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#127 Nov 12 2019 at 5:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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#128 Dec 10 2019 at 11:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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What date was your 1st post, Driftwood?
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#129 Dec 13 2019 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Carpet bomb mine with ups. Driftwood for Sage. It's been years since my name was green.

I can't remember what the score is for sage, but you're quite a ways off
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#130 Dec 13 2019 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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What date was your 1st post, Driftwood?



I think it was February 2005 maybe? Hard to tell as Kao and Dana nuked my first 600 posts or so because I spammed Mr. Hands on every single board on the site.


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Carpet bomb mine with ups. Driftwood for Sage. It's been years since my name was green.

I can't remember what the score is for sage, but you're quite a ways off


Wasn't it 3.60 or 3.70 or something?

Edited, Dec 13th 2019 12:22pm by Driftwood
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#131 Dec 14 2019 at 2:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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If this stoopid site wont let me rate up anyone but lolgaxe, then what's the point?






Apple-polo-loggies to lolgaxe.
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#132 Dec 31 2019 at 10:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just picked a random one from the middle to break the wall of Bijou
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#133 Jan 06 2020 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wasn't it 3.60 or 3.70 or something?
That sounds right, you're at 3.09
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#134 Jan 06 2020 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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#135 Jan 19 2020 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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They're forcing me to be a world leader. Aliens have a vested interested in me. we need a candidate to support universal basic income, with universal healthcare, and free education. Cut the massive spending on the military budget by at least 15%, allocate funding from an automation tax instituted on every person that has lost a job to automation. Automation is wrecking jobs across the board, and will automate 50-70% of jobs in the next 20 years, and 100% of jobs after that, after the fact an AGI is invented. Help the poor out now before there is a revolution.

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#136 Jan 22 2020 at 6:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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#137 Jan 28 2020 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hah. NO. ;)

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They're forcing me to be a world leader. Aliens have a vested interested in me. we need a candidate to support universal basic income, with universal healthcare, and free education.


Don't we? Several in fact. Or have you not been watching the Dem debates?

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Cut the massive spending on the military budget by at least 15%


Why? More specifically, why that amount? Would not the you in 5 years after we performed such a cut not be able to still make the exact same demand? Kinda arbitrary.


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...allocate funding from an automation tax instituted on every person that has lost a job to automation. Automation is wrecking jobs across the board, and will automate 50-70% of jobs in the next 20 years, and 100% of jobs after that, after the fact an AGI is invented.


Replace the word "automation" with things like "plows", "ovens", "aqueducts", and "the wheel". Same silly argument. And just as wrong. Anything that acts as a labor multiplier is a good thing. Period.

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Help the poor out now before there is a revolution.


The best way to "help the poor" is to make them not be poor. And the best way to do that is to ensure a healthy booming economy where jobs are plentiful. And in a world where a given level of technology exists, that means using that technology to maximize the real value of labor in the workforce. Honestly, your's is a strange argument to be making (yet remarkably consistent to ones I've heard over my entire adult life) when we have pretty much record low unemployment across the board.


It's like there is no threshhold at which you'll ever say "this is enough", but rather you'll make the same arguments regardless of actual economic conditions. Interesting...
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#138 Jan 28 2020 at 11:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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On a lighter note, I seem to be able to rate at will now.

I even rated gbaji up.








I mean, sure, I damned my soul by doing so, but hey, it works again!!Smiley: tongue
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#139 Jan 29 2020 at 3:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Carpet bomb mine with ups. Driftwood for Sage. It's been years since my name was green.


In the height of the site, I would say being "Sage" probably meant that you played it safe.
#140 Jan 29 2020 at 7:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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RPSMU
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#141 Jan 30 2020 at 1:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Driftwood wrote:
Carpet bomb mine with ups. Driftwood for Sage. It's been years since my name was green.


In the height of the site, I would say being "Sage" probably meant that you played it safe.
I got Sage by drawing pictures.


YMMV.
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#142 Jan 30 2020 at 2:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hey, I SAID: RPSMU. Or else!





(...he will be sad if you don't)

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#143 Jan 30 2020 at 2:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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accidentally rated LordVader up while testing the new functionality
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#144 Jan 30 2020 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jeesum! I tried to open a new account for this site as the tag on this one is offensive to skeletons, but it was all so picky.

