FFXI: A New Hope (editorial discussion thread)Follow

Cap raise means I might be able to experience "olde" content I couldn't before. Lowman Dynamis and sky are ideas I'm entertaining.

"But Fyn, lowman Dynamis and sky were already possible, you ******!"

Yeah maybe, but most people I know are already part of bigger endgame groups that do this stuff, and the ones that aren't are generally not people I could form coherent lowman groups with. I am also not the kind of person that is gonna blow 500k on an hourglass so that I can go in by myself and zombie-Bio one mob to death and pray that I get lucky.

With us at 99, the potential for this would increase greatly for someone like me... assuming Dynamis doesn't get raised difficulty or a 75-cap slapped on it, anyway.

So yeah, for someone like me, I see this as a good thing.

I really wanted to see more of Vana'diel..It really seems Aht Urhgan is the last place we're getting. :/

Unless SE is adding a better way to get XP (ie missions/quests with higher XP), I won't be getting excited about the new level cap. No matter how great the rewards are, the thought of XP grinding off mobs through another 24 levels = No Thanks!

Mmmm, no, I don't think it will. Even people I know that have done sky for a while still don't have all the stuff from sky that they want. Also the stuff I'm thinking about is still not exactly going to be soloable, just more easily lowmanned.

I currently can't do many activities that involve an alliance.



Juggler Hecatomb is a worthless NM. Not really comparable.

Edited, Mar 17th 2010 1:45am by Fynlar

Like ODS, only solo your own Ark Angel.

I don't know how else to put this too you, but Kirin is a gigantic wuss. The only thing sky gods really have going for them is 17 levels of correction. They're not actually particularly defensive or powerful or tricky, at lv99 it should be a complete cakewalk to slaughter them. Going from an entire alliance of people wanting various stuff to 1 person should make grabbing those last couple of gear pieces a week's project(more or less depending on how much you can play, how much you want, NM competition, luck), and that's assuming you even care about those pieces with the possibile new gear.

That's nice of you to say that, but the fact is that currently, I would have no way of feasibly beating Kirin unless I got a pickup to try it. And @#%^ pickups with a stick. Not only do I not expect one to be competent enough to win, I know that I'd be dealing with a ton of competition for the one drop I care for, which is the speedy pants abjuration.



Actually, from what I hear from people in sky shells who still want this stuff, the problem with them isn't always competition, it's just that it never seems to drop. I know sky shells that have gone for months at a time without seeing Kirin drop Wlegs at all. Also, I'm not the only person among my friends that want it.

I think "week's project" is awfully optimistic of you, but then again, you kinda overestimated my ability to get a Kirin fight done too, so it's quite possible that these are related.



I never worry about new gear obsoleting old gear, because I never make the assumption that I'll be able to acquire it in the first place. If you didn't get the message already, I'm not a big endgamer.

Edited, Mar 18th 2010 3:47pm by Fynlar

Ones that will make a coherent, capable group for fighting Kirin that will all be available at the same time? Nope.

Also, I would have a very hard time even convincing most of them to try Kirin with a group that small, when many of them have done Kirin with a sky shell (presumably a much larger group than what I'd be able to scrape together) and still managed to either wipe or have marathon 2~ hour Kirin sessions on occasion.

1) I don't know of anyone that openly sells them, and I don't feel like sitting in Kirin's room for years and begging for groups to sell them, because I'm assuming that most shells fighting Kirin probably still have people who want the abjuration

2) I don't exactly have a Cursed Mitts -1 fund. It's more of a "Hope some guy is quitting and bazaaring them for 1g because I sure as **** will never afford their standard price" fund.

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You do realize I'm talking about when they increase the player level cap to 99 right? Is there a reason isn't sinking in? It's what the thread is about, so you'd think it would be obvious. You're not going to need pickups, you're not going to need a shell, you're not even going to need friends to clear sky.
It's a ~30% drop, if said sky shell is only doing 1-3 Kirins a month, it's completely reasonable to not get a drop every month. However when you can solo everything (or just buy triggers) it's much faster and it's completely reasonable one person (by themselves, aka no waiting for people to gather, no worrying about idiots getting aggro, probably no aggro at all at that level, etcetc) to be able to knock out several Kirin's a week if they choose. Split trigger gathering duties with people you're not in competition for gear with and it goes even faster.

Edited, Mar 18th 2010 4:57pm by shintasama

Yeah, I do. Why do you think I'm in support of the cap raise?

I don't get why you're trying so hard to convince me that suddenly becoming able to do something I am currently not able to do is going to suck somehow. Maybe it'll suck for you since you're Superman and can already get everything done by yourself, but you need to learn something that Rog has a hard time realizing himself -- not everyone is in the same boat.

By the way, unless they really break the game in ways beyond merely increasing the level cap, Kirin still won't be soloable at 99.




I'm not a fan of fishing for right to lot on rare/ex in that fashion. Not to mention the fact that I can't even afford the average price it's going for, nor can I be ***** to farm it unless I know I would be able to get the abjuration right away, which is never a sure thing. Not to mention I already got 8% speed pants from ASA anyway so meh.

Edited, Mar 18th 2010 5:27pm by Fynlar

MG isn't even going to be aggro EP though, it's 16 levels under you at that point, slaves are pets and as such have tiny amounts of hp and should be an easy 1-shot from any decent AOE. At most Kirin would take 2, 1 to kill him and 1 to hold/kill summons (they have low hp too). It's like saying it's ohhh sooo hard to kill a couple Antican Signifiers as a 75, hell, it's going to be easier to do sky as a 99 than soloing QSC mobs as a 75 because 1)The most powerful thing is sky will only be ep, and 2)Sky mobs have trash stats that are made up for with massive amounts of level correction vs 75s unlike QSC where mobs are appropriately designed. Take away the level correction (and put it in your favor) and suddenly sky is pathetic.


It's going to suck because suddenly there will be absolutely nothing to do. I already covered that.

Edited, Mar 18th 2010 5:29pm by shintasama