My bigger question was where in the hell where all the beastmasters when that SE rep came down from that all high and mighty place and asked us how to stop MPKing? I bet as soon as some of them read about how fellow fourm posters the solved the exploitation of territories idea then they should have spoke up then, well before the update, you guys had a month to make a change and failed to act upon it. Now you are reaping the crops of inaction and probably very unfourtunately your not going to see another change until they get done with getting prepared for expansion pack.
Then again I can see why you guys would not read such threads as you mostly deal in soloing and havent have to mess around with the goddam MPKing.
I also want to add that removing RMT Mpking gilsellers wasnt fixing the problem at all, they just respawn as different characters and have the same accursed playing behaviors of agression and hostility. Using spin's terminology eliminating this reoccuring disease wasnt going anywhere fast while the symptoms continued to make us suffer further and greater deal. The recent change makes it harder to MPK now and those new exploits that Spin shrak MIGHT have found, would eventually be exposed and those would eventually be dealt with as well, who knows what other job it might mess up then if that change comes.
As far as im concerned the japanese beastmasters player base isnt freaking out and are continuing the level grind any way they could.
As for now the best any of you beast masters can do is complain, I have yet seen any suggestions from any of you that would allow the best of both worlds. The only thing I thought of was expand the 'territorial boundry' of the mobs under the influence of charm. And Ill say this and will say it again, if they left beast master's pets unharmed you beastmasters will most likely wind up with a new and less favorable stero-type, MPKer, and I know no job wants to wind up with that title. Think about it, until shark mentions how he mpks with normal mobs (i assume they are normal exp mobs) the next most obvious method of mpking is using leave on a linking/aggroing mob right next to a party/targets.
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Touche....
With a Fleuret.
On a much more on topic note, the above poster is right.
100%
But seriously, to contribute: Please pleaseplease don't use the "well I've tried soloing and it don't work no more" argument, because that's obviously the case. Your older tactics have been pulled out from under you.
Find another way. It's not like you got all your stats or charmped creature stats halved. All this did was delegitimise a particular strategy. Are you seriously proposing that that is the only way possible to get any EXP solo? Period? or is that all you've really tried because that's all that's worked?
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:14:53 2005 by Shopee
With a Fleuret.
On a much more on topic note, the above poster is right.
100%
But seriously, to contribute: Please pleaseplease don't use the "well I've tried soloing and it don't work no more" argument, because that's obviously the case. Your older tactics have been pulled out from under you.
Find another way. It's not like you got all your stats or charmped creature stats halved. All this did was delegitimise a particular strategy. Are you seriously proposing that that is the only way possible to get any EXP solo? Period? or is that all you've really tried because that's all that's worked?
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:14:53 2005 by Shopee
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My bigger question was where in the hell where all the beastmasters when that SE rep came down from that all high and mighty place and asked us how to stop MPKing? I bet as soon as some of them read about how fellow fourm posters the solved the exploitation of territories idea then they should have spoke up then, well before the update, you guys had a month to make a change and failed to act upon it. Now you are reaping the crops of inaction and probably very unfourtunately your not going to see another change until they get done with getting prepared for expansion pack.
Then again I can see why you guys would not read such threads as you mostly deal in soloing and havent have to mess around with the goddam MPKing.
I also want to add that removing RMT Mpking gilsellers wasnt fixing the problem at all, they just respawn as different characters and have the same accursed playing behaviors of agression and hostility. Using spin's terminology eliminating this reoccuring disease wasnt going anywhere fast while the symptoms continued to make us suffer further and greater deal. The recent change makes it harder to MPK now and those new exploits that Spin shrak MIGHT have found, would eventually be exposed and those would eventually be dealt with as well, who knows what other job it might mess up then if that change comes.
As far as im concerned the japanese beastmasters player base isnt freaking out and are continuing the level grind any way they could.
As for now the best any of you beast masters can do is complain, I have yet seen any suggestions from any of you that would allow the best of both worlds. The only thing I thought of was expand the 'territorial boundry' of the mobs under the influence of charm. And Ill say this and will say it again, if they left beast master's pets unharmed you beastmasters will most likely wind up with a new and less favorable stero-type, MPKer, and I know no job wants to wind up with that title. Think about it, until shark mentions how he mpks with normal mobs (i assume they are normal exp mobs) the next most obvious method of mpking is using leave on a linking/aggroing mob right next to a party/targets.