Universal Healthcare - yes. shoulda been done long ago. there is no place for humane medical care in a free market capitalistic system and simply ignoring the health needs of the masses threatens the survival of the species. coronavirus anyone? (jk it was over-hyped)

Universal basic income - not yet. there are still lots of human jobs to be created and fulfilled. for example, we can put people's mobility back into action. Amazon's delivery drones can be supplemented with the fleet footed human. delivery on foot - imagine! there's other stuff. there could be a law mandating that graves cannot be dug with machines. think how many peeps could make a living digging graves.

the country needs a make-over badly. infrastructure does not support our future.

I'm still with Warren - even doing a bit o' campaigning for her. you?
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#145 Jan 30 2020 at 7:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I indiscriminately rated up all posts within reach. worked fabulously.
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#146 Jan 30 2020 at 8:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
Universal Healthcare - yes. shoulda been done long ago. there is no place for humane medical care in a free market capitalistic system and simply ignoring the health needs of the masses threatens the survival of the species. coronavirus anyone? (jk it was over-hyped)?

I'll support universal health care as soon as any candidate proposing it finds a way to actually pay for it. "Moar taxes on billionaires" isn't a solution; it's virtue signaling (and I don't think any candidate other than Bernie would actually pursue it).
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#147 Jan 31 2020 at 8:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Universal Healthcare - yes. shoulda been done long ago. there is no place for humane medical care in a free market capitalistic system and simply ignoring the health needs of the masses threatens the survival of the species. coronavirus anyone? (jk it was over-hyped)?

I'll support universal health care as soon as any candidate proposing it finds a way to actually pay for it. "Moar taxes on billionaires" isn't a solution; it's virtue signaling (and I don't think any candidate other than Bernie would actually pursue it).
Lol, you said 'virtue signaling'.

Universal healthcare will cost our government. Ergo it will cost the taxpayer. But doing nothing - continuing to let the industry run our healthcare system will only cause us to continue to see healthcare costs soar into ridiculousness, and our actual healthcare procedures driven by profit. Not only will the middle class will continue it's decline into poverty - our communities will get sicker, addictions will continue and all those data points - life expectancy, infant mortality, death by drugs/suicide, will continue to worsen.

The last financial work up I saw (pre-election interference) estimated an individual cost just under $5.00/month/person requiring an employer match of about the same.

There's no way to get out of the healthcare disaster we're in without putting up some bucks and it will be ALL tax-payers shouldering the burden, not just the rich.

The big 'but' here is if some genius is actually able to get this country's healthcare on track while also softening the fall of the health insurance industry, costs should drop dramatically and all should see less money going towards bogus healthcare.


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#148 Feb 01 2020 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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There's no way to get out of the healthcare disaster we're in without putting up some bucks and it will be ALL tax-payers shouldering the burden, not just the rich.

Agreed. Have any candidates actually said this? Have any of them explicitly said they are going to raise taxes on everyone to pay for it? Last I checked, Warren is planning to pay for universal healthcare with her wealth tax (which is likely unconstitutional, won't cover the cost, and which she's also earmarked to pay for about a half dozen other things). Biden mentions increasing the top marginal federal income tax rate to what it was during the Obama years (which won't close the deficit, much less pay for a public option). Bernie is going to buy drugs from Canada (lol). Yang just mentions "controlling prescription drug prices" and "investing in telehealth".

It might be effective campaigning to say you're going to pay for universal healthcare by Taking On Big Pharma And Evil Lobbyists, but it's not going to change the math in any meaningful way. They all know it, but none of them will say it.
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#149 Feb 03 2020 at 11:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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It might be effective campaigning to say you're going to pay for universal healthcare by Taking On Big Pharma And Evil Lobbyists, but it's not going to change the math in any meaningful way.
Actually being accountable for your claims hasn't really been an issue since like ... the 50s? It was definitely gone by the 80s.
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#150 Feb 04 2020 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
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It might be effective campaigning to say you're going to pay for universal healthcare by Taking On Big Pharma And Evil Lobbyists, but it's not going to change the math in any meaningful way.
Actually being accountable for your claims hasn't really been an issue since like ... the 50s? It was definitely gone by the 80s.

Warren has dodged the question about raising taxes and instead preaches that in the end the average american will be spending less over-all on healthcare/taxes. I think she's right, but that's forecasting and ignores all the pains along the way. The health insurance industry employs a lot of people.

Hey lolgaxe how goes the war?
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#151 Feb 06 2020 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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Not going anywhere, but it's not going anywhere without me.
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