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#1 Jun 23 2016 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
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www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

This is not small news for the 3 million EU citizens living in the UK, or the ~2 million British citizens living in the EU. David Cameron will resign and an election may be called soon. There's a good chance Britain will enter prolonged recession, and the EU may disintegrate as a result of this....

Scotland may become independent as well!

Every cloud... ;)
#2 Jun 23 2016 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Seriously though, we're ******* This out beyond the looney-tunes scale of stupid things to do.
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I'm moving to Canada,
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#6 Jun 24 2016 at 3:32 AM Rating: Default
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Of course the irony is that Scotland recently in a similar referendum decided to still be in the UK, and now they are one of larger "remain" in the EU blocs. I hope Scotland and uh, Northern Island and Wales maybe just decide to leave the UK too.

I mean Northern Island. I mean Ireland. Those Catholics or whatever. Liam Neeson. or that My Left Foot guy.

I hope the Pound gets kicked in the dick. Some kind of global thing to remove it from any pricing thing or whatever. I am really dumb and money balance things. But still **** the Pound. De-list it from money markets!
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I hope a Mexican slits your throat in your sleep, and Trump makes your corpse into a rallying symbol for his immigration crusade. Hordes of air-horn wielding Trump supporters toot a piercing, off-key dirge as they swarm your funeral, pushing past your weeping loved ones (if any). Your gravestone becomes a shrine for white supremacists across the nation, until one day a radical Marxist smashes it up with a sledgehammer and pisses in your splintered open coffin.
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#9 Jun 24 2016 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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I hope a Mexican slits your throat in your sleep, and Trump makes your corpse into a rallying symbol for his immigration crusade. Hordes of air-horn wielding Trump supporters toot a piercing, off-key dirge as they swarm your funeral, pushing past your weeping loved ones (if any). Your gravestone becomes a shrine for white supremacists across the nation, until one day a radical Marxist smashes it up with a sledgehammer and ****** in your splintered open coffin.


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Britain didn't use the Euro, and they were in the free-travel passport zone, so what exactly did their EU membership entail that they were so upset about?
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#11 Jun 24 2016 at 8:01 AM Rating: Good
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Britains foreign policy decisions are mostly made based on how much chaos they can stir up on the continent. In this case, dragging their feet in the EU was deemed less effective than breaking it up.
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Britain didn't use the Euro, and they were in the free-travel passport zone, so what exactly did their EU membership entail that they were so upset about?

Immigrants.
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#13 Jun 24 2016 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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Yep, I heard they were going to dynamite the Chunnel to keep the French out.
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#14 Jun 24 2016 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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Britains foreign policy decisions are mostly made based on how much chaos they can stir up on the continent.
It's worked for thousands of years, why stop now?
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Demea wrote:
Britain didn't use the Euro, and they were in the free-travel passport zone, so what exactly did their EU membership entail that they were so upset about?

Here are the words of a British man on the subject. Note: I haven't actually watched the second one.


#16 Jun 24 2016 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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The guy in the videos is essentially disclaiming stuff he disagrees with by quoting stuff he agrees with. Some of the arguments are moderately persuasive, specifically the inevitability of a European federal state and the redundancy of a European army with NATO, but I'm guessing that lots of Europeans would be happy with a superstate.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to reiterate that having a shared currency subject to independent fiscal policy decisions of multiple member nations was and continues to be a terrible idea. Although this doesn't directly affect Britain as it does Euro countries, they are (until now, I suppose) forced to subsidize the fiscal policy decisions of other member states (Spain, Portugal, Greece, etc.) with EU membership fees. I completely understand the desire to escape the negative impacts of fiscal policy decisions of other countries over which they have no say.
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I don't have a lot of strong opinions on the Brexit thing although if I was asked to pick a side I'd have gone with staying.

However, my wife writes some freelance stuff for a UK publication and her pay was negotiated in pounds. So, overnight, she took a 10% pay cut. Yaaaayyyyy....

Fortunately, it's coming up on the end of this term and the money is supplemental to our incomes rather than part of our living stash.
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#18 Jun 24 2016 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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I think it'd be fun to convert my money to pounds.

Not the currency, the weight.
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However, my wife writes some freelance stuff for a UK publication...