Then again I can see why you guys would not read such threads as you mostly deal in soloing and havent have to mess around with the goddam MPKing.
I also want to add that removing RMT Mpking gilsellers wasnt fixing the problem at all, they just respawn as different characters and have the same accursed playing behaviors of agression and hostility. Using spin's terminology eliminating this reoccuring disease wasnt going anywhere fast while the symptoms continued to make us suffer further and greater deal. The recent change makes it harder to MPK now and those new exploits that Spin shrak MIGHT have found, would eventually be exposed and those would eventually be dealt with as well, who knows what other job it might mess up then if that change comes.
As far as im concerned the japanese beastmasters player base isnt freaking out and are continuing the level grind any way they could.
As for now the best any of you beast masters can do is complain, I have yet seen any suggestions from any of you that would allow the best of both worlds. The only thing I thought of was expand the 'territorial boundry' of the mobs under the influence of charm. And Ill say this and will say it again, if they left beast master's pets unharmed you beastmasters will most likely wind up with a new and less favorable stero-type, MPKer, and I know no job wants to wind up with that title. Think about it, until shark mentions how he mpks with normal mobs (i assume they are normal exp mobs) the next most obvious method of mpking is using leave on a linking/aggroing mob right next to a party/targets.
You're an idiot. The bst were the primary contributors to that thread. In fact there were duplicate threads in the bst forums making sure we all knew about it...
I could go on, but you are obviously one card short of a full deck, so it wouldnt matter.
Well aren't we civil this morning.
Would you like some coffee, sweetie pie?
(I'm beginning to agree with Beastmasters on one thing: keep 'em solo! I don't want to party with people this vicious)
Would you like some coffee, sweetie pie?
(I'm beginning to agree with Beastmasters on one thing: keep 'em solo! I don't want to party with people this vicious)
Eat a **** Shopee
So who's sock are you?
So who's sock are you?
Shopee wrote:
Touche....
With a Fleuret.
On a much more on topic note, the above poster is right.
100%
But seriously, to contribute: Please pleaseplease don't use the "well I've tried soloing and it don't work no more" argument, because that's obviously the case. Your older tactics have been pulled out from under you.
Find another way. It's not like you got all your stats or charmped creature stats halved. All this did was delegitimise a particular strategy. Are you seriously proposing that that is the only way possible to get any EXP solo? Period? or is that all you've really tried because that's all that's worked?
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:14:53 2005 by Shopee
With a Fleuret.
On a much more on topic note, the above poster is right.
100%
But seriously, to contribute: Please pleaseplease don't use the "well I've tried soloing and it don't work no more" argument, because that's obviously the case. Your older tactics have been pulled out from under you.
Find another way. It's not like you got all your stats or charmped creature stats halved. All this did was delegitimise a particular strategy. Are you seriously proposing that that is the only way possible to get any EXP solo? Period? or is that all you've really tried because that's all that's worked?
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:14:53 2005 by Shopee
You, and the above poster, have obviously never played BST. Why do people want to assume it's just because BST are too lazy to adapt. Are you insane? Adapting is what the job is about, and they have really taken away the ability to do so. The "particular strategy" you are talking about, is solo xp. Yes there are still some camps that work, but at MANY levels there will be maybe 1 solo camp in vanadiel where you can get more than 1k/hour without dying, or none. I guess maybe alot of these non-BST saying "just adapt" don't want to believe our job got ruined, so they can feel better telling us to shut up, but I've got news for you: our job is ruined, and we are NOT shutting up.
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First off, I need to get something out in the open here. If you haven't taken BST to 35 and have no experience soloing with the "Leave" ability, you are unqualified to give an opinion. If you do, you fail; it's as simple as that.
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:23:27 2005 by TheRielist
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:23:55 2005 by TheRielist
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(I'm beginning to agree with Beastmasters on one thing: keep 'em solo! I don't want to party with people this vicious)
Oh CRAP, you don't want me in your slow-****** downtimed, die-on-the-way-to-camp, hours-lfg honor roll of an EXP party?
