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#77REDACTED, Posted: Sep 17 2008 at 6:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh, this post proves that you are just a child with excesive time free to lose..
#78 Sep 17 2008 at 6:23 AM Rating: Good
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Jereth, Lionze, Alberto, Yugon.

Stop. I thought you wanted this conflict to end but you all are just adding more fuel to the fire. I asked for a cease fire. You're disrespecting me and all my attempts to help this situation. Just because other people are attacking you doesn't mean you go ahead and attack back. That doesn't mean they'll stop. It just provokes more. You're making me look like a complete idiot in any posts I make. Yes, I am upset with you four. The lack of common sense seems to preceive you all. All of you posting in this thread are representing our linkshell. They way you're handling this reflects us all. Tanosis is the only one that posted with a clear head. Now unless you want this dramafest to continue please listen to my request. Either stop or think before you post. Please.

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 8:19am by Kysah
#79 Sep 17 2008 at 6:28 AM Rating: Default
Kysah wrote:
Jereth, Lionze, Alberto, Yugon.

Stop. I thought you wanted this conflict to end but you all are just adding more fuel to the fire. I asked for a cease fire. You're disrespecting me and all my attempts to help this situation. Just because other people are attacking you doesn't mean you go ahead and attack back. That doesn't mean they'll stop. It just provokes more. You're making me look like a complete idiot in any posts I make. Yes, I am upset with you four. The lack of common sense seems to preceive you all. All of you posting in this thread are representing our linkshell. They way you're handling this reflects us all. Tanosis is the only one that posted with a clear head. Now unless you want this dramafest to continue please listen to my request. Either stop or think before you post. Please.


This Bummage idiot as gone so far as to start digging into my work. Sorry Kysah, but that's not even dynamis related, and I won't simply not defend my line of work and/or credibility on a public forum simply because of some childish ****** who was neglected by his mommy.
#80 Sep 17 2008 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
Epic thread ^^

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 10:40am by PangArt
#81REDACTED, Posted: Sep 17 2008 at 6:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) totally true, these child is going so far..
#82 Sep 17 2008 at 6:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Fine... play their game.
#83 Sep 17 2008 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
Kysah, I truly appreciate what you are trying to do. You are too good to be in StarsMaker.
#84 Sep 17 2008 at 6:53 AM Rating: Default
Jereth wrote:

This Bummage idiot as gone so far as to start digging into my work.


I haven't dug into your work, lol. I have absolutely no idea what you do, if anything, and I really don't care. You're the one who brought up your supposed line of work, which I simply proved to be lie...by your own words.

Jereth wrote:

Sorry Kysah, but that's not even dynamis related,


Then why did you bring it up? If it isn't dynamis related, why bring the status of your employment into the conversation at all? I mean, come on. You actually have the audacity to cry about the topic of your work coming up, when YOU initiated that part of the conversation in the first place?

Jereth wrote:

and I won't simply not defend my line of work and/or credibility on a public forum simply because of some childish ****** who was neglected by his mommy.


...all of you are so fascinated with my mother. Odd.
#85 Sep 17 2008 at 7:34 AM Rating: Default
Kysah wrote:

The reason for Sandoria's run today is because not all our members have access.


I understand the runs are Sunday and Wednesday. Sandy is free next Wednesday. Couldn't it have been scheduled then? There would be no conflict at all under those circumstances, and no one in the StarsMaker forum who needs Sandy cleared has said they can only do it today, and not next week.

What that would mean is StarsMaker would have to compromise, but that is what organization is all about. Once StarsMaker started using the calender to schedule their runs, then other linkshells would have to compromise for them. Once a routine is set up, then it becomes a fair paying field with StarsMaker making compromises for others, and others making compromises for StarsMaker.

Kysah wrote:

I am hoping to get us to start the run at least one hour early today to avoid this conflict.


Starting an hour early is not going to avoid a conflict. When the other shell shows up and notices all of StarsMaker in there, I'm sure there will be a series of unpleasant /tells between members as has happened on previous days.

I don't think I'm alone in saying that if you were to apply to any other dynamis linkshells that run on Wednesdays/Sundays, you would be heavily endorsed. You are a voice of reason and most likely an excellent player. The same cannot be said of other members of StarsMaker. Like I said before, you are too good for StarsMaker. You deserve better.
#86 Sep 17 2008 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
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Thank you Bummage. I just want everyone semi peaceful again. As I stated before there is a Sandoria run today, but I want to see if we can just move to Beaucedine all together. Reason being is the few members that need Sandoria anyways won't be there. If people in the ls insist tho in doing Sandoria I would like at least one hour earlier. If not more. I don't want to get in anyone's way and I'm trying my best to avoid it.