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#20 Jun 24 2016 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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The problems of EU membership for Britain are uncontrolled migration from other members states, lack of a fully independent foreign policy, some surrendering of sovereignty (though not really), and paying Brussels something like ~$500 million a week for the pleasure of it (though we get a lot of this back). No serious economist thinks any of this is a net negative for us compared to the huge benefits conferred in terms of trade, security, and population growth, not least because we need immigration to pay for an ageing population and it helps us pay off our debt. The Brexit vote has already been described as the first DIY recession. The government has pursued an austerity agenda and so public services are hurting and there's a severe shortage of homes, and unskilled workers are having to compete with Europeans who'll work harder than them for less money - this pressure caused us to leave. Most people in Britain don't have a ******* clue what the EU and absolutely no one knows what will happen when we go, they just voted because they're pissed off with status quo. Islamophobia may play a role, even though immigrants from the EU aren't muslims, but if common sense had anything to do with it we wouldn't be here anyway. It's pretty much like voting

[ ] Status Quo
[ ] ??????????

and people were finally pissed enough to actually tick no. 2.

The monetary union's function is to allow productive states like Germany to flood the markets of poorer countries like Greece, who can't protect their own industries through monetary policy or tariffs because they're tied to euro and the eu. In a way bail-outs are basically subsidies for the poor countries, but in another way they're compensation for this reality.
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Personally, I am mildly happy about this, but then I do want EU to implode ( frankly, I am not uncertain if it is US's long term goal anyway ). It is still ways off, but it makes it a little more likely. Only mildly happy, mind. There will be a fair amount of Pollacks coming back to the old country and raising unemployment back to official %30; just like the old days.

Still, mildly happy.
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#22 Jun 25 2016 at 3:28 AM Rating: Default
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I'm likely a hell of a lot closer to Cesar Chavez and further away from Trump than you are. Sir Simpleton. That is, if that vomitous response was meant for me.

Try to learn some things even in old age, stunted brain person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLYqTZKEpvs

And on topic, it's hilarious how Brexiters are so bold as to claim that little will change via negotiations. This is the unique and only exit so far, and the entirety other of the EU would/should make an example of the suffering such an exit would/should have. Not saying any of this is wrong/right/etc, but it's just what any body would do to heavily punish the first who leaves in order to show any others thinking of leaving that it's a bad idea that would have serious negative repercussions. Just simple logic. UK will suffer for this, and rightfully so. And as example. Hopefully N. Ireland and Scotland can get off that and not suffer as much.

P.S. UK, you haven't been a world power since well, 1940 in terms of war, and much longer ago since your colonization empire, India, America, etc. Do you see the Dutch making hay now and threatening the EU, jealous of their past power? Spain? Portugal? Mongolia? Face it, you aren't actually all that much nowadays. Sorry. Have fun being kicked to the curb by the more powerful body, the EU. Find more of your dead king corpses under parking lots plz.
#23 Jun 25 2016 at 4:38 AM Rating: Good
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it's just what any body would do to heavily punish the first who leaves in order to show any others thinking of leaving that it's a bad idea that would have serious negative repercussions. Just simple logic.
Like how East Germany used to shoot people trying to escape to West Germany?
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#24 Jun 25 2016 at 4:48 AM Rating: Good
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That's the point. You become an icon for a bunch of people you despise and as a result people that share your beliefs **** in your grave.

You want some education? Okay. If it isn't sufficiently adult for your tastes feel free to paw your tiny cock while you read it.

1) British decolonisation hadn't even begun by 1940, the bulk of it took place in the decades following WWII.

2) Britain's military was still world class in 1940. It had the largest navy in the world, still, the USA having not yet built the monstrous fleet it would end the war with.

3) More than Britain, Portugal clung to its colonies, re-terming them overseas provinces and refusing to accept transfer of even its smallest enclaves to the independent Indian government; it only gave up its last African colonies in 74, after more than a decade of violence and some two hundred thousand deaths. The French, who you didn't mention, had a similar experience in Algeria, and remains the gendarme of Africa to this day. British decolonisation was, on the other hand, relatively peaceful.

The whole 'British clinging to imperial past thing' is a great story, but that's all it is. The UK's far less hung up about it than a lot of other European countries. Brexit was largely the result of modern English nationalism, stirred up by fears about immigration and its perceived impact of living standards, not nostalgia for a bygone imperial past.
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#25 Jun 25 2016 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
I voted for Britain to leave the EU because I believe it's in the nation's best interests in the long term. To start with so many EU countries are in or on the brink of serious financial hardships it was only a matter of time before we joined them then we would have been in 1 almighty mess not to mention that the EU leaders want to drag us to war with Russia. After all my grandparents and forefathers went to war twice to stop Britain falling under EU rule and what the EU is doing now is just another way of achieving what they couldn;t in the past in a more peaceful way. EU not for me !! Thankyou to all of you that voted the same way that I did.
#26 Jun 25 2016 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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In the plus column it's momentarily taken some of the world's eyes off Trump Hilary 2016.

Also maybe it'll spur Texas into seceding again.
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