No thanks. You can take your exp party and keep it, have fun....for the next six hours...as your behind slowly fuses with your chair.
Make sure you find a replacement, when you do crawl back to real life.
he only thing that gets me about the situation at the moment is the "holier than thou" attitude floating around.
Yeh, you can solo, but you're not the only ones that can.
Yeh, you can solo, but you're not the only ones that can.
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sock puppet? troll?
on a more civil note...
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My bigger question was where in the hell where all the beastmasters when that SE rep came down from that all high and mighty place and asked us how to stop MPKing?
There actually were a large number of beastmasters that contributed to that thread, there also was a duplicate thread of it on the beastmaster forum.
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As for now the best any of you beast masters can do is complain I have yet seen any suggestions from any of you that would allow the best of both worlds.
How about pets that have been left by a beastmaster go back to their spawn point without aggro? There have been numerious suggestions on both this board and the beastmaster board to solve this problem.
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:31:41 2005 by StoneSkin
I knew the rate downs would come. I was just waitin' for that one.
That's always the response. No, I don't know nearly as much as you about Beastmasters, in fact probably not much.
But here's the deal:
Withing twenty four hours of the update you have created a preconceived notion that your job is ruined. Period. You refuse to give that idea up, and so spend your time on these forums expressing that idea. It is your right to do so, and I have not rated anyone in this thread down for expressing their opinions on the matter.
However, I am an optimist, and I think it's a complete and utter waste to create a vicious cycle of "it's ruined" thought that keeps you from putting the effort it takes to adapt.
You have not tried to adapt.
Why not? Roughly over a day is never enough time. That's hardly any effort, especially if you spend large amounts of time here and not on the game.
I'm not going to make you adapt, because if you already assume axiomatically that your job is ruined you won't even try.
Sure, I always love meeting and socialising with new people (or my friends depending on the type of part). (^_^)
Because this automatically makes sure your assumption of the job being ruined becomes axiomatic truth. You are free to dismiss every person who disagrees, because Master says so, and gives what appears to be a good reason.
What's a sock, I mean other than what you wear on your feet.
Seriously, I've never run into this one before.
There it is again.
Last I checked trolls didn't actually try to contribute.
Note:
is 66% of Warchief's contributions.
They must be an uber troll then!
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:40:12 2005 by Shopee
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You, and the above poster, have obviously never played BST. Why do people want to assume it's just because BST are too lazy to adapt. Are you insane? Adapting is what the job is about, and they have really taken away the ability to do so. The "particular strategy" you are talking about, is solo xp. Yes there are still some camps that work, but at MANY levels there will be maybe 1 solo camp in vanadiel where you can get more than 1k/hour without dying, or none. I guess maybe alot of these non-BST saying "just adapt" don't want to believe our job got ruined, so they can feel better telling us to shut up, but I've got news for you: our job is ruined, and we are NOT shutting up.
That's always the response. No, I don't know nearly as much as you about Beastmasters, in fact probably not much.
But here's the deal:
Withing twenty four hours of the update you have created a preconceived notion that your job is ruined. Period. You refuse to give that idea up, and so spend your time on these forums expressing that idea. It is your right to do so, and I have not rated anyone in this thread down for expressing their opinions on the matter.
However, I am an optimist, and I think it's a complete and utter waste to create a vicious cycle of "it's ruined" thought that keeps you from putting the effort it takes to adapt.
You have not tried to adapt.
Why not? Roughly over a day is never enough time. That's hardly any effort, especially if you spend large amounts of time here and not on the game.
I'm not going to make you adapt, because if you already assume axiomatically that your job is ruined you won't even try.
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Oh CRAP, you don't want me in your slow-****** downtimed, die-on-the-way-to-camp, hours-lfg honor roll of an EXP party?
No thanks. You can take your exp party and keep it, have fun....for the next six hours...as your behind slowly fuses with your chair.
Make sure you find a replacement, when you do crawl back to real life.
No thanks. You can take your exp party and keep it, have fun....for the next six hours...as your behind slowly fuses with your chair.