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 9:51am by Kysah
#87 Sep 17 2008 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
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And I do have to commend you on your ability to post in a more leveled headed way than I. Racism/prejudice behavior is a big issue for me, and when I see people discrediting American people...or Black people, it sends me to a level of debate that few survive, myself included.Lionze and Jereth (Mule) have shown themselves to be two of the most despicable rejects in the Ragnarok community.


Honestly, yes the anti america quotes were much, but several people here not part of the linkshell said anti spanish slurs. "lolJAJA" players is a term often used to describe the EU players on the game, really its a bit hypocritical of the people who said that in the dynamis ls warning post (which, i mind you, was posted before Lionzes made his post). Really that's not much better than what he did. I'm in no way defending him. I've been guilty of saying loljaja players quite a few time. I'm half cuban and noticed this immediately. It's funny that anti spanish is universally accepted by american players but as soon as someone throws an anti american phrase on the forums, he gets berated.

Again, THIS ISN'T SAYING WHAT HE SAID WAS RIGHT! It's just one of those double standards i seem to notice. Especially considering that both anti nation/race were in these 3 threads.



Edited, Sep 17th 2008 12:19pm by Tokyorose
#88REDACTED, Posted: Sep 17 2008 at 8:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) As an example to refute on of your stupid, baseless, and retarded points. I assume your memory extends further than 10 minutes? Far be it from me to assume most people aren't psycho stalkers. I guess I was wrong and gave you too much benefit of the doubt. My bad.
#89 Sep 17 2008 at 8:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kysah,

I would like to point out that Worship The Floor has Dynamis-Beaucdedine scheduled tonight at 9:00PM EDT. We have had this Calendar reservation in place for quite some time, and I would very much appreciate it if you made whatever arrangements necessary to prevent us from starting late.

The zones that are free today are Bastok, Qufim, Valkurm, and Tavnazia. While I know the only practical run for you would be Bastok, some times choices like that must be made. If you are unable to start San d'Oria at a time that does not interfere with Nov Orsa, or a time that does not delay our Beaucedine run then perhaps the only alternative left is a Bastok.

Personally, although it's not the funnest zone out there it can be quite profitable. Add in also the new additions of the BLU, COR, and PUP AF possibilities and it's not completely intolerable.
#90 Sep 17 2008 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
Kysah wrote:
Jereth, Lionze, Alberto, Yugon.

Stop. I thought you wanted this conflict to end but you all are just adding more fuel to the fire. I asked for a cease fire. You're disrespecting me and all my attempts to help this situation. Just because other people are attacking you doesn't mean you go ahead and attack back. That doesn't mean they'll stop. It just provokes more. You're making me look like a complete idiot in any posts I make. Yes, I am upset with you four. The lack of common sense seems to preceive you all. All of you posting in this thread are representing our linkshell. They way you're handling this reflects us all. Tanosis is the only one that posted with a clear head. Now unless you want this dramafest to continue please listen to my request. Either stop or think before you post. Please.

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 8:19am by Kysah


Kysah - out of all the LS members who have come to the forums and had their say, you are the one who has shown the greatest level of maturity. Your leader is letting you down, continuing to stir up this issue, as are other members who continue to sling insults . I'd honestly recommend to you thatyou start your own Dyna LS, taking with you the good members who have the maturity to deal with this game, and leaving behind those who have displayed a lack of maturity and will drag your name down with them.

You alone of the LS have displayed the type of good coummunication and diplomacy skills that are needed in a good leader. You alone of the LS have shown yourself to be willing to change and to adapt in finding a solution that works for everyone.
#91 Sep 17 2008 at 8:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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I would like to point out that Worship The Floor has Dynamis-Beaucdedine scheduled tonight at 9:00PM EDT. We have had this Calendar reservation in place for quite some time, and I would very much appreciate it if you made whatever arrangements necessary to prevent us from starting late.


I appoligize, I didn't see that on the calendar. Still learning to use it. Our runs start at 7:30 EST. So I guess that would run into your run. The dreamworld areas I don't believe alot of us have access to, tho I would love to start doing those. I'm gonna look at the calendar again to see what we can do.
#92 Sep 17 2008 at 9:08 AM Rating: Default
SoramimiCake wrote:
Kysah,

I would like to point out that Worship The Floor has Dynamis-Beaucdedine scheduled tonight at 9:00PM EDT. We have had this Calendar reservation in place for quite some time, and I would very much appreciate it if you made whatever arrangements necessary to prevent us from starting late.

