stick to those four, or are you going to add and remove as necessary?
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#390 Feb 27 2013 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually, I don't see a big Hilary upending anything that you mentioned. Sure, some sop on drone use is needed - not just at the federal level but across the nations states and cities. My hopes for Hilary are more demanding, should she become our leader. I think she's best equipped to get begin to dyfunctionalize our healthcare system. Costs are stifling our entire economy.

Access to affordable health care is a basic human rights issue that is adversely affecting far more of our population than inter/national intelligence procedures - no?


Yes, that's a good reasons to vote for her rather than any scumbag Republicans in the next race.

Of course, our own American quality of life is paramount to who we elect. I don't expect Hillary to stop bombing and making war on brown people, but she'd be better for our lower economy than a GOP. I might even vote for her too if I could stand a perhaps 2016 promise to bomb Iran or something. Otherwise, I'd vote again for Jill Stein or someone, whose platform doesn't feature murdering others around the world.
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Jophiel wrote:
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He's an evil US Christian President. He has @#%^ed you and us all.

FFS, here's just a recent example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/26/supreme-court-eavesdropping-law-doj-argument

Wouldn't that example be "The SCotUS has @#%^ed you and us all"?


It's the endgame. Now all three branches have ****** us all.
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Guess I'm actually an optimist, then.
So to answer my question, four doctrines. Are you going to stick to those four, or are you going to add and remove as necessary?


What's your goddamn question? I'm not going to "add" or "remove". Are you trying to be some philosophical challenge? Are you claiming that various positions can't hold together?

I see you rather as a petulant moron. "Four Doctrines"? A hundred docrines could be consistent. Or two couldn't be. State your objection, *****.
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State your objection, *****.
Calm down. Don't let your illiteracy get you so butthurt, man.
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Someone put this idiot back in his cage please. Gbaji's enough, lately. Doesn't need a supporting cast.

Rebirth of Shadowrelm! Fumbling out of the ashes and squawking like a mentally retarded phoenix...
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#395 Feb 27 2013 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
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So being a (real) liberal and being sad/objecting that a "liberal" President and supporters are destroying civil rights is now "squawking".

Can you at least give me a more interesting adjective for my being greatly upset that my country's President is destroying our Bill or Rights? If not "squawking", maybe at least "wheening" or "mewling"? After all, I'm just lying here in my own Cheetoes thrashing out at random. I have no idea what's going on in my country.
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Can you at least give me a more interesting adjective...

Ya get what ya give.
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#397 Feb 27 2013 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Someone put this idiot back in his cage please. Gbaji's enough, lately. Doesn't need a supporting cast.


But those of us at boring jobs LIVE for these posts!
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Someone put this idiot back in his cage please. Gbaji's enough, lately. Doesn't need a supporting cast.


But those of us at boring jobs LIVE for these posts!
I'm sure there's better ways to entertain yourself.
#399 Feb 27 2013 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm sure there's better ways to entertain yourself.


He creates quality mental images though...

Palpitus1 wrote:
I'm just lying here in my own Cheetoes thrashing out at random.


Smiley: rolleyes
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#400 Feb 27 2013 at 11:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Palpitus1 wrote:
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Guess I'm actually an optimist, then.
So to answer my question, four doctrines. Are you going to stick to those four, or are you going to add and remove as necessary?


What's your goddamn question? I'm not going to "add" or "remove". Are you trying to be some philosophical challenge? Are you claiming that various positions can't hold together?

I see you rather as a petulant moron. "Four Doctrines"? A hundred docrines could be consistent. Or two couldn't be. State your objection, *****.


He's letting you off easy. I'd make you adhere to 5k sutras or so.
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I'm just lying here in my own Cheetoes thrashing out at random.

Smiley: rolleyes

Begs the question of who else's Cheetos you'd expect him to be lying in.
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