Make sure you find a replacement, when you do crawl back to real life.
Sure, I always love meeting and socialising with new people (or my friends depending on the type of part). (^_^)
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First off, I need to get something out in the open here. If you haven't taken BST to 35 and have no experience soloing with the "Leave" ability, you are unqualified to give an opinion. If you do, you fail; it's as simple as that.
Because this automatically makes sure your assumption of the job being ruined becomes axiomatic truth. You are free to dismiss every person who disagrees, because Master says so, and gives what appears to be a good reason.
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So who's sock are you?
What's a sock, I mean other than what you wear on your feet.
Seriously, I've never run into this one before.
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sock puppet? troll?
There it is again.
Last I checked trolls didn't actually try to contribute.
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Eat a @#%^ Shopee
So who's sock are you?
So who's sock are you?
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Excellent post Spinshark
110% accurate
110% accurate
is 66% of Warchief's contributions.
They must be an uber troll then!
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:40:12 2005 by Shopee
k, you disagree with methodology
gotcha
now what?
gotcha
now what?
Depends, is the methodology to formally complain to SE in a civil manner?
Then I do not disagree with it.
Is the methodology to see if you can find an efficient means of soloing again?
Then no, I do not disagree with it.
Is the methodology making a thread with the starting post claiming it is absolute truth and making darn well sure anyone who would want to disagree (most non-Beastmasters who aren't overwhelmed by the pathological fear) is discounted by the current raving mob?
Then yes, I'd disagree.
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:44:07 2005 by Shopee
Then I do not disagree with it.
Is the methodology to see if you can find an efficient means of soloing again?
Then no, I do not disagree with it.
Is the methodology making a thread with the starting post claiming it is absolute truth and making darn well sure anyone who would want to disagree (most non-Beastmasters who aren't overwhelmed by the pathological fear) is discounted by the current raving mob?
Then yes, I'd disagree.
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:44:07 2005 by Shopee
I don't know how many will read this now....so many posts...
welcome to ninja, replacing jugs with inflated ninjutsu costs (hojo tools at 34k/stack? {Sweets})
Keep in mind, SE never intended for NIN to be a tank. You could be next and then be unable to do that job.
Remember that when you post that SE never intended BST to be solo.
Also, on a similar note, SE has acknowledged that we, the players, have changed the game. And they expected this...it's the true nature on an MMO. So what SE intended the job to be is irrelevant, because it's what we make of it that matters. And this nerf made BST almost, if not completely, unplayable.
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So now they're expected to take WAR to 37, farm for Sniper Rings and still have enough money for Jug Pets, Pet Food, Silent Oil, Prism Powder and Sushi?
welcome to ninja, replacing jugs with inflated ninjutsu costs (hojo tools at 34k/stack? {Sweets})
Keep in mind, SE never intended for NIN to be a tank. You could be next and then be unable to do that job.
Remember that when you post that SE never intended BST to be solo.
Also, on a similar note, SE has acknowledged that we, the players, have changed the game. And they expected this...it's the true nature on an MMO. So what SE intended the job to be is irrelevant, because it's what we make of it that matters. And this nerf made BST almost, if not completely, unplayable.
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Resistance would be impolite.
Please wait to be assimilated.
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Ok, Shopee, ******** so when it's gonna be that enough is enough, and FFXI becomes another mistake like SWG? Shove it up your *** with a fleuret.
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:47:10 2005 by Takumaku
Edited, Wed Dec 14 01:47:10 2005 by Takumaku
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Keep in mind, SE never intended for NIN to be a tank. You could be next and then be unable to do that job.
Remember that when you post that SE never intended BST to be solo.
Also, on a similar note, SE has acknowledged that we, the players, have changed the game. And they expected this...it's the true nature on an MMO. So what SE intended the job to be is irrelevant, because it's what we make of it that matters. And this nerf made BST almost, if not completely, unplayable.
Remember that when you post that SE never intended BST to be solo.
Also, on a similar note, SE has acknowledged that we, the players, have changed the game. And they expected this...it's the true nature on an MMO. So what SE intended the job to be is irrelevant, because it's what we make of it that matters. And this nerf made BST almost, if not completely, unplayable.