The zones that are free today are Bastok, Qufim, Valkurm, and Tavnazia. While I know the only practical run for you would be Bastok, some times choices like that must be made. If you are unable to start San d'Oria at a time that does not interfere with Nov Orsa, or a time that does not delay our Beaucedine run then perhaps the only alternative left is a Bastok.

Personally, although it's not the funnest zone out there it can be quite profitable. Add in also the new additions of the BLU, COR, and PUP AF possibilities and it's not completely intolerable.


there is no problem for me to go to bastok if the leaders want, but i think that you are confused. the only run that apear today at 9pm EDT is Sparkle in to Dynamis buburimu, not beaucedine.
#93 Sep 17 2008 at 9:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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AlbertoMango wrote:
there is no problem for me to go to bastok if the leaders want, but i think that you are confused. the only run that apear today at 9pm EDT is Sparkle in to Dynamis buburimu, not beaucedine.


With all due respect, you are not reading the Calendar properly. Perhaps you are not registered on the forum, or have not set your proper time zone.

The Linkshells doing Dynamis today Wednesday, September 17th are:


Nov Orsa: Dynamis San d'Oria at 9:00PM EDT

Onigiri: Dynamis Jeuno at 9:00PM EDT

Woot: Dynamis Windurst at 8:30PM EDT

Sparkle And Fade: Dynamis Buburimu at 9:00PM EDT

Absolute Virtual: Dynamis Xarcabard at 2:00PM EDT

And lastly... My LS

Worship The Floor:
Dynamis Beaucedine at 9:00PM EDT
#94 Sep 17 2008 at 10:09 AM Rating: Default
oh, yes, is because of the time zone, maybe cause im not registered as you said.
i see your ls on thursday at 9pm EDT and our time will be Wedns at 7:30PM EST.
But yes,seems that is about the same time on gtm.

sorry then, my fault.
#95 Sep 17 2008 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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Glad to see that people are sorta starting to work together to get these issues resolved. After speaking with some members from Starsmakers on last Sunday, this was the communication I was hoping to achieve between the groups. If not using the calendar, at least arranging with leaders to figure out where compromises and changes could be made. All arguing and bickering aside, I have no qualms with any of the affected Dyna-LS and if this doesn't eliminate the issue, I hope it at least mitigates some of the frustrations occuring with double-bookings and misunderstandings. Happy Drops today!
#96 Sep 17 2008 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
Bad news Icefloe. In the other thread that got sub-defaulted of the page, Lionze made the following comment:

Lionze wrote:

OK to end this, after no solution we will still play as we have been playing, so dont get pissed if we break your plans in two.
SE have a list of the ppl attacking our ls and are about to being kicked if keep insulting us in game, about bummage u are denounced to the autorities of my country by making public my personal pictures. enjoy
#97 Sep 17 2008 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Bummage wrote:
Bad news Icefloe. In the other thread that got sub-defaulted of the page, Lionze made the following comment:


I noticed too that the two posts that Lionze made are no longer on the list. I will admit I only registered here to comment on all of this, so the Allakhzam forums are new to me. What exactly happened with the posts? I would hate to come to know they have been removed some how so that people cannot see for themselves what all has happened here.
#98 Sep 17 2008 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
SoramimiCake wrote:

I noticed too that the two posts that Lionze made are no longer on the list. I will admit I only registered here to comment on all of this, so the Allakhzam forums are new to me. What exactly happened with the posts? I would hate to come to know they have been removed some how so that people cannot see for themselves what all has happened here.


The members that have Scholar status and higher here on the boards are able to rate member's posts. If the original post in a thread gets rated down enough, it goes into sub-default status and becomes invisible on the main board. If you go to your user-page by clicking on your name (not your name to the left in a post, but at the top of the page), you can choose to view "your posts." Doing this will being up the list of all your most recent posts, including any you posted in threads that have been sub-defaulted. you can use this to access a thread if it has been sub-defaulted off the page.

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 3:44pm by Bummage
#99 Sep 17 2008 at 11:50 AM Rating: Default
SoramimiCake wrote:
What exactly happened with the posts?


You have change your filter settings at the top of the message list now to see them. It, um, has a sub-default ranking now. lol
#100 Sep 17 2008 at 11:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you kindly, both of you. Fixed the settings to filter none.
#101 Sep 17 2008 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
SoramimiCake wrote:

Thank you kindly, both of you. Fixed the settings to filter none.


no problem, and it looks like a lot of people like your posts here, you're getting rated up quite a bit. Pretty soon you'll turn yellow and have the power of the red/green arrows. You'll be able click to rate people's posts too. Those arrows will appear to the right of each post, so click to your hearts content.

I used to have the power of the arrows, but I admittingly have a loose tongue when it comes to my opinions on things, so I tend to ignore the rating system for the most part and speak how I feel.
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