Very valid point. Of course, the last bit is the constantly repeated anthem of unplayability. But I've covered that.
I am levelling Paladin and, true, Ninja wasn't intended to be a tank and is in fact a preferred tank over Paladin in alot of circles. I wouldn't wish Squeenix to nerf Ninjas to take tanking away from them at all, nor would I wish what has happened to Beastmasters.
But all this pointless complaining about unplayability. Imagine what the Ninjas would say? "OMGZ I can't tank! What am I good for?! /cry"
Then eventually they'd find a slot in DD/Enfeebler or somesuch.
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Ok, Shopee, dipsh*t, so when it's gonna be that enough is enough, and FFXI becomes another mistake like SWG? Shove it up your *** with a fleuret.
What a strange person...
Shopee wrote:
But here's the deal:
Withing twenty four hours of the update you have created a preconceived notion that your job is ruined. Period. You refuse to give that idea up, and so spend your time on these forums expressing that idea. It is your right to do so, and I have not rated anyone in this thread down for expressing their opinions on the matter.
However, I am an optimist, and I think it's a complete and utter waste to create a vicious cycle of "it's ruined" thought that keeps you from putting the effort it takes to adapt.
You have not tried to adapt.
Why not? Roughly over a day is never enough time. That's hardly any effort, especially if you spend large amounts of time here and not on the game.
I'm not going to make you adapt, because if you already assume axiomatically that your job is ruined you won't even try.
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Because this automatically makes sure your assumption of the job being ruined becomes axiomatic truth. You are free to dismiss every person who disagrees, because Master says so, and gives what appears to be a good reason.
FYI I have 2 computers, and I am playing FFXI right now.
Thank you for calling me a complete moron, this is why I get so angry. As BSTs we are forced to learn the lvls of mobs in MANY zones and the dynamics of hate, to a crazy degree. WE KNOW OUR JOB. Do you really think noone is experimenting and sharing information?
We keep saying that if you've not played the job past 35, you don't know what you're talking about, because that is what you are showing us. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST "ADAPT TO." OUR JOB HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CHANGED. Why is that so hard to believe? The people you see so urgently and angrily raising hell about this, understand that shutting up and trying to adapt to a system they know damn well is not adaptable to (for good xp) unless they join (more like form, noone will invite) standard xp pts (NO THANKS even if I could, same for most other BST).
Please quit insulting the intelligence of tens upon hundreds of veteran players who have been royally screwed, and do what you can to help.
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What's a sock, I mean other than what you wear on your feet.
Seriously, I've never run into this one before.
Seriously, I've never run into this one before.
This is a guess, but I'm thinking he means you are a regular alla poster using a "puppet" account to avoid being karma bombed to hell for making such comments.
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This is a guess, but I'm thinking he means you are a regular alla poster using a "puppet" account to avoid being karma bombed to hell for making such comments.
Thanks (^_^).
Nope, I'm just new 'round these parts. Karma bomb me to hell if you so desire. I think what I think and have as much right to express it as anyone.
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Thank you for calling me a complete moron,
That really was not my intention. Honestly. If you're trying it you have all the more respect from me. It appears that you are still trying it.
I'm just sick of all this 'sky is falling' nonsense. You're still trying, and everyone else is screaming "ZOMG WHY PLAY ANYMORE! FAREWELL, CRUEL WORLD!"
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OUR JOB HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CHANGED. Why is that so hard to believe?
It isn't. Though, it is hard to take seriously within twenty for hours of the release when everyone is shouting it in tandem with "#$%^ SE YOU %&^*ING %&$&%#($*#" and that there's no point playing anymore.
There's a difference between it being completely changed and completely ruined.
And a difference between it being completely changed and completely changed permanently.
MARRY ME SPINSHARK!
Oh, if you don't trust SE with your gameplay experiance, why the hell are you trusting them with your money?
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I don't know how many will read this now....so many posts...
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Quote:So now they're expected to take WAR to 37, farm for Sniper Rings and still have enough money for Jug Pets, Pet Food, Silent Oil, Prism Powder and Sushi?
welcome to ninja, replacing jugs with inflated ninjutsu costs (hojo tools at 34k/stack? {Sweets})
Keep in mind, SE never intended for NIN to be a tank. You could be next and then be unable to do that job.
Remember that when you post that SE never intended BST to be solo.
Also, on a similar note, SE has acknowledged that we, the players, have changed the game. And they expected this...it's the true nature on an MMO. So what SE intended the job to be is irrelevant, because it's what we make of it that matters. And this nerf made BST almost, if not completely, unplayable.
Quote:
Quote:So now they're expected to take WAR to 37, farm for Sniper Rings and still have enough money for Jug Pets, Pet Food, Silent Oil, Prism Powder and Sushi?
welcome to ninja, replacing jugs with inflated ninjutsu costs (hojo tools at 34k/stack? {Sweets})
Keep in mind, SE never intended for NIN to be a tank. You could be next and then be unable to do that job.
Remember that when you post that SE never intended BST to be solo.
Also, on a similar note, SE has acknowledged that we, the players, have changed the game. And they expected this...it's the true nature on an MMO. So what SE intended the job to be is irrelevant, because it's what we make of it that matters. And this nerf made BST almost, if not completely, unplayable.
Hmmm,perhaps rdm was never meant to be a refresh *****,maybe they will nerf me into a front line melee mage ;-)
It's SE's fault for not being able to see what was people were going to do with the jobs when they were released. It's like they still dont realize there are people that will abuse things in the game to make it easier. Of course they cant have everything perfect right away but something like MPK by beastmasters should have been thought about when they started developing the job. If they were more careful people wouldnt be in this situation. Maybe these development guys are just pressed on deadlines by the company so they have to dish out something right away before they get fired.
This "nerf" is the mother of them all, it kills the versatility of the game. It's not just a simple nerf, this crippled the whole job. And I agree totally that this whole MPK issue is due to RMT in the game. Even with thread that Ahkore the SE representative , multiple people have suggested that it is due to the RMT that there is MPK. A lot of the MPK calls are made when real players are attacked by RMT. The RMT are the root to other problems in the game as well. While SE was concerned with MPK they never even suggested how the plague of RMT affected the game. It's like they are getting a cut of the profits from www.cannotlinkto. Maybe it's corruption that needs to be fixed.
This "nerf" is the mother of them all, it kills the versatility of the game. It's not just a simple nerf, this crippled the whole job. And I agree totally that this whole MPK issue is due to RMT in the game. Even with thread that Ahkore the SE representative , multiple people have suggested that it is due to the RMT that there is MPK. A lot of the MPK calls are made when real players are attacked by RMT. The RMT are the root to other problems in the game as well. While SE was concerned with MPK they never even suggested how the plague of RMT affected the game. It's like they are getting a cut of the profits from www.cannotlinkto. Maybe it's corruption that needs to be fixed.
Quinsisdos
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wrote:
Oh, if you don't trust SE with your gameplay experiance, why the hell are you trusting them with your money?
I don't think many people do anymore. You're assuming that people angry over the update will still play. I've seen many posts stating that their account will terminate by the end of the month. Others have simply stopped playing altogether before canceling their accounts to see if SE puts out a official statement.
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Oh CRAP, you don't want me in your slow-****** downtimed, die-on-the-way-to-camp, hours-lfg honor roll of an EXP party?
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join (more like form, noone will invite) standard xp pts (NO THANKS even if I could, same for most other BST).
While I agree that something needs to be done regarding Leave, attitudes like these directed at pretty much every other person who plays the game isn't going to help you work up much sympathy.
Taken from KI...
Lordwafik wrote:
Jugpets SUCK complete ***. They only good ones are the ones that are very expensive, I dont know why they even let us have the charm command anymore if they want us to be in parties with jugpets that are stupidly weak. Having regen doesnt solve a pet going poof matey. If any of them played beastmaster for a minute, they'd realize reward needs to be instant-cast if they want it to be worth a damn, not 3 mins on a jugpet.... a jugpet.. sigh.
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I guess maybe alot of these non-BST saying "just adapt" don't want to believe our job got ruined, so they can feel better telling us to shut up, but I've got news for you: our job is ruined, and we are NOT shutting up.
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